http://www.jayski.com/news/rac ... NASCAR-Race-Info#goodyear

The right side tires this weekend will feature a new technique in the tire construction. The inside (left) third of the tire will be a very hard compound (the same as used at Michigain) and the outside will be the same soft compound used at Atlanta in years past.

I'm curious what it will do to the racing this Saturday (Nationwide) and Sunday (Sprint Cup) nights.

Well, I'm trying out the "Technology Preview" whenever the download finishes . Hopefully it's as good as you guys have made it out to be

Quote from Eclipsed :

Reverse parking?

Well, ideally all drivers would pit with the front of the car facing out of their pit stall at around a 10-15 degree angle. Anything less than 0 degrees I've always seen as rather selfish unless there is a good reason for it.. This is in IndyCar especially.

The 2011 Kentucky IndyCar race which I was at saw at LEAST 6 or 7 incidents on pit road for different reasons. It doesn't seem as though IndyCar makes the pit boxes clear most times .

Larson in the 42 next year, if true, will be rather interesting. He's got a lot of tallent, but I don't really think it's quite enough to jump to Sprint Cup that quickly. We'll see though some time if not in 2014.

Also, there's reports that ESPN and Turner (TNT) want out of the contract for 2014 to avoid a "lame duck season". It would be complicated and very difficult to pull off, but if the networks are interested then it actually is possible.

The race Saturday night was really good Kasey raced clean, but probably lost the race doing so. Kenseth 3, Kahne 0 this year in race ending battles

Friday night's race was a sad domination by the 54 car. Least exciting NASCAR race I've been to in person, but still not bad

(Thanks PMD)

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Enjoy the races this weekend guys . I'll be watching from the stands, but won't be present on here again until Sunday.

Great truck race last night, but Shrub was a disappointment to me . Deserved win, but not what I wanted to see

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Dennis, you can come here to race and live in my bedroom with me. It's fairly small, so you'll haffto snuggle up close. kk?

That's cute

Just out of curiosity, why do you say that state side is the place to be Dennis?

Quote from RandomnessInside :

Yeah sue me for stealing your idea like 4 months ago.

Anyways you're more than welcome to take part in this series!

Plan on it if the times work out Looking forward to it

Quote from JackDaMaster :

http://www.justin.tv/besweeet52

Thanks a lot Jack

Quote from UncleBenny :

On TV its on Fox Sports 2, which I know on Time Warner is part of the "Time Warner Sports" package which most people do not get. I actually have it, but I can't find the HD version of the channel, which is total crap. I assume someone will be streaming it online.

Okay, thanks. Yeah, I don't get it

Until I find a stream I guess I'll listen to this: http://www.bristolmotorspeedway.com/fans/bristollive/

Quote from UncleBenny :

Ridiculous that one of the bigger races of the year is getting preempted by PRESEASON football. Especially considering no one worthwhile will even be in the game by the time the race is starting anyway. I like football...but come on.

I contacted Columbus ABC (since that's the one that I get where I live) and received an e-mail stating that the station was obligated to show the football game, and not the race

In any event, does anybody know where I can find the Modified race tonight on TV/Stream?

http://espnmediazone.com/us/pr ... hannels-in-seven-markets/

ABC stations (7 of them) won't carry the IRWIN Tools Night Race. 6 of them will move it to ESPN, but Columbus, Ohio has moved it to a different local station (the CW) which is a pain in the butt.

I'm going to the race anyways, so it won't matter, but I hate to see network TV stations drop the race. Columbus's dropping of the race period is pretty bad though.

Being that I was going to try and start an MRT league on Wednesdays before I was referred to this thread by Rony, you can assume that I'm interested

No reason for me to create another league. If the event times are right I'll be there

Glad to see Vickers in the Cup Sereis again full time, but Dillon..

Well, in any event . We get to see Ambrose try and make it three in a row at Watkins Glen in the Sprint Cup today starting at 17:14 GMT. As stated before, he's on the pole. (Line-up)

Ambrose was only 17th fast in final practice though, and Edwards topped the charts. http://www.jayski.com/stats/2013/pdfs/22wgi2013prac2.pdf

Owen Kelly who also came over from Australia is making his Sprint Cup debut.. He's been strong in his 2 starts in the Nationwide Series. 2 starts, 2 top 5's (both at Road America)

Last edited by Cornys, Sun 11 Aug 2013, 15:05.

Quote :

Dominant (adj.) - occupying or being in a commanding or elevated position.

From there it's open to one's opinion of what that is exactly . By definition, just winning a championship would put a driver in a "commanding" AND "elevated" position. I wouldn't call that alone dominant myself, but, by definition, it actually is.

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Quote from amp88 :

He didn't 'dominate' V8 Supercars in either of his championship years. There's absolutely no doubt he was among the best drivers in the series at the time, but his performances in 2003-2004 shouldn't be described as domination. In 2003 he won 6/13 rounds and won the championship by 186 points (about 9% of his points total). In 2004 he won 11/26 races, finished 2nd in a further 4 and 3rd in a further 5. He won the championship by 238 points (about 11% of his points total). Compare these numbers to the 2002 championship winning performance by Mark Skaife. Skaife won 7/13 rounds and won the championship by 658 points (about 30% of his points total).

I'm not trying to minimise Ambrose's achievements in V8 Supercars at all. He was a great driver who was always at or near the front in good equipment. He also showed on a number of occasions that he was a thinking driver who had a degree of spare mental capacity available for strategy whilst driving as hard as necessary. He didn't 'dominate' V8s in 2003 or 2004 though.

Yes, that's true, but in 4 years of competition he finished 3rd, 1st, 1st, and 3rd in points. That alone says a lot . Especially winning the championship in his 2nd and 3rd seasons

Jimmie Johnson finished 5th, 2nd, 2nd and 5th in his first 4 season in the Sprint Cup with a total of 18 wins in 144 events (12.5%). Sebastian Vettel finished 8th, 2nd, 1st, 1st in his first 4 seasons in Formula One with 21 (11 in year #4) wins in 73 races (~28.75%).

By those standards Ambrose was still very dominant as far as motor sports are concerned.

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As always, as the battle for the lead heats up, ESPN/ABC goes to commercial . There is almost always a lead change during a commercial

Abrose on pole for tomorrow's race as he attempts to win Watkins Glen for the 3rd straight year.. To be fair, he dominated V8 SuperCars, so what could be expected. The series' in my opinion are pretty similar in tallent

After the first return visit to a race track with the Gen-6 car, I must say that the racing has been much better at most venues. The only exceptions that I have noticed so far are Darlington, Charlotte, and Indianapolis (not much worse). All other races have been better I beleive over the Gen-5 COT

Hopefully, the returns to all tracks will be as much improved as the return trip to Pocono. It was a pretty good race last weekend, and the one in the early summer wasn't half as good.

Benny, are you going to Bristol again this year for the night race? We renewed our seats for both races from last year (Allison, E, 21)

In the oval street stock division I was actually able to have quite a few clean races once I got into the top tier of that 'Rookie' Series. (6 month free trial) $0.00 invested in it

In general though, 90% of the drivers were trouble on road and oval races.

I think that many of the people here who organize events would rather keep to themselves. This is the only way they can be certain that the events will go the way that they feel they should. . This is the main reason that centralization fails on here.

The freedom that iRacing lacks is GREAT here on LFS, but we could use a little help that was lost with the SPDO Database . I would like to see us here at LFS have something like this website ( http://racing-reference.info/ ) for our events, but that would be asking a LOT.

Tell me a website like that for LFS wouldn't make you want to be a part of every league race possible.

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Yeah, at least there actually was something visible on the track there.. unlike often times . Generally there would have been more of them, but because the TV contracts are all secured, they will be less common I think. The Brickyard didn't have a debris caution, and it only had 3 real ones

Don't prove me wrong NASCAR, but I think this issue will slowly disappear. At least the ones where TV can't find any debris will disappear. If there's something on the track, they usually throw the caution

Interesting race so far . Other than Jimmie dominating, but there's some good racing between positions 10 - 20 .

Much better than the Ickyard 400 last week

Quote from Framaris :

Just to be clear on this one, GenR do not want to compete with anyone as league organisation (we only compete on the track as drivers), starting to organize leagues was just our last step to achieve in LFS, also we felt like we could do something different, so we are trying to offer different ways of racing and avoid what you guys are already doing as much as we can. But more importantly we want to keep friendly relationships and we try to compromise as much as we can, that's why we had a join venture with Thilo on the NEC and we are always working closely with Deko from NDR for the planning of our leagues. But of course it is not always possible to compromise with everyone, though if I remember well we've moved one of our races to accommodate you last year!

I didn't mean to single you guys out by any means. What you do is great for the community. It's nice to have another league organization running and putting on high quality events . We all should move and accomodate one another. I changed my plans in order to avoid you guys this year . I want you guys just have full grids just the same as I want to. I think all league admins feel that same way, and it makes it nice around here

Quote from Eclipsed :

Seeing so many LFS league experts hanging around in this thread,would like to see some opinions what went wrong with Grand Turismo Allrounder Series (link still in my sig),where average attendance is just over 6 per round. It's kinda filling some gap - GTR sprint racing,is this gap there for a reason?

I try to organize more simple events and not top-seriousness leagues,trying to find something different and not overused,even not targeting full grids (would be happy though),but lately everything turns into host team inner battle or "beat-the-Niki" show. Wondering if this has something to do with the "current state of LFS" or I'm doing something wrong? I have a plan to launch new and also very simple league,where would be used in forum poll voted single car for all rounds,not sure if it's worth to bother,don't want to end up with a triel (not sure if it's an actual word,ment is like duel but with 3) with teammates again.

Honestly, Rony, I don't really see where you went wrong either .

Quote from UncleBenny :

Just seems like a huge step back to me that almost half of FOX's races are getting moved to cable. What do they have on that's better and going to pull in better ratings on the normal FOX channel in that time slot? I just don't get the logic, seems like you're only hurting yourself but I guess it must make them money somehow.

I'm glad the truck series isn't going anywhere, I end up watching more truck races than Nationwide just because they tend to be more interesting. I'm interested to see what NBC sports does with the modifieds, if they give them some decent time slots and maybe even live coverage, I will definitely tune if for their races. Wish they still raced by me but they really scaled their schedule back a couple years ago.

The only thing that I can figure is that they are trying to promote Fox Sports 1 and NBC Sports Network (for NBC). I don't really think it's going to help anything. I'll only watch during a race just the same as if it was on FOX. I understand for the Nationwide and Truck races, but with Cup the only thing that's going to happen is less people watching.

The difference in ratings from FOX to TNT or ESPN is pretty sharp really.

Quote from TFalke55 :

Just asking, where do you see the competition between different league organizers?

While not directly, there most certainly is competition. Many times drivers will only race in one league race per weekend. Whenever there are two races on the same weekend typically both events suffer, or am I wrong?

There have been plenty of GT leagues, there's been 3 TBO leagues if you count Live For Slicks and with each one attendance has seemed to drop. The 2012 WTBOCS averaged over 20 competitors a round. I'm not sure about Live For Slicks, but even GenR isn't pulling what we did in the WTBOCS in 2012 now. This from a more reputable organization rather than Worldwide Racing.

Not directly is there competition. I, as a director, wish to see all grids in all leagues and events full. Even if that means not having my own events and helping with anothers. If there were only 10 league races a year, would we have full grids in all of them, or would they be laregly the same? This is my question. .

I feel like, even though we all wish each other the best, we still pull from the same audience, and as such compete with one another.

Last edited by Cornys, Thu 1 Aug 2013, 22:36.