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Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from Gunn :And I'd add night racing to the list as well.

It doesn't make sense so I'm only adding things that may affect the development of the game, the night is already planned and will be added in the next patches.
Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from guislle :Also +1 for engine sound improvements.

Quote from Gunn :+1 for sound improvements (at least for engine sounds).

Quote from farcar :I'd like sound improvements to be a priority as well.

I added a new option "sound improvements" instead of the safety rating because no one voted for it, you can choose this option
Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from dfgjkl :Имелось ввиду другое по англицки как то не так.Товарищь из UK аргументирет Зеленский еврей как он может быть нацистом? а бандерлогское движение в почете и нацистская идиология времен 2й мировой.

Для того кто носит русский флаг у тебя очень плохой русский язык. Выглядит как гугл переводчик. Если так, то лучше пиши на английском, там у тебя получается лучше) Нацысты существуют во всех странах, это не является показателем вообще ничего. Количество нацыстов в стране как правило коррелирует с количеством представителей другого\их народа\ов и мигрантов внутри страны.

Я все еще не вижу примера нацистов во власти на Украине. Если ты не это имел в ввиду то ты сам признаешь что нацистов во власти на Уркаине нет? И ты признаешь что это был один примеров лжи Путина которая служила в качестве одного из поводов вторжения на Украину?


Quote from dfgjkl : Ты кого из них оправдываешь или привел в премер?Давай сравним - одним дают право скакать в рамках дозволенного,другие доскакались!

Я привел пример. Вроде это очевидно из контекста. Потому что такие движения существуют повсеместно во многих странах. Твои субьективные оценки того как эти двежения успешны мне не очень интересны. Я не знаю из каких интенций ты пишешь то что пишешь, я вижу только один правдоподобный вариант. Но меня по больешй части интересует моя страна. И что бы людям в моей стране жилось хорошо. Сейчас к сожалению это не так благодаря нашему руководству.


Quote from dfgjkl : а вот тут ты все перевернул и поэтому идешь на фиг

Я где то не прав? Ты против этой войны? И при этом оправдываешь эту войну? Разве это не самопротиворичво? Выскажи свою позицию напрямую.
Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from gu3st :One of the best community features of iRacing is built in voice chat. It humanizes who you're racing with.

iRacing is a slightly different game, it more "pro" lvl, there's a higher price tag which increases the threshold for competent people. We still have a lot of not very sane people. If all sorts of kids, spammers and flooders go to voice chat we must first figure out how to deal with them.
Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from dfgjkl :Good question! Fascism, chauvinism and Russophobia in Ukraine is massively cultivated throughout the entire independence.
We are also wondering why Zelensky and his co. not remove from power by the Nazi gopniks who ran there?
Why does every trash arrange torchlight processions and glorify Bandera and his henchmen, who are known for their bloody deeds against their own fellow citizens!?
Why are they destroying their own history under the guise of some kind of "decommunization"? Or maybe your media doesn't show it?

Why do I not see unique thoughts from you, but only propaganda takes?

Quote from dfgjkl :not remove from power by the Nazi gopniks who ran there

Name these Nazis in power in Ukraine with proof or that is bullshit.

Quote from dfgjkl :Why does every trash arrange torchlight processions and glorify Bandera and his henchmen, who are known for their bloody deeds against their own fellow citizens!?

Because they have the freedom to protest, and there are not only Nazis, but also nationalists, conservatives, monarchists and and people of various views, as in Russia there were Russian marches "Русские марши" in which there were exactly the same people of various views including the Nazis. There are such protests and such people in any country. Nationalists in the Parliament of Ukraine has 1 seat out of about 450. In presidential elections 2014, they do not gain more than 1% of the vote. This is less than the European average. I understand that it may come as a shock to you that they were allowed to elections, but there are free elections and real politics in the country, this is what happens. People can vote for whoever they want, I understand it's hard for you to imagine.

Quote from dfgjkl : Why are they destroying their own history under the guise of some kind of "decommunization"? Or maybe your media doesn't show it?

Yes, this is history. And? Or do you think the history can only be good? Yes there were some good things too, but Communism claimed the lives of millions of Russians, Ukrainians, and many other peoples in the light of mass starvation due to incompetent management of the economy, Stalin's mass repression, Great Purge, Dekulakization, Сlerics repression, and other repression a huge number of people died.. Even if you could survive there is seizure of property acquired from citizens under the Russian Empire, totalitarianism, donositelstvo, deficit, сollectivization, iron curtain, lysenkovshchina, "Enemies of the people" who were repressed according to quotas, and which anyone could become.. and many such things does not very good life in this mode. I think you can understand them in the light of all this. I do not understand just how weak the people's memory which glorify this regime. Where the life of an individual human is worth nothing.


Quote from dfgjkl : So you think what happening in Ukraine destroyes Donbas last 8 years was ok?

You are in favor of war here. And for some reason you think this is an argument for Putin .. First of all, Putin himself did not care about it. For 8 years he did not recognize the DPR and LPR, he did not send troops there as they officially stated. So this is an argument against Putin if you think this war is right. Because all these 8 years people were dying and Putin did nothing. I understand that you are taking takes from propaganda without thinking with your head. And that's why you contradict yourself.
I don't think this war is right. It was a conflict within the territory of Ukraine. For example, in Russia there was a conflict on its territory with Chechnya in 90s-00s. This is an internal matter of the state in which no one should interfere. If the Russian people didn't like living there, they should have moved to Russia, but they didn't. And now, because of this war, both the Ukrainians and the rest of the world hate us. Our economy and politics are collapsing. Putin threatens with nuclear weapons and lie about "millions of people undergoing genocide" (Which I guess normal for you, because he constantly lies, everyone has long been accustomed to) and "Nazis with power in Ukraine" And at the same time people continue to die in Ukraine. And there are still people who continue to believe in propaganda and justify it all. Of course. it's always easier than thinking with your head.
You were told in propaganda only what they needed to tell you, and turn a blind eye to everything else in order to brainwash you, which they did remarkably well.

I answered your questions, I hope to get answers from you. Try to think with your head this time.
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Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from Kahn62 :I believe that the only thing worth doing here, is a built in voice chat program, like they use in Team Fortress. Too many people who own this game never play it, and the reason I feel is that there is a failure to comunicate. When someone takes you out, it can be a deliberate premeditated comment on your driving practices sometimes, or it can be a noob, who knows no better, and probably did not even know you were there. The question is, how do you tell one from the other? Often people rage quit a game, and never go back, through the actions of someone who, in reality bears them no malice. Someone who just made a mistake, or has not developed their positional awareness to an experianced level yet. If someone does a deliberate attack on you, and then someone else screws up, the build up of rage in you is the square of the rage each would produce if the other were not there. You have sold plenty of copies of the game, and the reason the servers are not full, is that people don't like being crashed into, with no explainations, and no apologies. I believe that four hours work for a dev, could revive this sorry excuse for a game, and let's face it this engine is far better than every other racing game I have tried, the reason people don't play will not be addressed by improving the graphics, they are already way beyond what you need, and weather is a nice extra, but it is not needed. Comunication is. I understand that there is the Babylonian problem, with two hundred languages voice chatting, but it works in other games.

I don’t understand why this is necessary when people interested in voice chat have programs like discord and teamspeak. We already have enough kids in the form of fluders and spammers in the chat, I don't think it would be a good idea to give them voice chat as well. I'm here rather in favor of the idea of ​​mute of any player in the chat by the admin. But this option also had to be removed due to the limit.
People do not return to the game because the game has not been updated for a long time. And they get bored. For example here is an update with mods that brought back many players.


Quote from Kahn62 :BTW, on a separate thought. Will the weather affect the grip? Too many driving games have weather, and it makes not one iota of differance to the lap times when it is suposedly pouring down cats and dogs. Snow should have an effect on your grip, ice should definately slow you down. Light rain after a dry spell is a fatal combination, IRL, but in ALL driving games so far, no probs, carry on setting WR times.

Of course, the weather affects the grip if we talk about real life, if the games you played do not show this, then these are bad simrace game or arcades.
In real life, grip is a complex multi-factorial property of a tire, everything affects grip, air temperature, humidity, sun angle, asphalt temperature, tire pressure, etc. not to mention obvious things like rain, snow and ice.

Quote from Kahn62 :Also weather would make little difference to people with good video cards, but would cripple people with mediocre to poor cards. The rich already have a huge advantage over the poor, in ALL games, and I see no benefit to anyone by compounding this further.

In the next patches there will be graphics improvements that will greatly affect the requirements for graphics cards, I do not think that what you write should affect the graphical improvements of the game. I don't understand why graphic improvements are bad. Everything evolves over time, and if we talk about LFS, it develops more slowly doing compared to other car simulators, wich it's not their fault, it's their quantity. And we, as players, must keep up with our favorite games with our hardware. Otherwise, we could play on Pentium 2 and not develop in terms of graphics. I don't think it's a smart move. So I don't understand this claim.
Moreover, the weather is more likely not about the graphics, but about the behavior of the car, and processor calculations are already required here, too, in terms of which the LFS has always been inexpensive. Perhaps in terms of graphics, the weather can be implemented without heavy loads on graphics cards.
Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from LiveForBoobs :Nice poll. Add tyre physics and engine sound improvements as options?

Tire physics will be update on the next LFS patch it does not make sense to add to the poll. I thought about adding engine sounds improvements to the poll, and as I wrote earlier I had more than 30 options for add in the poll, it turned out that there is a limit of 15 options. I had to remove some things like engine sounds improvements.
Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from bishtop :Racism is banned/illegal, at least in the Uk , and no it does not make it disappear totally, it does force it into the shadows. You cannot discriminate someone due to race or religion in the UK

There are movements/groups that promote it but usually either in the shadows or they mask it with a different agenda

Are you saying that racism should not be illegal or banned ?
Its possible that i'm misreading what you're saying as you don't seem like that type of person

I did not ask you how things are with the society and the law in your country. I asked - how it should be according to you? At different times in different societies there were the different variety of laws, and their existence is not an argument. In the 30s there was a law in Germany that Jews are not people, and therefore they can be killed, there was such a law, did you think it was right? If not, then I don’t understand why you wrote how it happens in your country. An appeal to the law is not an argument, just like to public morality. If you didn't answer on my questions, why should I answer yours?
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Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from UnknownMaster21 :Unfortunately, free speech is complete myth. It was never really allowed, and never will be.

What do you mean?
All human rights are a social construct, they have no material value, its do not fly somewhere in the air that they could point a finger at them. In this sense they are all a myth. But when people talk about human rights, like the the right to freedom of speech, they talk about principles or beliefs about the treaty to which we must adhere. There is nothing absolute. Based on this, there is no absolute freedom of speech.
But everything I have described above is trivial judgments. You probably meant something else. Then explain your position.


Quote from bishtop :Free speech should never be an excuse for any type of hate speech, otherwise it allows things like racism ect

How then can we fight racism, ban it and it will disappear by itself? Do you really believe this is how it works? What I know is that many people, purely out of curiosity, or out of hatred for a regime that bans beliefs, begin to pay attention to those things that were banned. The Forbidden fruit is sweet.
In the Soviet Union, all sources of information except Soviet propaganda were banned, so many began to tune their radios to foreign news radio stations and began to believe them. This is how bans work in practice. When you start to forbid something, it is very easy to get carried away.
Left liberals first talked about human rights and freedoms, and now they are banning other people and ruining their cayers, perhaps soon there will be laws for this too. J.K. Rowling canceled, accused transphobia in the Harry Potter book, singer Lana Del Rey canceled, accused anti-feminism because of her songs. Do you think it should be like this? Or should more be allowed? Or less? Why? By making a distinction between what should be allowed and what should be prohibited, and wherever we do it aren't we making an arbitrary and unreasonable distinction?
Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from Scawen :Thank you.

I have also taken this opportunity to reduce LakynVonLegendaus ban to one month.

EDIT: This is a completely separate incident, not related to the hate-speech discussed in recent posts.

I do not want to over-react through irritation and anger. I applied too long a ban of 3 months in the first place. I do believe LakynVonLegendaus was reacting to another user and me, in separate cases, by deciding what we were thinking, incorrectly, then attacking us for that incorrect assumption, and not listening to reason after that point.

It's not a sensible way to discuss things. We need to stay calm and talk to each other, as these country leaders should do. Let's try to understand what others are saying.

To be clear, I am including myself in that as I know I can get passionate and overreact and I must make sure I listen and consider different viewpoints.

Personally, I agree with SamH

Player from screenshot certainly deserves some kind of punishment. If I were an admin on this server, I would give him a ban for at least a month. But as I understand it, we were talking now about restrictions on all servers. I understand that LFS is your game. And you can set your own rules here who can say what and who can't. But the more such restrictions, the more limited the freedom of speech we all have. And I believe freedom of speech is a good. Because I live under a regime where, unfortunately, freedom of speech is not considered a good. In our country, for example, a person can be imprisoned for reposting condemning Nazism because there was a swastika in the post. If you write down in internet "putin is evil" out that you can be put on jail for insulting the authorities and given a heavy fine. If someone goes to a single picket with a poster he is detained by the police. I understand that you think that there is a big difference between this and what is happening here. But in our opinion, we rightly impose restrictions on this player. And Putin, from his point of view, rightly imposes restrictions on us.

And in my opinion, free speech needed more as possible to keep to keep the overton window as wide as possible so that no one is afraid to express their opinion. Unfortunately, the modern left-wing world does not think so with its cancellation culture. As well as authoritarian and totalitarian states.

Free speech is not there to defend words like "what a beautiful sky" "what a lovely lady outside the window" freedom of speech is there to defend things we don't like. Insults, obscenities, beliefs that are wrong from our point of view. Why? To not limit our mindset. So that we can choose any words and beliefs.

I am absolutely against what the player says in the screenshots. But by restricting access to him, we rather confirm his position and not argue with it. From which he can conclude that he is right.
Aleksandr_124rus
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I think many people want to choose several options, but you can’t choose too many at once. I limited the choice of 3 items in the poll.
Favorite feature request by most of players.
Aleksandr_124rus
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There will be an explanation above each option. Read before making a choice.
But first, I want to say that these are not only my preferences, I studied the Improvement Suggestions forum and chose the most frequently encountered feature requests and wrote them down in a poll. I did not add the options that will be added in the next update with graphics, night and physics. Also all car requests as they can be covered by the new mod system. Track requests are also covered by the trackeditor option. Initially, I maked about 30 options, but then I realized that in the poll there was a limit of 15, so I had to delete and combine something.
Maybe somewhere in forum already had a similar thread. But I think that now it will be more relevant. already a lot of what the players asked for has been added. And this post can give developers an understanding of what players want the most.

Features:

Track editor - same as mod system. New software to be able to create tracks for LFS. LFS with ingame browser of tracks created by players with filters, rating etc. (that would be clear that high-quality tracks needed)

Sound improvements - Improved engine sounds so it sounds more realistic and better surround-sound. Improved wind sound, it is especially clear that it is not enough in electric cars, although on straight lines it is basically the only thing that is heard there is the wind in real life. Аlso can be improved the tire sounds (and not only a creak, but from hard tires there is also a sound when driving slowly on asphalt, and especially gravel.) and add more environmental sounds (leaves, weather, crowds, etc.).

Dynamic temperature of asphalt - the temperature of the asphalt, which will change under the influence of the direction of the sun on the asphalt, the temperature outside, and the path of the tires most often driven by players.

Dynamic weather and working wipers - Prerace customized or random rain (and a track that gets wet and slippery), downpour, fog, Snow and ice surface ability to choose the season or the surface of the asphalt on standard tracks.

Better car damage - better carbody damage (Strange things happen in mods when high poly mesh get damaged), tearing off body parts, shattering glass, brake overheat, engine overheat, gearbox breaking, etc.

Car animation - various animations that mod makers can add with collisions. i.e. adding animated collision objects. it will be possible to add opening of the door, trunk, hood, truck bodies. For example, can be create a tow truck that can lift and carry a car on itself.

Smart AI - Defending position abilities, aggressive overtakes, some unpredictability and overall realism i.e. mistakes under pressure. Standard bots become very predictable and boring after a few races.

Better graphics features - Highpoly driver mesh, visual dirt on cars (windows and body etc.), more realistic smoke, sparks, glowing brake disks, motion blur on rims, high beams & low beams headlights, more driver animations To make the driver look more alive he need to gear change, controll the levers and buttons. etc.

Better force feedback - Many players say that other simrace games are better at force feedback. That it gives more information when driving also here Real time FFB monitor and min force FFB slider - Some people want this https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/1967106#post1967106.

In-race Safety car bot - Also quite obvious and highly anticipated feature.

Server-side tire heat value - For nonrace mod only in cruise mode, the ability to change the value of the tire heating (or wear) multiplier, (or changing tire treadwear) so that you can drive longer on the same tires, this can be useful for drifters. In the real world (noncompetitive) they use high Treadwear tires to ride longer. or slicks tire preheat in Garage thats Adding a feature from formula 1. It would be cool to see something like that.

Revlimmiter and anti-lag - Also quite obvious and highly anticipated features.

More bumps on tracks in general - The asphalt on the tracks is too ideal, on many real tracks it is not. sometimes there is not enough variety.

Changing size of wheels and tread wear of tires in the garage - self explaining name. For cruise mod only.

Car Ping flickering fix - I think we all noticed that in LFS cars online twitched more than in other simrace games, apparently LFS use a different algorithm for displaying the player's position. perhaps it is worth at least optionally making another smoother system. Like in iRacing or Asseto Corsa, so that the hoster can choose as he wants.

Of course, I would like to see all these features in one form or another sometime in the game. But it is impossible to get everything at once.
Choose what is most important to you.
And I would like the developers to pay attention to the most popular features.
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Poll - Favorite feature request by most of players.
Aleksandr_124rus
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There will be an explanation above each option. Read before making a choice.
But first, I want to say that these are not only my preferences, I studied the Improvement Suggestions forum and chose the most frequently encountered feature requests and wrote them down in a poll. I did not add the options that will be added in the next update with graphics, night and physics. Also all car requests as they can be covered by the new mod system. Track requests are also covered by the trackeditor option.
Maybe somewhere in forum already had a similar thread. But I think that now it will be more relevant. already a lot of what the players asked for has been added. And this post can give developers an understanding of what players want the most.

Features:

Track editor - same as mod system. New software to be able to create tracks for LFS. LFS with ingame browser of tracks created by players with filters, rating etc. (that would be clear that high-quality tracks needed)

Safety Rating - some score system which will be decisive for participation in some leagues or servers. It will work, for example, as in some insims based on collision, and whoever had a higher speed is the one to blame.

Dynamic temperature of asphalt - the temperature of the asphalt, which will change under the influence of the direction of the sun on the asphalt, the temperature outside, and the path of the tires most often driven by players.

Dynamic weather and working wipers - Prerace customized or random rain (and a track that gets wet and slippery), downpour, fog.

Better car damage - better carbody damage (Strange things happen in mods when high poly mesh get damaged), shattering glass, brake overheat, engine overheat, gearbox breaking, etc.

Car animation - various animations that mod makers can add with collisions. i.e. adding animated collision objects. it will be possible to add opening of the door, trunk, hood, truck bodies. For example, can be create a tow truck that can lift and carry a car on itself.

Smart AI - Defending position abilities, aggressive overtakes, some unpredictability and overall realism i.e. mistakes under pressure. Standard bots become very predictable and boring after a few races.

Better graphics features - Visual dirt on cars (windows and body etc.), sparks, glowing brake disks, motion blur on rims etc.

Better force feedback - Many players say that other simrace games are better at force feedback. That it gives more information when driving.

6,8,10 wheels car - This can be useful for mod makers who want to make many wheeled trucks etc.

Highpoly driver mesh - It's pretty obvious. In many highpoly mods, the driver already looks a bit weird..

Snow and ice surface - ability to choose the season or the surface of the asphalt on standard tracks.

Pit stop with animated people - To add atmosphere especially to the formula series, it would be cool to see people put new wheels on, fill up the car, etc.

In-race Safety car bot - Also quite obvious and highly anticipated feature.

Nitrous Oxide System - many people want NOS.

Server-side tire heat value - For nonrace mod only in cruise mode, the ability to change the value of the tire heating (or wear) multiplier, so that you can drive longer on the same tires, this can be useful for drifters. In the real world (noncompetitive) they use high Treadwear tires to ride longer.

Real time FFB monitor and min force FFB slider - Some people want this https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/1967106#post1967106.

Revlimmiter and anti-lag - Also quite obvious and highly anticipated features.

More driver animations - To make the driver look more alive he need to gear change, controll the levers and buttons.

High beams & low beams headlights - quite obvious too. But I'm not sure if this will be covered in the night and graphics update.

Rotary (Wankel) powered car - also pretty obvious and more variety for mod makers.

More bumps on tracks in general - The asphalt on the tracks is too ideal, on many real tracks it is not. sometimes there is not enough variety.

Muting players in chat by admin - Everyone is pissed off by flooders and spammers. An expected feature by many.

Tow-backs - https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/97047-Tow-backs

Slicks tire preheat in Garage - Adding a feature from formula 1. It would be cool to see something like that.

Сustomizable traffic light - A very important thing that is highly lacking in events.

Changing size of wheels and tread wear of tires in the garage - self explaining name. For cruise mod only.

Car Ping flickering fix - I think we all noticed that in LFS cars online twitched more than in other simrace games, apparently LFS use a different algorithm for displaying the player's position. perhaps it is worth at least optionally making another smoother system.

Of course, I would like to see all these features in one form or another sometime in the game. But it is impossible to get everything at once.
Choose what is most important to you.
And I would like the developers to pay attention to the most popular features.
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Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from TV[cz : Every passive adult Russian citizen is co-responsible for war crimes unleashed by their leader, mentally ill Putin in Ukraine. And have blood on their hands. They let the evil to rise and grow for 20 years, not taking action against. Russians, you are delussioned, in denial. Similar as Germans civilists were in denial of concentration camps existence until were taken to see on their own eyes. Then the reality hit them. Too late. In this very moment, Putin destroys your future and our future too.

C'mon Russians, you can still do it, stop genocide

I understand that you are emotional. As we all. We all don't want this to continue. But you do the same thing as Putin when you call what is happening a "genocide". People were killed in Ukraine for 8 years and before that in the LPR and DPR regions where Russians live. Putin called it "genocide" and sent troops into Ukraine. And some people living in LPR and DPR justify it.

You live in the Czech Republic (as I understand it) and tell us what to do. But I don't think you understand the current situation. Russia is not the Czech Republic. Russia is not Germany or France. In Russia, the number of law enforcement agencies per capita is the highest in the world. Russia is an authoritarian police state ruled by a dictator. There are no free rallies. Rallies must be coordinated with the state. They are coordinated far from the city center. If people go to rallies without the consent of the state, they are loaded into police vans by the thousands. And they will be kept in Jail for 10-15 days. If people take any action (even non-violent ones), they will be put in prison for years.

Under Putin's rule, rallies have never solved anything.
Even in 2012, there were more than 200,000 people near Bolotnaya Square against the results of the presidential elections in Russia. It didn't solve anything. There was not a single piece of news about this in the Russian media. As if nothing is happening. Even if a million people come out for a peaceful protest, this will not change anything. Everyone will just ignore it and put a bunch of people in jail and prison. As it was in Belarus.

If you're talking about revolutionary protest. Then the FSB and FSO work here no worse than the police. At any rally, all political and strategic important objects are surrounded by military and police officers and in huge numbers. For example, someone will try to break into the white house, a shooting will be opened. If 100,000 people try to do this, a huge number of people will be killed. For what? Putin is not in the White House. Nobody knows his location. What is your specific plan? Try to describe it calmly and without emotion. What should the Russians do to change the regime?
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Quote from -verde- :When being in majority of westerners became an argument? To know what Putin actually says, you'd need to get a full and proper translation, which western media is not able or doesn't want to provide sometimes. To know what Russians think, you should have known Russian and find real people outside of western social media. The real thing is that some people outside of Russia (and in this thread) couldn't care less about the war this war is about to end. Is that war justified in your eyes? Would you wish it to continue?

Bishop does not say anything about being westerners. He just said facts. If his facts are not important to you, but the belonging of a person is important, then here I am Russian. Like you, I listened to Putin's speech in my native language.

For the entire first half of the speech, he justified his actions, including the reasons that I described here myself in the thread above. And more:

He said that he has nuclear and modern weapons, and if someone else interferes in this war, he can use them.
- Do you think this is the rhetoric of a mentally healthy president of the country?

He said that the Nazis are in power in Ukraine.
- And who are these Nazis in power in Ukraine? Is Zelensky a Nazi? Ridiculous. There have been no Nazis in power in Ukraine since 2015. And even in the presidential elections in February 2014, 2 Nazis, Yarosh and Tyagnibok, took part in less than 1.5 percent for two. In the parliament of Ukraine, 1st seat belongs to a nationalist. Where about 450 seats. It seems to be less than the European average.

He said that "a genocide is taking place in Ukraine against millions of people living there, and they rely only on Russia."
- an obvious lie. What other genocide of millions of people .. a person just went crazy if he really believes in it.

He said "military operation on the territory of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic"
- But the Russian Troops are already in Kyiv, Kharkov, Kherson. (pic 1) The invading troops came from all directions of the borders of Belarus and Russia, including Crimea. He says one thing and does another. Of course, I understand that this is normal for Putin and everyone is used to it. But if someone does not understand, then this is not correct. It's not a "military operation" in a specific region of the country. But in Reality Its a War on the whole country..pic1 Shows the movement of heavy equipment like tanks, armored personnel carriers, and more. Pic2 shows the first attack on 24 February with airstrikes on the whole country against strategic military targets.

He constantly lies, and not only now, but all the time also to his people. But you prefer to pretend that nothing is happening. I don’t understand how it can be, is it some kind of special superpower like a filter in the head that don't allow you to see the lie? Or were you constantly forced to watch "Россия 24" and "RT" with spacers in your eyes like a clockwork orange hero?
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Quote from LakynVonLegendaus :Haha, exactly! Let's not talk about our peace-loving Western leaders who are bombing the shit out of countries like Syria and Somalia. War doesn't help create a stable world but somehow these wars are an exception, right? Of course. No, let's not focus on these wars. Let's focus on that war that is happening way too close to us to be ignored. That war about which the media is so desperate to convince the public it was started by the Russian invasion only a few days ago. The same media that were initially soooo sure that if we just get the vaccine we won't be able to get and spread the virus and everything will be beautiful again. How can anyone still believe anything these useful idiots are saying is beyond me. But never mind, sooner or later reality will slap us so hard that we will finally, once and for all realize that ignorance isn't as blissful as our egos would like it to be.

Nobody said that other wars are good and that American Hegemonic globalism is good. America and Europe have made a huge number of mistakes. And contributed to the appearance of such dictators as Putin and Lukashenko. But I believe that Putin's speech in Munich in 2007 was right in many ways.

When the troops stood on the border, I was pretty sure that this was just a threat and a muscle-flexing in front of the West. But I was wrong. Putin began to act irrationally. This war does not meet the national interests of Russia. This is a war for something else. (resentment, anger, despair) Putin thinks emotionally and not rationally. And now he threat of nuclear weapons. Why? Is it just a threat or is he serious? Now I can't say for sure.

I have been closely following the situation in Ukraine since the Euromaidan in 2013. Above, I have already described all the possible reasons for Putin's actions. All these reasons do not justify the killing of people and the war of conquest that Putin is now doing. But before there were more reasons for war. It made less sense to attack Ukraine now. Now I don't see a good way out of the situation. Even if Putin joins Ukraine to Russia without much sacrifice. Then the inhabitants of Ukraine will hate Russia, as it was during the Soviet era when the inhabitants of the Baltic States hated Russia. It didn't end well then, it won't end well this time either.

This is a war that has no winner. Not Russia or Ukraine will get anything good in any outcome of this war. There will only be a huge economic downturn in both countries. Because of the sanctions and the loss of the military budget in Russia and because of the destruction of infrastructure in Ukraine. Back in the twentieth century, liberal democratic countries learned to negotiate because they began to understand this and that no war is worth the joy of replenishing the budgets of private military companies like Lockhead Martin, Because these and other countries have nuclear weapons, and now wars cannot be allowed among those countries that have them. Because it's a real threat to the whole world and people around the world should be against this war if they think rationally and protect their lives and the lives of their loved ones.

But the most important thing right now is that innocent people are dying, and on both sides. The death of the Ukrainian people is obvious to everyone. But it is not obvious to everyone that in Russia there is mandatory military conscription. If you have reached the age of 18 and you live in Russia or Ukraine, you are obliged to join the Army, no matter what your views on participation in the war. You just go there and hope that while you serve a year there will be no war. And in fact, in the army, they take away phones and all means of communication with the outside world, they tell him that these are ordinary military exercises and they give him an assault rifle and ammunition and send off him for real military operations in Ukraine. That's what's happening. For the most part, not understanding, fearful kids howl on both sides. And this is not Counter-Strike or Arma 2, this is reality.

I'm sure no matter what my beliefs would be. That if it so happened that I began to justify any wars of conquest, then something is wrong with my beliefs. This was influenced by propaganda, improper upbringing or the wrong influence of the people around you.
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Quote from Scawen :How about Russians getting rid of Putin? I mean removing him from office? I realise a lot of Russians really like him for various reasons but this new invasion and its obvious negative effects on the Russian people and everyone else, must plunge him to a far lower level of popularity. Is there any chance at all of a complete revolt, cease to carry out his commands, lock him up and get someone in charge who hasn't lost their mind? Are the military forces so loyal to him that this is out of the question?

I say this as a supporter of reason and as a person of the world who doesn't want more bloodshed. Nothing to do with supporting "The West". But Putin is losing it. He sounds like a desperate man and it's time for him to go.

The sooner he is removed, the sooner we can start to put things right. There is so much to do, so much change needed in all countries of the world. But blowing things up and killing people isn't getting us any closer.

In Russia, all the media are tightly controlled by the government, and the saddest thing is that they are good at brainwashing the older generation of people. They represent everything in such a way that it is necessary "Putin is good, he cannot be replaced, and there is no one who can replace him. And we are surrounded by enemies, the main of which are the United States and NATO countries."

Media that cannot be controlled are called "Foreign agents" who are required to publish a bunch of text before article text or video clip about how bad they are that they receive money from abroad. Although it is impossible to create independent media in Russia in any other way. The military and police sector has been greatly increased in salaries, they receive 3-5 times more than teachers or doctors. For 20 years, a police state has been built, surveillance of everything that is possible, prison terms for reposts in social networks. There is no longer any freedom of speech or freedom of the media.

The best oppositionist against Putin is Boris Nemtsov, who was killed in 2015 near the Kremlin. https://youtu.be/sqfeZcSRSFw subs working.
The investigation failed to identify those who ordered the murder. But everyone knows who he is.
Alexei Navalny also gathered large rallies against Putin and the authorities, made a huge number of exposes about the corruption of officials in Russia, the expose Putin gained more than 120 million views on YouTube https://youtu.be/ipAnwilMncI. Alexei Navalny decided to be a candidate for election as President in 2018.
He was not allowed to participate in the elections.
In 2020, he was poisoned with a chemical weapon. He found out that he was poisoned by the FSB agents and he made a expose about it too, and he was even able to talk to one of the people who was involved to poisoned him, and the poisoner did not understand he was talking to Navalny. there is a video on YouTube with subtitles https://youtu.be/ibqiet6Bg38. The events were so fantastic that you could make a Hollywood movie about it, the plot of which would be hard to believe. After poisoning and treatment in Germany, Navalny returned to Russia and was imprisoned on charges that were declared falsified by the European Court of Human Rights

Also, only "right" candidates are allowed in the elections to the State Duma (Federal Assembly of Russia). Candidates with anti-Putin views are not allowed. Especially in presidential elections. All other oppositionists have either been killed, left the country, or are no longer involved in politics.
Putin for 20 years of power has built a very loyal people around him. Which is allowed to steal money from the state budget. It is difficult to imagine a palace coup of his people.
Any rally is severely suppressed, for example, every day thousands of random people are detained by the police at rallies after the Ukrainian war. At past rallies, some who took some action against the police, just any even non-violent actions in the direction of the policeman (resisted arrest, threw an empty plastic cup, raised the visor of a helmet) were sent to prison from 1 to 5 years for this. Many are intimidated, and those who are not intimidated support the Putin regime. The rest go to rallies. that is why it is rather difficult to hope for millions of people on rallies right now.


The situation is extremely difficult. Putin firmly holds on to power and he did everything for 20 years so as not to lose this power. for a change of power not for natural reasons, only the Kennady scenario remained. But FSB surveillance on this matter is also well developed here. Although it is not a fact that after the change of ruler, the country's policy will change. Unfortunately, I don't see anything that can be done now
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Quote from Snoop.DriftEra :
When you justifying things happening by Ukrainian government been shootong Donetsk and Lugansk for the Last eight years - try to recall how Russia been shooting Grozny when Chechnia wanted to seperate. It's exactly the same thing. They don't let a part of their country to be seperated. And if Putin is so kind to help people seperate from opressive governmen, why didn't he let Chechnia seperate. Because all chechens wanted was "leave us alone, we have different culture, we want live as neighbours with you in our own country".


Maybe this analogy is not completely accurate, but you are absolutely right in this historical analogy. situations are very similar. But in their further progress, they differ greatly. What did Putin do in the case of the Chechens? He put a respected leader for the Chechens and poured a huge amount of money into it. In Russia, Chechnya is the most subsidized region. Thus showing that he has a good attitude towards Chechnya and its culture.
What did the Ukrainian government do in Donbass? Nothing. Military clashes between the militia and the military of Ukraine lasted for 8 years, did not change anything, the Minsk agreements did not work. But it couldn't go on forever. There must be some way out of the situation. So apparently it happened ... What I'm not happy about.

Let's make this analogy even more precise. Where Chechnya is even more similar to the Donbass. For a thought experiment, now imagine that in the event of a Chechen war, but instead of Kazakhstan and China and all of Asia, another country. let's call it Chechnya 2.0 Which has a much larger military arsenal than Russia. And there, for the most part, the same people live in Chechnya in Russia with the same culture and the same language. And in this case, I think it will be very easy to imagine the same scenario when Chechnya 2.0 invades Russia. Because what will stop them? Nothing.
I do not justify Putin. War is evil. But I can understand his actions. And why it's happening.

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Now we have bad relations with Chechens, Georgians Ukrainians and the rest of civilized world while our own human rights and constitution constantly violates and prices going up.

I don't know who you represent when you say "we" but Russia and Chechnya have good relations now for the reasons I described above. For the rest, you're right. But you reproach another person for the influence of propaganda. (which may be true) But if you have an idea of Good in the form of the "civilized world" and evil in the form of Russia. Not as easy as you think. Or maybe you yourself are under the influence of propaganda. I'm sorry if I misunderstood your words.
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As a Russian, I voted "no" in the poll. I am against the war, like many Russian citizens, I am against what is happening now in Ukraine. And if someone watched Putin's appeal to the people, then this is so ****ed up I can't even put into words. In fact, he threatens with nuclear weapons any country which intervenes in this war and talks about things that did not happen, for example, about the "genocide of millions of the Russian population." This is what happens when an authoritarian ruler remains in power for more than 20 years. But if you think that everything is so one-sided, then this is also not true. I try to look at the historical process as objectively as possible. I follow and understand politics and history. In order for what is happening you need to understand the historical context:

During the unification of Germany in 1990, NATO and the European Union really deceived Russia when they said that NATO would not move east. At the Madrid summit in July 1997, Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic were invited to participate in the alliance, and then other states of the former socialist camp. Since the late 1990s, 14 countries have joined NATO: in 1999, Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic; in 2004 - Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia and Estonia; in 2009 - Albania and Croatia; in 2017 - Montenegro, in 2020 - North Macedonia. Thus, today NATO unites 30 countries. This is a very important turning point for Russia. The purpose of creating NATO is to protect the countries of the alliance from possible military aggression of the USSR. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was established on April 4, 1949. When the Soviet Union collapsed, a natural question arises, what for does NATO exists now? If this is not against Russia, then can Russia, for example, join NATO? This is what Putin tried to do in 2000. But NATO refused. Why? I don't see any other answer as a threat to Russia.

After the Soviet Union collapsed America and the West generally treated Russia as a second-class country, we were not listened to when we were against the bombing of Yugoslavia, when we were against the invasion of Iraq. And other things like that. And what's more, after the advent of Gorbachev and under Yeltsin from 1885-1999, there was a huge turn in Russian politics towards true liberal democracy, with a free media, freedom of speech, and the people's right to choose their leaders. Etc. And we received a disregard of the West at this very moment as if hinting that Russia went the wrong way. USSR and Russia did nothing bad from 1985 to 2008. But from West, we have - "Did you lose the cold war? Shut up now." And we were treated like losers. it couldn't last long when a large country with a good army and nuclear weapons is in power with an authoritarian leader who wants respect for himself. From this context, such rulers as Putin appear. And the result of all this was Putin's speech in Munich in 2007 when he said that he was against American sole leadership in foreign policy. The world must be multipolar, which includes many leaders.

And after that, Russia has Georgia сonflict in 2008, Ukraine сonflict with Crimea in 2014, Syria in 2016, etc. And this is what it led to. Full-fledged military conflict in Ukraine.
Ukraine, which gravitated towards the European Union and joining NATO, which would mean NATO troops on the border with Russia and the American fleet next to our bases in the Black Sea.
Ukraine, in which there are east pro-Russian regions, people in whom they consider themselves Russian, and in 2014 with the support of America these people were quite oppressed by the pro-Nazi government with laws against the Russian language. Although this has changed a lot by today and the government is already different and Russians are treated better.
Ukraine, which, after the conflict in 2014, announced its intention to withdraw from the agreement on the absence of nuclear weapons. But I believe that this case was used as a casus belli to attack Ukraine. In my opinion, it was much more reasonable to do this in 2014. Which would still be wrong in my opinion. But Putin's actions still have reasons today.

Not only Putin alone is to blame for this, but also the West. Putin appeared because of the West.
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Update posted:
Skin Template changed (fixed flip side)
Add two more color sliders for the Rim for more optionality
Add two more default skin
Removed spoiler on Stock OEM Kit. I don't sure that is better or not.
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Quote from Flame CZE :The setup with slicks on is easily flippable Shrug I think that is a thing preventing this mod from being approved.

https://streamable.com/yyamws

Quote from Aleksandr_124rus :I fix it.
Btw ill could do flip nonmoded XFR on slicks R2 when I have max stiffness and max ride height.

So it can be approved now?
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Update posted! Changes:
Mass, suspension, default setups, wheels from 19 to 18 inches, engine a bit.
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Quote from Flame CZE :The setup with slicks on is easily flippable Shrug I think that is a thing preventing this mod from being approved.

https://streamable.com/yyamws

I fix it.
Btw ill could do flip nonmoded XFR on slicks R2 when I have max stiffness and max ride height.
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