Quote from TV[cz :

Every passive adult Russian citizen is co-responsible for war crimes unleashed by their leader, mentally ill Putin in Ukraine. And have blood on their hands. They let the evil to rise and grow for 20 years, not taking action against. Russians, you are delussioned, in denial. Similar as Germans civilists were in denial of concentration camps existence until were taken to see on their own eyes. Then the reality hit them. Too late. In this very moment, Putin destroys your future and our future too.

C'mon Russians, you can still do it, stop genocide

I understand that you are emotional. As we all. We all don't want this to continue. But you do the same thing as Putin when you call what is happening a "genocide". People were killed in Ukraine for 8 years and before that in the LPR and DPR regions where Russians live. Putin called it "genocide" and sent troops into Ukraine. And some people living in LPR and DPR justify it.

You live in the Czech Republic (as I understand it) and tell us what to do. But I don't think you understand the current situation. Russia is not the Czech Republic. Russia is not Germany or France. In Russia, the number of law enforcement agencies per capita is the highest in the world. Russia is an authoritarian police state ruled by a dictator. There are no free rallies. Rallies must be coordinated with the state. They are coordinated far from the city center. If people go to rallies without the consent of the state, they are loaded into police vans by the thousands. And they will be kept in Jail for 10-15 days. If people take any action (even non-violent ones), they will be put in prison for years.

Under Putin's rule, rallies have never solved anything.
Even in 2012, there were more than 200,000 people near Bolotnaya Square against the results of the presidential elections in Russia. It didn't solve anything. There was not a single piece of news about this in the Russian media. As if nothing is happening. Even if a million people come out for a peaceful protest, this will not change anything. Everyone will just ignore it and put a bunch of people in jail and prison. As it was in Belarus.

If you're talking about revolutionary protest. Then the FSB and FSO work here no worse than the police. At any rally, all political and strategic important objects are surrounded by military and police officers and in huge numbers. For example, someone will try to break into the white house, a shooting will be opened. If 100,000 people try to do this, a huge number of people will be killed. For what? Putin is not in the White House. Nobody knows his location. What is your specific plan? Try to describe it calmly and without emotion. What should the Russians do to change the regime?

Quote from -verde- :

When being in majority of westerners became an argument? To know what Putin actually says, you'd need to get a full and proper translation, which western media is not able or doesn't want to provide sometimes. To know what Russians think, you should have known Russian and find real people outside of western social media. The real thing is that some people outside of Russia (and in this thread) couldn't care less about the war this war is about to end. Is that war justified in your eyes? Would you wish it to continue?

Bishop does not say anything about being westerners. He just said facts. If his facts are not important to you, but the belonging of a person is important, then here I am Russian. Like you, I listened to Putin's speech in my native language.

For the entire first half of the speech, he justified his actions, including the reasons that I described here myself in the thread above. And more:

He said that he has nuclear and modern weapons, and if someone else interferes in this war, he can use them.
- Do you think this is the rhetoric of a mentally healthy president of the country?

He said that the Nazis are in power in Ukraine.
- And who are these Nazis in power in Ukraine? Is Zelensky a Nazi? Ridiculous. There have been no Nazis in power in Ukraine since 2015. And even in the presidential elections in February 2014, 2 Nazis, Yarosh and Tyagnibok, took part in less than 1.5 percent for two. In the parliament of Ukraine, 1st seat belongs to a nationalist. Where about 450 seats. It seems to be less than the European average.

He said that "a genocide is taking place in Ukraine against millions of people living there, and they rely only on Russia."
- an obvious lie. What other genocide of millions of people .. a person just went crazy if he really believes in it.

He said "military operation on the territory of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic"
- But the Russian Troops are already in Kyiv, Kharkov, Kherson. (pic 1) The invading troops came from all directions of the borders of Belarus and Russia, including Crimea. He says one thing and does another. Of course, I understand that this is normal for Putin and everyone is used to it. But if someone does not understand, then this is not correct. It's not a "military operation" in a specific region of the country. But in Reality Its a War on the whole country..pic1 Shows the movement of heavy equipment like tanks, armored personnel carriers, and more. Pic2 shows the first attack on 24 February with airstrikes on the whole country against strategic military targets.

He constantly lies, and not only now, but all the time also to his people. But you prefer to pretend that nothing is happening. I don’t understand how it can be, is it some kind of special superpower like a filter in the head that don't allow you to see the lie? Or were you constantly forced to watch "Россия 24" and "RT" with spacers in your eyes like a clockwork orange hero?

Last edited by Aleksandr_124rus, Tue 1 Mar 2022, 10:05.

Quote from LakynVonLegendaus :

Haha, exactly! Let's not talk about our peace-loving Western leaders who are bombing the shit out of countries like Syria and Somalia. War doesn't help create a stable world but somehow these wars are an exception, right? Of course. No, let's not focus on these wars. Let's focus on that war that is happening way too close to us to be ignored. That war about which the media is so desperate to convince the public it was started by the Russian invasion only a few days ago. The same media that were initially soooo sure that if we just get the vaccine we won't be able to get and spread the virus and everything will be beautiful again. How can anyone still believe anything these useful idiots are saying is beyond me. But never mind, sooner or later reality will slap us so hard that we will finally, once and for all realize that ignorance isn't as blissful as our egos would like it to be.

Nobody said that other wars are good and that American Hegemonic globalism is good. America and Europe have made a huge number of mistakes. And contributed to the appearance of such dictators as Putin and Lukashenko. But I believe that Putin's speech in Munich in 2007 was right in many ways.

When the troops stood on the border, I was pretty sure that this was just a threat and a muscle-flexing in front of the West. But I was wrong. Putin began to act irrationally. This war does not meet the national interests of Russia. This is a war for something else. (resentment, anger, despair) Putin thinks emotionally and not rationally. And now he threat of nuclear weapons. Why? Is it just a threat or is he serious? Now I can't say for sure.

I have been closely following the situation in Ukraine since the Euromaidan in 2013. Above, I have already described all the possible reasons for Putin's actions. All these reasons do not justify the killing of people and the war of conquest that Putin is now doing. But before there were more reasons for war. It made less sense to attack Ukraine now. Now I don't see a good way out of the situation. Even if Putin joins Ukraine to Russia without much sacrifice. Then the inhabitants of Ukraine will hate Russia, as it was during the Soviet era when the inhabitants of the Baltic States hated Russia. It didn't end well then, it won't end well this time either.

This is a war that has no winner. Not Russia or Ukraine will get anything good in any outcome of this war. There will only be a huge economic downturn in both countries. Because of the sanctions and the loss of the military budget in Russia and because of the destruction of infrastructure in Ukraine. Back in the twentieth century, liberal democratic countries learned to negotiate because they began to understand this and that no war is worth the joy of replenishing the budgets of private military companies like Lockhead Martin, Because these and other countries have nuclear weapons, and now wars cannot be allowed among those countries that have them. Because it's a real threat to the whole world and people around the world should be against this war if they think rationally and protect their lives and the lives of their loved ones.

But the most important thing right now is that innocent people are dying, and on both sides. The death of the Ukrainian people is obvious to everyone. But it is not obvious to everyone that in Russia there is mandatory military conscription. If you have reached the age of 18 and you live in Russia or Ukraine, you are obliged to join the Army, no matter what your views on participation in the war. You just go there and hope that while you serve a year there will be no war. And in fact, in the army, they take away phones and all means of communication with the outside world, they tell him that these are ordinary military exercises and they give him an assault rifle and ammunition and send off him for real military operations in Ukraine. That's what's happening. For the most part, not understanding, fearful kids howl on both sides. And this is not Counter-Strike or Arma 2, this is reality.

I'm sure no matter what my beliefs would be. That if it so happened that I began to justify any wars of conquest, then something is wrong with my beliefs. This was influenced by propaganda, improper upbringing or the wrong influence of the people around you.

Last edited by Aleksandr_124rus, Tue 1 Mar 2022, 08:04.

Quote from Scawen :

How about Russians getting rid of Putin? I mean removing him from office? I realise a lot of Russians really like him for various reasons but this new invasion and its obvious negative effects on the Russian people and everyone else, must plunge him to a far lower level of popularity. Is there any chance at all of a complete revolt, cease to carry out his commands, lock him up and get someone in charge who hasn't lost their mind? Are the military forces so loyal to him that this is out of the question?

I say this as a supporter of reason and as a person of the world who doesn't want more bloodshed. Nothing to do with supporting "The West". But Putin is losing it. He sounds like a desperate man and it's time for him to go.

The sooner he is removed, the sooner we can start to put things right. There is so much to do, so much change needed in all countries of the world. But blowing things up and killing people isn't getting us any closer.

In Russia, all the media are tightly controlled by the government, and the saddest thing is that they are good at brainwashing the older generation of people. They represent everything in such a way that it is necessary "Putin is good, he cannot be replaced, and there is no one who can replace him. And we are surrounded by enemies, the main of which are the United States and NATO countries."

Media that cannot be controlled are called "Foreign agents" who are required to publish a bunch of text before article text or video clip about how bad they are that they receive money from abroad. Although it is impossible to create independent media in Russia in any other way. The military and police sector has been greatly increased in salaries, they receive 3-5 times more than teachers or doctors. For 20 years, a police state has been built, surveillance of everything that is possible, prison terms for reposts in social networks. There is no longer any freedom of speech or freedom of the media.

The best oppositionist against Putin is Boris Nemtsov, who was killed in 2015 near the Kremlin. https://youtu.be/sqfeZcSRSFw subs working.
The investigation failed to identify those who ordered the murder. But everyone knows who he is.
Alexei Navalny also gathered large rallies against Putin and the authorities, made a huge number of exposes about the corruption of officials in Russia, the expose Putin gained more than 120 million views on YouTube https://youtu.be/ipAnwilMncI. Alexei Navalny decided to be a candidate for election as President in 2018.
He was not allowed to participate in the elections.
In 2020, he was poisoned with a chemical weapon. He found out that he was poisoned by the FSB agents and he made a expose about it too, and he was even able to talk to one of the people who was involved to poisoned him, and the poisoner did not understand he was talking to Navalny. there is a video on YouTube with subtitles https://youtu.be/ibqiet6Bg38. The events were so fantastic that you could make a Hollywood movie about it, the plot of which would be hard to believe. After poisoning and treatment in Germany, Navalny returned to Russia and was imprisoned on charges that were declared falsified by the European Court of Human Rights

Also, only "right" candidates are allowed in the elections to the State Duma (Federal Assembly of Russia). Candidates with anti-Putin views are not allowed. Especially in presidential elections. All other oppositionists have either been killed, left the country, or are no longer involved in politics.
Putin for 20 years of power has built a very loyal people around him. Which is allowed to steal money from the state budget. It is difficult to imagine a palace coup of his people.
Any rally is severely suppressed, for example, every day thousands of random people are detained by the police at rallies after the Ukrainian war. At past rallies, some who took some action against the police, just any even non-violent actions in the direction of the policeman (resisted arrest, threw an empty plastic cup, raised the visor of a helmet) were sent to prison from 1 to 5 years for this. Many are intimidated, and those who are not intimidated support the Putin regime. The rest go to rallies. that is why it is rather difficult to hope for millions of people on rallies right now.


The situation is extremely difficult. Putin firmly holds on to power and he did everything for 20 years so as not to lose this power. for a change of power not for natural reasons, only the Kennady scenario remained. But FSB surveillance on this matter is also well developed here. Although it is not a fact that after the change of ruler, the country's policy will change. Unfortunately, I don't see anything that can be done now

Last edited by Aleksandr_124rus, Mon 28 Feb 2022, 08:10.

Quote from Snoop.DriftEra :

When you justifying things happening by Ukrainian government been shootong Donetsk and Lugansk for the Last eight years - try to recall how Russia been shooting Grozny when Chechnia wanted to seperate. It's exactly the same thing. They don't let a part of their country to be seperated. And if Putin is so kind to help people seperate from opressive governmen, why didn't he let Chechnia seperate. Because all chechens wanted was "leave us alone, we have different culture, we want live as neighbours with you in our own country".

Maybe this analogy is not completely accurate, but you are absolutely right in this historical analogy. situations are very similar. But in their further progress, they differ greatly. What did Putin do in the case of the Chechens? He put a respected leader for the Chechens and poured a huge amount of money into it. In Russia, Chechnya is the most subsidized region. Thus showing that he has a good attitude towards Chechnya and its culture.
What did the Ukrainian government do in Donbass? Nothing. Military clashes between the militia and the military of Ukraine lasted for 8 years, did not change anything, the Minsk agreements did not work. But it couldn't go on forever. There must be some way out of the situation. So apparently it happened ... What I'm not happy about.

Let's make this analogy even more precise. Where Chechnya is even more similar to the Donbass. For a thought experiment, now imagine that in the event of a Chechen war, but instead of Kazakhstan and China and all of Asia, another country. let's call it Chechnya 2.0 Which has a much larger military arsenal than Russia. And there, for the most part, the same people live in Chechnya in Russia with the same culture and the same language. And in this case, I think it will be very easy to imagine the same scenario when Chechnya 2.0 invades Russia. Because what will stop them? Nothing.
I do not justify Putin. War is evil. But I can understand his actions. And why it's happening.

Quote from Snoop.DriftEra :

Now we have bad relations with Chechens, Georgians Ukrainians and the rest of civilized world while our own human rights and constitution constantly violates and prices going up.

I don't know who you represent when you say "we" but Russia and Chechnya have good relations now for the reasons I described above. For the rest, you're right. But you reproach another person for the influence of propaganda. (which may be true) But if you have an idea of Good in the form of the "civilized world" and evil in the form of Russia. Not as easy as you think. Or maybe you yourself are under the influence of propaganda. I'm sorry if I misunderstood your words.

As a Russian, I voted "no" in the poll. I am against the war, like many Russian citizens, I am against what is happening now in Ukraine. And if someone watched Putin's appeal to the people, then this is so ****ed up I can't even put into words. In fact, he threatens with nuclear weapons any country which intervenes in this war and talks about things that did not happen, for example, about the "genocide of millions of the Russian population." This is what happens when an authoritarian ruler remains in power for more than 20 years. But if you think that everything is so one-sided, then this is also not true. I try to look at the historical process as objectively as possible. I follow and understand politics and history. In order for what is happening you need to understand the historical context:

During the unification of Germany in 1990, NATO and the European Union really deceived Russia when they said that NATO would not move east. At the Madrid summit in July 1997, Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic were invited to participate in the alliance, and then other states of the former socialist camp. Since the late 1990s, 14 countries have joined NATO: in 1999, Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic; in 2004 - Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia and Estonia; in 2009 - Albania and Croatia; in 2017 - Montenegro, in 2020 - North Macedonia. Thus, today NATO unites 30 countries. This is a very important turning point for Russia. The purpose of creating NATO is to protect the countries of the alliance from possible military aggression of the USSR. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was established on April 4, 1949. When the Soviet Union collapsed, a natural question arises, what for does NATO exists now? If this is not against Russia, then can Russia, for example, join NATO? This is what Putin tried to do in 2000. But NATO refused. Why? I don't see any other answer as a threat to Russia.

After the Soviet Union collapsed America and the West generally treated Russia as a second-class country, we were not listened to when we were against the bombing of Yugoslavia, when we were against the invasion of Iraq. And other things like that. And what's more, after the advent of Gorbachev and under Yeltsin from 1885-1999, there was a huge turn in Russian politics towards true liberal democracy, with a free media, freedom of speech, and the people's right to choose their leaders. Etc. And we received a disregard of the West at this very moment as if hinting that Russia went the wrong way. USSR and Russia did nothing bad from 1985 to 2008. But from West, we have - "Did you lose the cold war? Shut up now." And we were treated like losers. it couldn't last long when a large country with a good army and nuclear weapons is in power with an authoritarian leader who wants respect for himself. From this context, such rulers as Putin appear. And the result of all this was Putin's speech in Munich in 2007 when he said that he was against American sole leadership in foreign policy. The world must be multipolar, which includes many leaders.

And after that, Russia has Georgia сonflict in 2008, Ukraine сonflict with Crimea in 2014, Syria in 2016, etc. And this is what it led to. Full-fledged military conflict in Ukraine.
Ukraine, which gravitated towards the European Union and joining NATO, which would mean NATO troops on the border with Russia and the American fleet next to our bases in the Black Sea.
Ukraine, in which there are east pro-Russian regions, people in whom they consider themselves Russian, and in 2014 with the support of America these people were quite oppressed by the pro-Nazi government with laws against the Russian language. Although this has changed a lot by today and the government is already different and Russians are treated better.
Ukraine, which, after the conflict in 2014, announced its intention to withdraw from the agreement on the absence of nuclear weapons. But I believe that this case was used as a casus belli to attack Ukraine. In my opinion, it was much more reasonable to do this in 2014. Which would still be wrong in my opinion. But Putin's actions still have reasons today.

Not only Putin alone is to blame for this, but also the West. Putin appeared because of the West.

Last edited by Aleksandr_124rus, Sat 26 Feb 2022, 09:25.

Quote from Aleksandr_124rus :

Desired Team Colour: С
Usernames:
Aleksandr_124rus
Foch_sho
simon11111
Araiguma

Change in Team Cyan

simon11111 to bender1996

Update posted:
Skin Template changed (fixed flip side)
Add two more color sliders for the Rim for more optionality
Add two more default skin
Removed spoiler on Stock OEM Kit. I don't sure that is better or not.

Desired Team Colour: С
Usernames:
Aleksandr_124rus
Foch_sho
simon11111
Araiguma

Quote from Flame CZE :

The setup with slicks on is easily flippable I think that is a thing preventing this mod from being approved.

https://streamable.com/yyamws

Quote from Aleksandr_124rus :

I fix it.
Btw ill could do flip nonmoded XFR on slicks R2 when I have max stiffness and max ride height.

So it can be approved now?

Update posted! Changes:
Mass, suspension, default setups, wheels from 19 to 18 inches, engine a bit.

Quote from Flame CZE :

The setup with slicks on is easily flippable I think that is a thing preventing this mod from being approved.

https://streamable.com/yyamws

I fix it.
Btw ill could do flip nonmoded XFR on slicks R2 when I have max stiffness and max ride height.

I was wrong when I said that it depends on the automatic algorithm, but still having enough rating is quite important.

I tried to take into account all your wishes. It was a hard and long job. I did the improved physics, did the templates and the skin, add to swap side, and much more. I made a mod for everyone, although some mod makers make mods for private.

⚠But now I will have a request for all of you.
In order for the mod to appear in the "approved" as soon as possible, go to the mod page and put all the ratings. Of course, I will be grateful to you if you consider it necessary to put 5 Star. It is ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT to rate for the animation, as apparently, they are not enough for the approval.
❗https://www.lfs.net/files/vehmods/284E1F?information❗
I think it will be convenient for you to find the mod in the LFS without clicking on any tabs if you like that mod.

The fact is that the approval depends on the algorithm, which is calculated from the amount and higher of the rating. And because this rating category was added last amount the rating for animation is very low.

Here is all templates for skin. The difference in bodykits.
N.S80 Stock
N.S80_Origin Labo
N.S80 BN Sports
N.S80 RB
N.S80 Skin All (all in overlay)

Update posted:
Added Skin ID, and templates.
Added 2 Skins.
Edited Suspension.
Edited Engine sound.

Progress for today

Quote from loopingz :

Very nice. What is your youtube channel so that I can check it?

link in the first thread post.

I started modeling again from the beginning, streams are still on my YouTube channel almost every day.

One of the viewers suggested a new way to modeling through imagemodeller program. You load photos of the car into the program, create there tracking points to conspicuous places on the car, usually, these are the corners of the gaps, after 8-14 points calibration of the cameras is possible, You need 40-50 points to be accurate result, after which it can be exported to a blender and with high accuracy. Export In the fbx file, there configured cameras and point cloud are exported as empty objects. That saves a lot of time and make it much easier to modeling.







Let's continue today, try to finish main mesh of the exterior today.

Update posted. Edited Rims a bit, changed the engine, changed weight balance, changed default setups.

I decided to continue the mod, Floppy 400Z as I understand will not be uploaded in LFS.
Live stream - https://youtu.be/xZnfZ15jwL0

Update posted.
Added: new rims, swap side.
Changed: aerodynamics, default setups.
A bit mesh fixes. A bit of materials change.

Perhaps some of you saw how during the stream they sent me information that someone had already done 400z in LFS, https://youtu.be/op7-AUOf2G4?t=521, probably that screenshot from testing it, and apparently, it will soon be uploaded to LFS. After that, to be honest, I was upset, because all this time I had an idea to make the entire line of popular Z-series cars, 240z 350z 370z 400z, and not only did Fairlady Z first appear in LFS, but right during the stream where I creating 400Z I found out about 400Z already exist in LFS... to be honest, that is frustrating, and after that I lose desire to do it...

Sorry everyone for the expectations. But apparently, the expectations are not in vain, since the 400Z will appear one way or another.

I do not know if I will continue this mod, most likely it depends on whether it appears in the LFS or not.

Continuing stream - https://youtu.be/nM6GYAmR2q0

In live on https://youtu.be/r9OlMRSh4nA
Creating Nissan 400Z for mod in LFS