Quote from SouvlakiTheBest :

@510N3D Got a prob from where I am?

Not really, I was just referring to all the headlines about your country and all the strikes and riots that are going on in your country nowadays, meaning that I kind of understand your anger, in a way...sort of...

But seriously, you gotta learn to chill yo.

Last edited by 510N3D, Sat, 6 Mar 2010 19:32.

I think he is still pretty calm, considering he is from greece though.

Quote from Shotglass :

necessary? is it necessary for me to drink my own urine?

Yes.

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Wu-Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M. (Feat. Tupac) [DJTL 2009 EXCLUSIVE]

ect...

Shemale my "ass" (yo), "it's" friggin hot (meh)!!

This is fun

Too bad I gotta go shopping now.

http://www.verbatim.jp/senshuken/?replay=6943261

http://www.verbatim.jp/senshuken/?id=1170762

Quote from anbiddulph :

tip for people, fight the top monsters, you get loads of GB and they are pretty week 0.o

Yeah, took me a bit to figure that out, wasted a lot of time with random fights in the beginning. ^^

Quote from Shotglass :

ah that must be why i get paid for thinking practically

Right, this still doesn't devitalise my observation.

Quote from Shotglass :

yeah you do
the typical apple esque featureless body doesnt help much in this regard either

Says who? The manual for gross motor skills?

Quote from Shotglass :

a touch screen is a neat thing to have in addition to a mouse/trackpad but there are very good reasons why no company ever has managed to make a device like the ipad successful and its not because they arent apple

And they, whoever really attemted to build one, only failed because of the lack of acceptance for such a product rather then the creation & realisation of it (specifications, usability ect.) ? Would be nice if you could show me some of the predecessors there are.

Quote from Shotglass :

it just isnt theres so many scenarios is which a mouse is the better choice the most important one being anything where a touch screen requires you to hold up your arm and point at it all the time

...

as i was saying theres something to be said about a device that has both on board but just the screen alone will severely cripple you ability to use the device

While I do agree that both ways together would make it even better than just of it, you'd had to be a total idiot in order to mutilate yourself while using a touch screen.

Quote from Shotglass :

ill quote jerry holkins on this one
"That iPad presentation had to be the worst thing I've even seen on on the Apple stage. There is a part where they - I am not making a joke - there is a part where they try to make creating spreadsheets seem awesome."
point is theres nothing special that the ipad is able to do and that you cant do on eg a netbook and most importantly a netbook will allow you to do it all at the same time

Just like you, he most likely don't get it because he didn't liked it in the first place.

Quote from Shotglass :

well maybe but not uncomfortably so

Maybe not for you, but certainly for me.

Quote from Shotglass :

i rather doubt that

And you're entitled to have this kind of opinion, just don't pretent that you're able to know the results just by looking at other products from the same company, it just doesn't make sense whatsoever.

Quote from Shotglass :

yeah obviously comparing device that are basically just larger and smaller versions of each other is not at all logical or viable or anything

"Basically", apples and oranges could be compared to some extent, but whilst looking at the details, they are not the same anymore either.

Quote from Shotglass :

certainly not
atm you can buy a ssd with more capacity than the largest ipad and which i can almost guarantee is faster than the ssd in the ipad and it costs less than the difference between the 16 and 64 gig versions

Perhaps you're right, I just couldn't be arsed to do some research on this one yet. But without the 16 GB, it would be 399$, and I'm rather curious as how much of that would be left once you'd take the iPad apart and calculate all the parts together, in order to justify the "rip off statement" some people have raised.

Last edited by 510N3D, Sat, 30 Jan 2010 22:14.

Takumi is the man of the day!

Good luck for those who ain't got no key yet!!

As for the game itself, it's damn awsome, just wish my pc was a bit quicker!!! ^^

Quote from Takumi_lfs :

Quick, try one of them!

cheers buddy, friggin works man!! I owe you one.

"9t7d-cmw7-tw6j-f9zp" is mine now

That means you are willing to give some away? Or why are you telling us this? I can't connect to the sites once they should have more keys available and I won't buy something I haven't even been able to play yet.

Quote from Takumi_lfs :

got a key!

wtf?

Quote from Shotglass :

seen those before cant picture anyone carrying the keyboard one (the only one thats practical) around all the time
plus it hasnt got a mouse so you still have to hold your arm up all the time which is almost as uncomfortable as holding 700g up all the time and incidentally the reason why touchscreens on desktop pcs all failed to sell

This is a very poor attempt of covering up your personal inability to be or think practical. You don't have to hold it all day long nor do you have to put it into such an uncomfortable position that it will break your wrists after a few minutes or so. The reason it has no mouse is because it has a touch screen, and the reason for that is simple to be much more independent in terms of usage mostly.

Also you could think of it this way, a mouse has always had been a replacement for something like a touch screen. Surely, there are many things that can be done way quicker or easier with a mouse, but the same applies to the touch screen, whilst this method of interaction is still far more practical and more efficient for most situations, at least it would be for me though.

Quote from Shotglass :

great... btw ever heard of netvertibles or convertible notebooks? the do everything the ipad does better and guess what they come with 2 very clever objects built in called a hinge and a keyboard which accomplish just that

"Everything" is so inappropriate in this regard (especially considering the time you've spent on this device altogether), and well, that does not changes the fact that they are much heavier and much bigger than the iPad is. Not sure about the battery duration, but I'm assuming that the iPad will beat most of them in this area as well, mostly because it has an accumulator from a laptop (afaik), a smaller screen... et cetera.

Quote from Shotglass :

good luck trying to find an iphone that comes anywhere close to the running time jobs stated in its presentation

Comparing apples and oranges huh?

Quote from Shotglass :

not as such but i can give you plenty of examples of mobile products both from apple and other companies that require some sort of ridiculous impractical usage scenario to get anywhere close to their stated battery life

So you obviously can't disprove it yet. Time will tell, as they say.

Quote from Shotglass :

its a meaningful example of how even the most rosy tinted spectacles of all the rose tinted ones are no match for the amazing uselessness of the ipad

Quote from 510N3D :

If you don't want it nor need it, and again, if it doesn't fit your needs, don't buy it, simple as that.

Mumbling about it cannot change the fact that you're having a lot of preconceptions, for some obvious and correct reasons perhaps, but even more for many uncalled for reasons mostly.

Personally, I will wait until it is in fact available over here in europe (together with a proper internet deal), and hopefully won't be as costy anymore by then, though SSD flash drives are the main reason for this (afaik).

Quote from Shotglass :

the simple fact that there is no other way of using it maybe? your sitting at a desk or at least in an upright chair so theres no way of resting it on your thighs and playing it down on the desk and looking down for several hours will quickly become rather uncomfortable
the only way to use such a device comfortable for hours is when youre lying on the sofa

See, you don't know what you're talking about.



Even without anything, one could still take just two objects, one to lean against and perhaps another on to prevent it from sliding away.

Quote from Shotglass :

they say it will run for up to 10 hours which is one of the most meaningless marketing expressions common in mobile devices

Well, I don't know if it will or not will last that long. Matter of fact is that firstly, it would by stupid to make such a statement in the first place when it's infact not even doing eight or even less hours straight, and secondly it is a waste of time to keep on arguing about it when neither of us can disprove the other one, would you agree? Or can you actually disprove this statement yet?

Quote from Shotglass :

you do realise that even peolpe who think apple can do no wrong are throughly underwhelmed by the thing because it just simply isnt very good at anything?

Now this is infact a meaningless expression and proves just how much interest you have in a proper discussion about it. If you don't want it nor need it, and again, if it doesn't fit your needs, don't buy it, simple as that. I don't give a damn about what other people think about it, and once again, I'm thinking about getting one, and it would be the first Apple product for me, ever. So much for the fanboyism in this regard, just in case you're running out of ideas and decide to switch to that level.

Quote from Shotglass :

clearly youve never held anything up in the same position without movement for any prolonged amount of time

Clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about. Besides, who says that I have to sit there and hold it, for so long in the first place anyway?

Quote from Shotglass :

neither is the ipad

When they say it will run about ten hours straight, independent of what you're doing, it will most likely work that way. Who are you to say otherwise, if you haven't even tried it yet?

Quote from Shotglass :

in other words they are better and more useable

That depends on the priorities each and everyone has, something that differs to one another and which you obviously haven't figured out yet.

Quote from Shotglass :

try holding 700g up in front of your face for 4 hours straight
then think again if the thing is suitable for that sort of use

Yeah 700g, that is pretty heavy, for an infant perhaps.

Quote from Shotglass :

im not sure what rock youve been under the past year or two but nowerdays 10h isnt anything particularly special anymore
http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3693&p=6
and that 1005pe is a ~300€ device that does everything better except for the screen

Besides the fact that I've said "afaik", which should imply that I haven't been quite sure about that statement though, the charts of that website and common sense are telling me that laptops are still not capable of doing 10 hours straight, at least not when it comes down to heavy usage, like playing games or watching high definition videos. They usually have much bigger screens and actually a totally different hardware structure than the iPad...

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http://www.i3d.net/bf-bc2-beta-keys-signup.php Ahem, for all you peeps who haven't preordered.... more codes should be there at 7PM GMT.... That page should show a form to fill.

Cheers mate.

Spitfire, Mustang P51 and this one of course ^^

Quote from hazaky :

Boing 747 also looks pretty impressive, but I prefer smaller airplanes though.

Quote from John5200 :

daaaaaaaamn and i want one so hardly

Same here, guess I've been far too late in order to get one just in time.

found by accident, pretty cool me thinkz.

Quote from Crashgate3 :

Divide by zero error.

Devide the sum of the devision of zero, by zero.

It's about fitting the needs, not for everybody on the entire planet but for those who just need what it offers. You almost act like you have to buy it. You don't like it and it doesn't fit your needs? That's fine. You're not the only person on this planet nor is your lifestyle (or set of preferences) compareable, or a "doozy" for everybody else to strive for, is it?

Quote from Becky Rose :

As for the iPad, this first generation one is not going to last long - it's clearly a market tester - it's missing features that other iProducts have such as the mic & video camera, if the market accepts the product then a new version will come out with those things - I suspect they've capped the R&D costs until they're sure the market will take it.

And that's a killer question. Apple are really trying their luck with this one and testing the feilty of their die hard Macophiles. The iPod was great, the iPhone was great, the iPod Touch was reasonable, but this revamped Apple Newton is the biggest risk to Apple's health since Isaac Newton fired an arrow at an one (see what I did there? Oh yeah, I has it...).

Thanks to becky, this is also exactly the way I see it. I don't think it really is perfect at all yet but still, it is undeniable something new and innovative in many aspects already.

Last edited by 510N3D, Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:48. Reason : additional clarification

Quote from danowat :

It'll be ridiculously overpriced, light on features and sell MASSIVELY.

Just like every other Apple piece of crap.

Bullshit. Have you had a view at what the costs really are, not only for the development process but also for the material and such? I don't, but I believe it's not a rip off at all but quite the contrary.





Personally, I don't have a single product from apple yet, although I do find some are quite innovative and useful due to the pure simplicity, focused not only on the design but also on the way they try to reinvent common and known ways of doing things. Whats wrong with thinking differently, creating something new or round off something to make it even better?

Now, in the past, I've been traveling a lot by train and there are always these kind of people that are using almost the entire table for their friggin laptops. I've got one as well, but in my eyes, it's just way to impractical, space & time consuming to build everything up and such.

This thing would be perfect for these kind of situations I believe. Not too massively built, got all the stuff I need for a trip by train, bus or air plane and the battery life is amazing as well, considering that most laptops won't even last half as long, afaik.

What's the point of it? Well, let me try and make an educated guess. It's called progress, right? People had also raised that kind of question once the wheel has been announced, or the cell phone, the car, train, air plane...you name it. If it would be for some of the people in here, we would be still sitting in our caves waiting for our boring lifes to end real soon, yay...

1. You need to upload a replay created in the hotlap mode within LFS in order to gain a WR or to participate in the "hotlap charts".

2. the "WR diff." in the "pb charts" only means the difference in time between your PB and the official WR.

3. PB's are created online, HL's or WR's are created offline, only.