Quote from Takumi_lfs :

He just reads what he actually wanted to read.

his eyes are lying to him

I know and besides that, you tell one guy whats going on and then some posts later you see the same stuff again. I think threads like this or this VW Scirocco release plan should be published in "locked status" from the beginning since they are bound to get spammed.

Quote from VTiRacing :

Can i send hotlap with this patch to LFSWORLD.NET ?
With Z4 Test patch i cant do it.

Nope.

Quote from wartek :

oh, it is almost done, it works, be a santa clause
give it without traction control, as a test patch unofficial
we will find some bugs and then final patch will be better

Quote from Scawen :

We are confident that we can fix all the issues and make the car a really good one to drive in the near future, but as various things that need to be done will take an unknown amount of time, we had to make the decision to postpone the release until next year, rather than release something in a rush that is really not as good as it can be.

/leaves this thread silently, this is pointless.

:feedtroll

Quote from Gil07 :

Even though we have to wait a bit longer now, this sounds good I like the limited setup options! Take your time



Hmm, does this mean LFS will have the multilink rear suspension? Or am I reading to much into that ^?

I guess so but i certainly dont hope so

Quote from Bean0 :

So what is the crack with regards to Test Patches ?

If Z is going to be 'current' for a whie yet, should we all revert back to the older .EXE ?

Quote from Scawen :

...Although the list of changes is short, there are a lot of internal changes and optimisations.
So you should probably keep a backup of your LFS.exe from version Z...

Good luck with everything you want to archive, fix, alter ect. Im sure most of us will appreciate the hard work even more of you guys once its finished.

Quote from Scawen :

No, I think you are trying to read too much into what I said. I only made a vague statement because I do not know when or if Z3 / Z4 / Z5 hotlaps will be uploadable. For example, if the ABS implementation changes, then hotlaps with test patches up to that point would never be uploadable. We expect to make hotlaps uploadable when we have a version that is stable and we are happy with.

Oh ok so just like you're always doing it (just too bad i have forgotten about that while starting to hotlap :doh. Just wanted to be sure. Besides that, i did a hotlap with an FZR which is not affected by the ABS afaik. Would it be possible in any way to only exclude those cars affected by ABS? :bowdown:

(or am i missing something else here?)

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Quote from Scawen :

ABS brakes have been added to 6 cars (as a setup option) so for now you cannot upload hotlaps made in Z5.

So if i understand you correctly, once the patch is completed we are able to upload hotlaps again (even hotlaps done with version Z5)?

What are those numbers anyway lerts? Blunts, grams, ounce, heads?

Quote from _Mateusz_ :

I have found small bug in LX4, im have patch Z5

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1005619#post1005619

Already been reported.

I dont know your medical condition but i guess your making this up just to have an excuse . Seriously and as i said already, perhaps you should consider not stopping radically from one day to another but reduce the amount for days and weeks and then stop when you think you are in control of your eating behaviour again.

Edit: what about this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_America

I know im not spain but i was just curious and did a little research.

Quote from lerts :

actually cannabis is very addictive
5 or 6 a day wont get you hooked but 25 as i did will, now im on 12 a day and cant quit
if stop smoking i can be days without eating at all sleeping bad and very depressed
in fact im adicted to the subsatnce not the efects, due to tolerance it has no effect at all on me
but if i quitted 2 days i would feel the effect back but im so hooked i cant even quit 2 days
so tell me ive been smoking for 20 years cannabis is not addictive, ill laugh

Youre addicted to your habbits and your normal daylife which includes the consumtion of it. Try to use less each day and week and soon you'll be able to stop smoking at all. Thats the easiest way and if you dont manage that then its simple down to self control or the lack of it. No one said its easy but i and many other will tell you that its not impossible.

cheers Scawen. You're on fire dude

Quote from mrodgers :

There are many VERY experienced marijuana users and ex-marijuana users in this thread that have first hand experience. I would venture a guess that there is no one in this thread who was as heavy of a user as I was in my younger days.

I smoked pot from 1987 (15 years old) until 1996 (24 years old, when I got married). I was an what I would call an extreme heavy user of maybe an ounce per week. I was getting married and decided it was time to quit. I smoked the last of what I had and quit. No addiction. The only addiction that marijuana has brought to me is my love for the music of Pink Floyd. If I don't get to listen to Pink Floyd on a good sound system every once in a while, I will go nuts!

What an coincidence (somehow) . I was smoking from 1996 (14 years old) - 2006 (24 not married yet lol, just partly forced to and partly bored) and i was a rather heavy user of maybe half an ounce (one ounce really is far too extreme lol) (if ever, reduced it to just a few grams a week for the last years). It was a bit hard in the beginning every now and then but thats only down to some old habbits, where i used to smoke to some occasions or so. Just like having a fag after a good meal i used to sm0ke while hanging out with my buddies, to go and play online or sit back and watch a movie or something. But yeah, i got used to it rather quickly actually.

Quote from BlueFlame :

Well, S14, Since the thread was created by a drug user and the rest of the posts are by drug users, I think this thread (for us) has run its course. We aren't gonna get through to these people. Especially not ones called 510N3D.

I guess you dont. At least not with sheer ignorance or some superficial knowledge. You should at least read whats been writen and most importantly, educate yourself before you make a comment yourself. I said numorous times that i respect you guys for not doing any drugs and strangely im still getting the whole nine yards. So why dont you show some respect and stay out of this thread? Oh and for the record, im not smoking no more for a loooong time (and no i dont do the other stuff either). Unfortunately i cant change my name no more. But as long as its only confusing people like you i can live with that.

Quote from BAMBO :

-snip- and for me they are bad as marijuana or as cannabis but if I where to put them on a scale I would put marijuana, cannabis, etc. higher on the scale then alcohol and nicotine. Narrow minded? -snip-

While your intentions are honorable in that respect the context & content of your arguments are just wrong and due to a lack of proper informations you are indeed rather narrow minded.

Quote from BAMBO :

Now if you still feel the need to insult me or to contradict me then I politely ask you to refrain from doing that.

Please show me exactly where i was insulting you.

Quote from BAMBO :

So let me resume what I said. Everyone has a different opinion on the subject, some like it, some don't and it's pretty oblivious we are not getting anywhere.

Not with this kind of attitude, i agree.

Quote from BAMBO :

says the man blind enough to only see half of my post and not fully comprehend what I was trying to say

You see, i do try to comprehend but seriously, there's just half of it really worth understanding while the rest ...well... is nonsense.

Quote from BAMBO :

That was the worst case scenario and I believe that a few could actually get to that stage. You simply can't know how far an addict can go. I rephrased it and if you still think it's wrong then I will keep my mouth shut and just watch this pointless debate.

But you do know correct? Because you've got first hand experiences right? I mean excluding alcohol and nicotin just because they're legal really shows how narrow minded you are. So let me rephrase this: Whoever told you that you've got a clue or put you in charge here should be slapped in the face (just a little, we dont really want to hurt anybody) and locked up in the cellar for the rest of the day.

Bambo, i strongly suggest you to leave this thread right now. At least until you know what the heck you're talking about. Robbing & killing...:doh:

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Negative camber will increase grip, and positive camber will decrease grip, however this can affect tyre wear and top speed slightly.

Its the exact opposite, if ever. Actually, its not just something you'll play around with. It needs to be balanced (considering the wheel drive, engine position & centre of gravity, total car weight ect.) as well as optimised (direction of most of the turns at a track while also considering the angle, length, steepness and altitude variance of each turn, race length & fuel strategy). Camber is, at least according to my observations, besides tire pressure, suspension settings and aerodynamics, one of the most important values to keep the tempratures at a moderate level, especially in the long run.

Quote from 510N3D :

So what does that mean? Well, ultimately that we are still living in the stone age. The definitions of legality & illegality had been specified at about 40- 50 years (give or take 10- 20 years) at each country and yet even with all the evidence available we still fail to face the facts and alter the legal situation accordingly. Why is that? Well, my guess is that its plain & simple just about money.

In addition to that, the main pupose of hemp is indeed not just for smoking. Ever thought about what the medicine, oil and perhaps even the clothing industries would do if hemp would be legalized? Because after all, its been proven many times that this plant can be a replacement for many drugs (medicines) as well as it is possible to make clothing out of it with a much higher quality then almost any other biological or synthetical material could ever provide. Its also possible to make biofuel out of it. This plant could change the world and especially the global market forever. The only problem is that its much cheaper (oil industry) and much more effective & efficient (medicine & clothing industry) especially in the long run. Thats why the global acceptence of this plant is still overshadowed by the (supposedly) negative effects and i guess that most of the "contra reseaches" where funded by goverments or industries.

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Quote from S14 DRIFT :

I think the ignorance is that drug users can only come back and say "WELL YOU DRINK/SMOKE TOO". So what? We're allowed, probbably because the effects of both are well known and documented, so that a drinker/smoker knows full well what will happen to them, where as someone who smokes the occasional/regular joint does not. Could make them Jesus, or it could kill them on their first few puffs - You never know..

Well and you think that after about more then 4700 years of usage, mostly for medical matter, we dont know what it does?

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

As am I, however there plenty of times there are drug offenders that do cause trouble, not neccisarly actively, but passively. Besides, not sure about other countries, but I've watched enough of those "Cop" shows based in Britain that even our own police force do not take the issue seriously. There was one person who was a known Marijuana user, who was pulled over on a traffic offense. He was found to have Marijuana on him and admited he'd smoked some that very evening. What did the police do? THEY LET THE LITTLE SHIT WALK FREE WITH NOTHING BUT A WARNING. And that's what angers me.

It seems the only source for you to get informations is the TV. Ever tried reading a book or using the internet? :doh:

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

I'm all for people doing exactly what they want, however when I say "meh that's bad you shouldn't blah blah", they're like "WELL YOU DRINK SO IT'S WORSE THAN ME BLAH BLAH", completly IGNORING the fact that what I do is legal, where as they're doing is NOT. You can call that blind ignorance, but I call that being a generally law abiding citizen. (Not that I'm perfect, but doing drugs is not a "minor slip up" tbh) Hell, I call it ignorance on the drug users behalf. They're so ignorant to the risks involved with their drug habits, and how illegal it is, that they find any excuse to turn it around.

What you dont seem to get is the fact that alcohol is killing more people then marihuana ever could be. There are hundreds of alcohol overdose deaths each year, yet there has never been a marijuana overdose death in history. There has never been a documented case of lung cancer in a marijuana-only smoker, and recent studies find that marijuana use is not associated with any type of cancer. Alcohol is one of the most toxic drugs, and using just 10 times what one would use to get the desired effect can lead to death. Marijuana is one of – if not the – least toxic drugs, requiring thousands times the dose one would use to get the desired effect to lead to death. This “thousands times” is actually theoretical, since there has never been a recorded case of marijuana overdose.

So what does that mean? Well, ultimately that we are still living in the stone age. The definitions of legality & illegality had been specified at about 40- 50 years (give or take 10- 20 years) at each country and yet even with all the evidence available we still fail to face the facts and alter the legal situation accordingly. Why is that? Well, my guess is that its plain & simple just about money.

Quote from BlueFlame :

I can. They are all illegal.
Which one of these drugs would you give to a child? None.

Dude, you're messed up royally. Think before you post. :doh:

or try this