SHARK C

The steering wheel feels a bit off centered. The car feels amazing, it's nice to see a chevette in the game

Quote from takashi_fujimoto :

The steering wheel feels a bit off centered. The car feels amazing, it's nice to see a chevette in the game

thanks, when i get back on the computer i will check this, i also ended up forgetting to put the stabilizer bars in this first version.

Opel Kadett C. Nice to have after so many mods these days are just packed with horses.

Shouldn't the rear number plate should be yellow like the standard LFS cars?

Quote from PeterN :

Shouldn't the rear number plate should be yellow like the standard LFS cars?

I did this to look like the new plates in Brazil, which are also white.

Possible to have a version who is matched with XFG and XRG ??

Quote from PeterN :

Shouldn't the rear number plate should be yellow like the standard LFS cars?

No.

Quote from rog_nilsson :

Possible to have a version who is matched with XFG and XRG ??

I still intend to update some things in this base version, when I think it's good I'll make a version 2 more versions, one just more powerful and one for drift.

Epic mod so far!

Attached a simple skin template made for this car!

And a first skin with it:

Quote from rockclan :

Epic mod so far!

Attached a simple skin template made for this car!

And a first skin with it:

I updated the car, put a default skin, later put the wireframe here to help with the skins.

this car is cool, but it need perhaps a Racing version with a little more power.
i would be really happy to race this car in the best online racing simulation ever

Just tried this 1st time this eve. Great work. Not far off official car quality.

Thanks!

DL link?

Quote from Rocket455Man :

DL link?

Open LFS, go to Garage - Mods, select SHARK C and there you go

Here's some media from yesterday's race featuring this car - 40 cars were standing on grid.








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With low power and simple handling this car is well suited for mass pack racing,Aston/Kyoto might result in more side-by-side action. Being slower than slowest LFS standard car UF1,it's well suited as beginners racing car to learn basic handling of rear wheel drive car.

Model still have some downsides though (besides the disapearing front wheels bug - note about this car is at the bottom of post) - the biggest is visible with bright colors,where the empty engine bay shines through front openings,while another minor thing is noticable when closing up to door gaps - inconsistency which part is skinned and which not. Also the skin mapping is a bit difficult to understand - a proper kit might solve that.

I was watching the race on Sim Broadcasts yesterday and really got eager to try this car. I was a bit hesitant at first when I heard about the car (before watching the race) but watching this car go around and now having tried it myself, I’m completely hooked on it It’s very fun to drive, pretty stable but when the rear does step out, it’s easy to catch again

I also made a simple skin for it “NASCAR inspired” with the big numbers on the sides and roof to give it a bit of a historical look.

The COG of the car is way too low, it's closer to formula cars than real life road cars. Also suspension is a bit off. It also still has the bug with the disappearing front tyres.

Quote from fatalunfair :

The COG of the car is way too low, it's closer to formula cars than real life road cars. Also suspension is a bit off. It also still has the bug with the disappearing front tyres.

I'm going to check if I can find the actual center of gravity data to make some adjustments, and the front suspension issue I still haven't found a way to fix.

Quote from fatalunfair :

The COG of the car is way too low, it's closer to formula cars than real life road cars. Also suspension is a bit off. It also still has the bug with the disappearing front tyres.

I tried to fix these things, then test the newer version to see if it improved.

About the suspension bug, I agree that LFS shouldn't allow this to happen, but I think it is caused by faulty suspension geometry.

This front double wishbone suspension is taller on the inner points than the outer points, so when the suspension is compressed, it gets more positive camber. It's the opposite of what double wishbone suspension should do. When double wishbone suspension is compressed, camber should become more negative. The effect is to keep the wheel more vertical when the car leans.

To fix this, the upper pivot and lower pivot should have less distance between them, compared with the corresponding points on the object that the wheel is connected to. Please tell me if my explanation doesn't make sense.

I was trying for a short while to find if this car really has such advanced suspension anyway, but can't find an answer so far. I believe Macpherson strut is more common (cheaper / more compact). But that is not to say that this car shouldn't have double wishbone - I just couldn't find it.

Quote from Scawen :

I was trying for a short while to find if this car really has such advanced suspension anyway, but can't find an answer so far. I believe Macpherson strut is more common (cheaper / more compact). But that is not to say that this car shouldn't have double wishbone - I just couldn't find it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOOrX08fmEA

Here's a disassembling video of a C Kadett front suspension (this is the same car as chevrolet chevette of same era)

In fact i can also claim even the RWD Ladas have a double wishbone front suspension setup, i can tell from experience as i changed the front axle beam for a car i used to own


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As for the mod itself, i can't say i like this too much. We raced this thing in the RTFR season opener, and the whole day i had a feeling that the car isn't as manoveurable as it should be. Hitting the kerbs in Rockingham felt like there was a collision box in front of the tyre, plus steering the car around felt like there was 2 tons of excessive weight on top of the 888 kilos that it should weigh. It's an iconic car to us europeans too, so it would be great to see this thing in it's proper condition. Model itself is great apart from problems already mentioned, altough you should really consider changing the real life brands with something inspirational or existing LFS "fake" sponsors.

Thanks for the image and video, that seems like proof!

I wish I could see a direct front view of the wishbones and attachment points. I can't see anything there that supports my assertion about the geometry.

The updated Shark doesn't seem to have vanishing wheels, but the wheels still lean out (more positive camber) as the car is pressed lower - that seems wrong to me but I would be interested to be proved wrong.

This is the suspension view, I just checked some things to fix in Shark C, the suspension at default height seems to be a little high, I will fix this and update soon.

I made a few more adjustments, I'll wait for the staff's assessment to find out if I should modify more or the suspension is now good.

Car without ABS. YeeeBooooyyyy

Good that you could find that drawing to help update the suspension. I had a quick look and as the suspension bug seems to have gone and the centre of mass is at a reasonable height, I've re-approved the mod.

Thanks!

Nice model, but it's really annoying that I cannot properly skin the front edge nor the rear edge, like putting a car emblem there, because the mapping is coming from the top

Quote from chucknorris :

Nice model, but it's really annoying that I cannot properly skin the front edge nor the rear edge, like putting a car emblem there, because the mapping is coming from the top

Thanks for reporting this, I'll fix it soon, I didn't notice this issue before posting.

Faz uma versao com kit padaria, eles adicionarao o seu carro na concesionaria do TC. so um cenzin de roda com 0.5kg kkkkkkkk

Quote from [OD :

Jardim;1983511"]Faz uma versao com kit padaria, eles adicionarao o seu carro na concesionaria do TC. so um cenzin de roda com 0.5kg kkkkkkkk

Vou fazer, quero corrigir todos os bugs primeiro, quando estiver bom eu faço uma versão modificada, eu quero fazer uma versão com um C20xe aspirado para trackday e uma versão de drift com AP Turbo

BLZ Brother, cant wait

Quote from [OD :

Jardim;1985631"]BLZ Brother, cant wait

Eu postei uma versão com motor K20 de civic, porém está bem pesado por causa do regulamento, achei alguns bugs no mapeamento quando fui fazer ele, mais tarde eu tento corrigir nesse original tbm.

Hi, first of all, great job!
and now my little problem when making a skin. The 2 areas indicated in the front and rear of the car concur in a single area in the skin file. I would like to use two different colours for each area, but I think it isn't posible for this issue.


P.D. Sorry for my english

Quote from mitsumeku :

Hi, first of all, great job!
and now my little problem when making a skin. The 2 areas indicated in the front and rear of the car concur in a single area in the skin file. I would like to use two different colours for each area, but I think it isn't posible for this issue.


P.D. Sorry for my english

Thanks for reminding me of that, I fixed it in the GM_SST version and forgot to modify this one too, as soon as it's on my computer I'll try to update.

oops, I find another. Thanks!

Quote from mitsumeku :

oops, I find another. Thanks!

the problem is in the trunk lid and hood, I did the mapping and then added a few more pieces, they ended up being out of the correct place in the mapping.

I posted the update with the correct mapping, then check if it was good.

thank you very much!

Hi, maybe add windows for the doors?

hello, we plan an Enduro event with Shark C group 2

great fun
but unfortunaly, the lod is poor
see the picture below :

Could you fix it please ? it will be great ! the event is standing in few days (see poster joined)

thanks a lot !