After thinking about it if you are sitting in an office chair or similar seat (quite high up) then you are probably better off with the pedals stock so you can push down on them, the upside down pedal arrangement suits low down cockpit setups for more forward pressure.

An option (read description) more than £30 tho

Edit:
Another option...
Shifter
Pedals
Again using Leo's magic box

Last edited by B1gch0pper, Fri 6 May 2011, 21:58.

Cheers fella, PM sent, look forward to hearing from you

Any joy fella?

Quote from dynofiend :

I remade the skid/crash/gravel/grass sounds in LFS to include 40hz sine waves in them. They are what I use to activate my home made 'butt kicker' and the system works reasonably well. Mind you, mine doesnt react to wind noise so it might be a little different to yours? Youre welcome to borrow the sounds if you like. Let me know via PM and ill attach them as a zip to this thread.

Hi mate, yes I would be very interested in giving it a try, whats to lose?
Thanks very much buddy, look forward to giving it a test drive

Some huge improvements to 'the project' in the last few months, here is a few pics of whats been happening...

The ButtKicker

Managed to talk the missus into buying me a brand new Buttkicker Gamer 2 for my birthday last year, it works extremely well on most games, F1 2010 and Simbins Race series prolly work the best along with iRacing and GTR2, basically any games with curbs I feel really well and also get a nice amount of engine vibration from the low burbley cars.
On LFS though its pants, no curb feedback and it picks up the bass tones from the wind (??) so shakes according to how fast you are going, even with the wind noise turned down, which is naff, LFS is one of the only race games i play with it turned off...

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Triple Screens

I managed to get a really good deal on 3x 22" LG Flatron factory reconditioned screens from eBay, and so could not resist.
The result is astounding, the immersion is immense, its improved both my enjoyment and i think my capabilities too as i can see MUCH more of the track and hit apexs much more as i can see them earlier.
Apologies for the poor quality of pics i wasn't completely down with how my new phone camera worked...





Some screenshots of how I play Race 07 in 5040x1080...






Have also uploaded a few vids if your interested how it looks...

The missus having a go in LX6 around Westhill

Replay of a race I just ran in Race 07

DiRT2 Rally Croatia in Mitsubishi Evo 10

Last edited by B1gch0pper, Mon 2 May 2011, 22:35.

Make an A-frame from wood (minimum 2"x2")

As shown by this stunning geezer in this post.
Just end the top of the A-frame at the top pedal mounting bar...

Quote from Gener_AL (UK) :

This server is also currently Hosting the South City Long Reversed Route 30 Layout.
While easter Holidays and such is ongoing
We will also be testing other community layouts and will try to organize something official soon for people looking for fun, clean, and fast racing

Massive fun on the Z30 R2R server last night, HUGE new tracks, both rallycross and road layouts brimming with fun! Nice one fellas, enjoyed it a lot

Good job with the commentary guys, enjoyed watching and listening a lot!

Found it extremely amusing when the guys start having a debate about the GraVt team name... lol
To me its obviously meant to be Gravity but just spelt different, when the commentators started saying gravt etc, and finally deciding on grav-T i chuckled

lol, is the handbrake not a stapler?

Yep, totally agree with this.
For anyone who uses a ButtKicker the bass tones generated by driving over rumble strips adds more immersion and feels great (as in Race 07 etc).
Inaudiable bass tones could be used as well to simulate bumps and smooth(er) rumble strips!
Most other driving games have this and i was really disappointed when my Buttkicker failed to give any feedback when hitting LFS curbs
Just an idea

Got one of the AMG servers streaming!!
Took ages but well chuffed with result, check it out...

http://www.livestream.com/amggtr

Quote from unseen :

Gotta love slapping bits of wood together to make your own little cockpit

You get exactly what you want, pretty cheaply, and much more satisfaction when it`s all done.

Enjoy the fruits of your labours, sir

Exactamundo matee, bespoke build, to my specifications, enjoyed designing it in my head, loved building it, and think its fantastic to race in

Quote from jrd.racer :

Awesome man.

can i get that FZR sound in the youtube vid btw?

Thanks dude
The car being used in the vid is the main car i drive, the FXR with my own tweaked sound...

Quote from AtomAnt :

You might want to think about slapping and extra seat in there and taking the missus for a moon lit ride..

Ant

Ha ha, nice idea bud, do you think i would actually get any driving done?

Quote from AtomAnt :

Had an inspiration! Get the lad one of those electric cars/truck and make it a portable LFS rig.

Now that is a fantastic idea matee, i may pursue that ingenious thought further. Im thinking local free ads paper or even the tip, get a non working electric (or pedal i guess) car, and build it into that! Awesome stuff dude, nice thinking!

Thanks guys, im very proud of it and use it everyday, missus hates it
Im currently thinking about the design of a mini cockpit for my lad, he's nearly 4 and loves racing games, especially a go-karting sim we have, should be fun

Quote from dadge :

if you have a sub from the 5.1 (or 7.1) sound, mount it just under the wheel with the air channel facing the chair. this should give a nice rumble to replicate the engine. (front mounted engine though ) it will even blow some air out at you.

Now that sounds like a pretty darn good idea matee, get the rumble of the engine through the wheel like you would on any big front engined beast.
Not sure my sub would fit into the gap, but will defo look into it bud, i like the idea in principal

Quote from morpha :

It conflicts, also you cannot have LFS send OutGauge or OutSim information to multiple ports. I've written a [post=1331791]relay application[/post] for that purpose, see if that helps

Ah ha haaaa! Nice one buddy
Im at work at the moment but will give this a whirl tonight when i get in
Thanks matee

Hmmm, i tried changing the outgauge ID to all numbers 0-9 with different variations of outgauge modes and ports but to no avail.
Are you saying i can put the outgauge information into the CFG file twice?
Like this...

OutGauge Mode 0
OutGauge Delay 0
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 0
OutGauge ID 0
OutGauge Mode 1
OutGauge Delay 10
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 55
OutGauge ID 1

I think Aonio sorts the outgauge stuff out for its self, and enables it and assigns the correct ports etc, as the readme that comes with Aonio asks you to 'switch it off' (set the OUTGAUGE MODE to '0')
If i enable it so i can use the digi-dash (set the outgauge mode to 1 or 2), when i start Aonio, LFS says something like 'Outgauge already enabled in CFG file', and some information is missing from the Aonio displays.

Cheers fellas, like i say the project is a work in progress, so i guess it will never be fully finished, but will update this post as i go on...
Im thinking of covering the dash in a vinyl wrap with carbon fibre print, i know it wont be realistic as real cars dont have carbon fibre dashboards, but i think it might look the nuts...?
Next big step i think has got to be a ButtKicker, im so craving getting one but am not willing to pay £160+ for it, when they are sold elsewhere in the world (e.g. US) for less than half that! I might have a go at building my own, cheaper and prolly better in a way as it would be bespoke to my cockpit, but would it be as good and effective as a ButtKicker?
I have a birthday coming up, i might start dropping a few hints to the missus Keep your fingers crossed

The dash now has some controls, i ripped apart a USB control pad and soldered in some switches and buttons...

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Also added a USB keypad to the right of the wheel...


Have also added some rough labels so i know what i want where, i can change them around till i feel comfortable with the setup, im gonna add some more button on the dash too...















This is how my cockpit looks at the moment...




































Finally, got my Digi-dash installed and set-up and working correctly!
Took about 2 months to do all the wiring and build it into my cockpit, but its finally done and working fantastically, im loving it!

A couple of pics of the wiring i had to complete...


30 odd bits of wire, 60 odd solders, was hell on a stick, needed more patience than i have



After completing the solders and building it in, the first time i tested it there was a problem with the 4x 7-seg speed readout, it wasn't functioning correctly, turns out it was a dodgy solder and after re-soldering the first 4 i did, it now works perfectly
In the end it turned out good







I have also uploaded a video of the digi-dash to YouTube if anyone is interested...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8-Zabcvv64

Last edited by B1gch0pper, Mon 2 May 2011, 22:36.

Thought i'd post a few pics of my home made race cockpit, i haven't finished it fully yet, but i guess i'll post as i go
I didn't work to any plans set in stone, i just thought about how i could do it for a couple of weeks, got a basic idea, and went with the flow.
I think its looking pretty cool and its great to race in!
It was built in my cellar and is too big to get out now so i guess we are living here forever! lol

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STAGE 1 - Build the frame
I started with a 2' by 4' piece of MDF, mounted the seat on one side, and constructed an 'A' frame to mount the wheel



The timber i used was mostly 2"x4" and 2"x2" mainly for strength and rigidity, i wanted it to be rock solid, and it is!



I pulled the G25's pedals apart and mounted them upside down to add more realism and mimick a real car, i think they are way more comfortable and more suited to sitting down low (with legs almost horizontal)



Then built up the back to form the frame for the monitor stand...



And strengthened it, its going to be taking a 32" LCD monitor, dont need it wobbling about with that on!



Added some MDF as a Monitor stand...



Then covered the rest of the front making sure all wires from the pedals were routed correctly



Now its starting to take shape



Added the frame for the dash-display face, will leave the face of this till last as it will hold all auxiliary buttons



Measured and jigsawed out the two side panels...



And added the top dash cover



View from the seat



Solid structure, absolutely no movement in it at all



Just before hooking it all up, was getting excited at this point



Added the shifter into the perfect position, and also added a handbrake from a Range Rover that i bought from eBay for £6...



All in all up yet the major costs were...

Materials, timber, MDF, screws = £80 (B&Q)
5.1 system = £40 (eBay)
32" LCD TV = £200 (eBay)
Handbrake = £6 (eBay)
Gamepad for handbrake switch = £2 (eBay)

Last edited by B1gch0pper, Mon 2 May 2011, 22:35.

Hi EQ
Have a problem with two different external add-ons that i want to run at the same time but LFS wont let me (up to yet), im hoping you will be able to help.
I currently run Aonio, which inside the LFS CFG file wants the outgauge UDP settings to be like this...

OutGauge Mode 0
OutGauge Delay 0
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 0
OutGauge ID 0

But i have just installed an external digital dashboard, which wants the UDP settings to be...

OutGauge Mode 1
OutGauge Delay 10
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 55
OutGauge ID 0

If i have the Outgauge Mode set to 0 Aonio runs but not the digi-dash, and if i set it to 1, the digi-dash works but aspects of Aonio stop working (fuel, speed, RPM and shift beep).
Is there any way around this so i can run both at once fully working?
Cheers mate

Hi guys
Have a problem with two different external add-ons that i want to run at the same time but LFS wont let me (up to yet), im hoping someone will be able to help.
I currently run Aonio, which inside the LFS CFG file wants the outgauge UDP settings to be like this...

OutGauge Mode 0
OutGauge Delay 0
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 0
OutGauge ID 0

But i have just installed an external digital dashboard, which wants the UDP settings to be...

OutGauge Mode 1
OutGauge Delay 10
OutGauge IP 127.0.0.1
OutGauge Port 55
OutGauge ID 0

If i have the Outgauge Mode set to 0 Aonio runs but not the digi-dash, and if i set it to 1, the digi-dash works but aspects of Aonio stop working (fuel, speed, RPM and shift beep).
Is there any way around this so i can run both at once fully working?
Cheers guys

Quote from Joker 1971 :

choose a car, which has a working shift bip.

not all cars get it since z25.

Yep, i race in FXR which defo has a shift light and used to have a shiftbip...
Not really sure what to do next, ive tried all i can think of.

mmm, still cant get shift bip to work even with new 1.53 version, does it work for everyone else?

Sorry buddy i understand the criteria, im not stupid, and have made many skins at 1024x1024 res...
But i have read in places about hi res skins, (2048x2048) i have placed more money into my LFS account and enabled the downloading of hi res skins in-game, but now i want to upload them, can i not do that then?
Whats the point in enabling an option to download hi res skins if no-one can upload them?
Please, more help than sarcasm guys!