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gezmoor
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Quote from mythdat :To be fair, against the only vaguely valid yardstick - that being his teammate - Button's been doing pretty poorly recently

To be even fairer, he would probably be doing even more poorly if his team mate wasn't the one sorting out the set up for the car for most of the races.

Both Button and Barrichello are "confidence" drivers. Neither of them are at their best when they don't feel 100% confident in the car. To be fair, this is true of most drivers to some extent. However there are the odd few that seem able to ignore how crappy the car feels and just drive it to it's limits irrespective.
gezmoor
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Quote from bbman :I'm just explaining the normal way to obtain a licence: First, you need quite some money (~ € 1000.00), then you have to learn the theory part and drive at least 18 hours with an instructor in the car, 1 hour highway and another one night driving included... When you turn 18 (you can start learning before) and an appointed doctor signs you fit for driving (no critical conditions - if your eyesight is too bad you might have to wear glasses mandatory when in the car), you are then allowed to take the theoretical test and if you pass, two weeks later you can take your practical test, which involves a bit of driving in normal traffic (~ 10 min.) and some exercices like parking and slalom around cones. Pass it and you get your licence.

For a few years now they included mandatory "Feedback-Drives" like in Finland after you've gotten your licence. You can't fail them, but you have to show up for it: 3 months after getting your licence first "Feedback-Drive", 3 months later half a day driver safety training and another 3 months later the second "Feedback-Drive".

Not that far different here in the UK.

A. Apply for provisional licence - allowed to drive with an experienced driver in the passenger seat.

B. Take lessons of some form.

C. Take Theory test, which includes
i. A one hour mulitple choice exam with 50 questions, pass mark is 43.
ii. A hazard awareness test where you're scored on your ability to judge 15 potential hazards before they actually happen in 14 clips of simulated drives on real roads. Maiximum marks is 75, pass is 44 marks.

You have to pass both parts at the same sitting, to gain your theory test.

Theory pass gives you two years to pass your practical test.

D. Practical test. Involves 40-60minute drive on real roads, (though not motorways), including two standard reversing manouvers; eyesight test, and vehicle knowlege test (e.g. how to conduct a tyre wear test, oil level/tyre pressure/steering/ABS/Brake tests).
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gezmoor
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Quote from Intrepid :You would have to re-run the following Grand Prix because drivers approach each race with a specific strategy relative to their position in the championship. Making it null and void would open a huge can of worms. Why? Because every year has seen dodgy decisions.

A team from Team B who used to work for Team A may still have evidence that Team A did something dodgy in a championship winning year that could affect the whole championship outcome, maybe even promoting Team B to the winner position.

It would be hugely unfair and unjust to Hamilton to take his championship away retrospectively and doing so would probably kill F1 over night. If a championship is never decided, and can be changed 5, 10 years down the road the sport would have very little credibility.

Fair points. Clearly there would need to be limitations, but I still can't see how a result who's outcome was affected by something as serious as this particular case can be allowed to stand, fair on Hamilton or not.

However I do take your point about about results changing driver attitude and strategy for remaining races. I guess, there's no easy way to solve such issues.


With regard to the Abu Dhabi circuit. I quite like it, don't really see how any track can be considered bad personally. A track is a track each one has things that fit certain drivers/set-ups etc and doesn't others. As long as a track is not so narrow that it's physically impossible to pass I really don't see what the fuss is about. I'd actually like to see MotoGP go there, think it would make for a great technical circuit for bikes.
gezmoor
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Quote from BurnOut69 :That would be if FIA rules didnt state that a Grand Prix results can not be reversed once certain conditions are met, which is the case.

Massa cant pretend to bend JUST the rules that favour him. Well he can try, but thats why he is sounding like a crybaby.

EDIT: Now if I was Alonso I would support Massa's petition just to piss off the Hamiltons

Quote from Intrepid : Just when people were respecting Massa more and more.

So it shows more integrity and less "crybaby" ness, (btw just the use of that term shows a childish level of maturity which makes its use rather ironic :shrug, if the rules support race fixing then??

Given that the race was "fixed" and has been accepted as such, what kind of professional, moral, sportmanship integrity do you have by allowing the results to stand? IMO the best, (and only logical), way forward in such cases is to call the race null and void and exclude it from the championship. Any other attempt to re-adjust the results just leads to far to many "what if's" and debate.

What kind of integrity does a rule have that states, irrespective of what wrong doing is discovered the results will stand? To me that's not fair play and justice it's just pure bloody-mindedness.
gezmoor
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Quote from bbman :Then he's an idiot who needs his licence revoked - granted that might not interest you anymore then, but still... If you rear-end someone, it is ALWAYS and WITHOUT EXCEPTION your fault! I would stop driving if I'd have to be always on the lookout for cars behind me to avoid an accident...

Tosh. That's rubbish, sorry. It's a rule that was made up by Insurance companies to make their job easy, not because it has any genuine merit.

The "theory" being if you are driving slow enough, with enough space and being attentive you should never hit the person in front. But the reality isn't like that. Driving on the road is only possible if people behave in predictable ways. If someone emergency stops in front of you for no reason you're going to tail end them. End of story. Why? because its IMPOSSIBLE to have a large enough gap between you and the vehicle in front in the real world. Why? because someone will pull in front of you and fill it. So what are drivers expected to do? keep backing off and end up going backwards?

Sorry but in the real world, a more pragmatic approach is called for. Over simplistic "rules" that don't fit with reality only suit certain parties, and have no basis in truth with regard to finding fault.

Quote from bbman :If you rear-end someone, you didn't leave enough space and/or went too fast. There is no possible way you can make an exception to that.

Come and try driving in London for a day and see how far you get with your simplistic idealistic point of view.
gezmoor
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Quote from dougie-lampkin :
It takes a whole second to put in the clutch and engage a gear anyway, so I don't see what the safety issue is?

1 Second at 30mph = 45 Feet (approx 3 car lengths).

Tell me the inability to accelerate for 45 feet isn't a safety issue.

Take the scenario of someone pulling out of a blind side road looking in the opposite direction, with oncoming traffic in the other lane. Travelling down hill, they don't have to be that close before they're too close to be able to stop in time. The only option that leaves you with is accelerating your way out of trouble by getting past them before they get in front, (or into the side), of you. Suddenly that 45 feet, might very well be the difference between getting past them and not.

Only someone with out much experience driving would ever think that the inability to steer/brake/accelerate instantaneously doesn't constitute a lack of control of a vehicle.
gezmoor
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Quote from tristancliffe :Why does removing/deactivating the ARB allow the car to lowered more? That will just reduce ground clearance even more when cornering (via excess bodyroll), and ruin the handling even more than just lowering it.

Presumably, it's a physical thing. The ARB must in some way restrict the level to which the wheels can get closer to the body of the car.

People that lower their car that much anyway, don't care, (and certainly don't understand), about handling. It's all about looks. The need for ever shorter springs is also tied in with their love of as big as possible wheels. Larger wheels lift the car, thus requiring shorter springs/dampers to lower the car back down again to where it started.

As for fully adjustable suspensions. Well like you say, more risk of messing the handling up than improving it, in practice.
gezmoor
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Quote from der butz :Well, he HAS done all of what you stated here, and for that alone he gets a big thumbs up from me personnally. And looking back in history I have to admit tinvek is absolutely right.
Obama started something, now he gets the price and he MUST continue making America a better behaving country.
BTW: I've often criticized more than half of the americans for voting bush into his second period, I have not yet congratulated them for getting the right one in place. Congratulations ladies :-)

greetz

der butz

Personally I think Obama is a good thing. Certainly for the world in general if not for the american population as a whole. The world needs a more outward facing America.

However, the idea of someone who is in effect the leader of a nation engaged in two wars, (irrespective of their moral legitimacy or not), being awarded a "peace" prize sticks in my gullet quite frankly.

It's clearly a political move. There are clearly far more deserving winners than Obama. At least he had the good grace to be "humbled" and "surprised" by the award.
gezmoor
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Definition of loss of control:

When one or more control option is not available or will take longer than prudent to become available.

ie. the inabilility to do one or more of the following instantaneously at any given point in time is deemed to be loss of control:

1. Steer
2. Brake
3. Accelerate.

Putting the car in to neutral at any time looses you the ability to accelerate. So by definition you have loss of control of your vehicle.
gezmoor
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Quote from danowat :Anyone who doesn't know what the word means, now has a definitive answer.

Obama wins nobel peace prize

Just when you think the world can't get any madder, this comes along to reaffirm that it can

Is it the 1st of April???

Apart from making US foreign policy slightly less arrogant and closer to what most other countries in the world would consider normal and civilised what exactly has he done to deserve a Nobel Prize?

Sorry, but this just has to be a joke. Right??
gezmoor
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Isn't the answer to the OPs question dependent on the type of rear suspension system in use?

Surely a rear beam suspension system would have less need of a discrete ARB given that the beam itself will do a similar thing to a greater/lesser degree??
gezmoor
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Quote from mrodgers :Not looking to wipe the drive and repartition and format to reuse on the 2nd drive. I'm just looking to move files off it. Need to move files off of C: as well before doing a format and reinstall of XP.

I have another smaller drive. From within Ubuntu, can I format the drive and have XP see it after XP is reinstalled? I am going to use the smaller drive to backup some files. Or, I may end up with a new drive (don't think funds allow though right now) and will want to partition and format a new drive. Can I do that within Ubuntu or would Windows XP have a problem with drives formatted from within Ubuntu?

Try Paragon Rescue Kit. It's a bootable CD that allows you to transfer files off the hard drive. Assuming the HD is accessable that is. It can also be used to fix Boot issues. Though, I've never used it for that so can't comment on it's safety. It doesn't require any Linux knowledge, apart from an understanding of its file system naming. But a bit of poking around will soon make sense of that.

http://www.paragon-software.com/home/rk-express/

Paragon also does other free software, (of course all have certain limitations):

http://www.paragon-software.com/free/



Also, there is Seagate Discwizard, which you can use to image, back-up and restore your partitions or drive to/from just about any location including a network location on another PC.

http://www.seagate.com/www/en- ... port/downloads/discwizard

I've yet to find a bootable CD Partitioning software bar GParted, that isn't DOS based and a complete pig to work with.

So if anyone has any recommendations, they'd be welcome.
gezmoor
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Quote from Becky Rose :Sun, sand, amigas and Caipirinhas versus snow and raindeer. hrmz. Tough call.

Fixed. (Before our Brasilian cousins have a fit, Fica Calma.. Calma !! pega uma pra vcs.. e uma pra mim.. beleza ! )

Well done Brasil !! About time South America got the Olympics !!
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gezmoor
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As Sam said, try re-connecting the drives cables, including the power connector, (make sure the PCs power cable isn't connected first !!).

If that doesn't sort out the problem, you can try the following to try and diagnose the problem:

1. Swap the cables between the two drives. If you start having "no boot device found", (or any faults relating to the C: drive is not being found), issues then it's the cable that is at fault and you'll need to replace it.

2. If 1. isn't the issue, try swapping the SATA ports on the motherboard for the two machines. If you start getting issues with the C: drive, (as above), then you have a fault on your motherboard relating to that SATA port.

3. If none of the above are the problem try swapping out the suspect drive to another PC, (use a cable from that machine), and see if it has the same issues. If it does then the drive is on it's way out, and you best get your data off it quickly before it finally fails for good.

I don't think it's PSU related as the power cables on the same output are paralleled so if one drive was having power issues so would the other most likely. However, you can try using another SATA power connector, (if one is available), just in case.
gezmoor
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What difference does it make if a religion is based on the philosophy of a real person or fictional characters.

In fact, a real person had to propose the philosophy that is being espoused by the fictional characters in the film so in actuality both "religions" would be based on philosophies originally theorised by real human beings.

Why is Scientology accepted as a religion? How is it different from the Jedi "religion" as described in the star wars books? apart maybe for the fact that the author of one fully intended it to be a religion and the other didn't???

What if George Lucas decided to write a book and found a church based on the principles of "Jedism" ?? Would that validate it as a religion?

The major religions of the world are all (at best) based on the writings of people that weren't even alive at the time of the alleged events that justify the clasification of the said beliefs as religions.

The principle really comes down to:

What do we accept as justification of a belief system that is fundamentally based on faith?
gezmoor
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Quote from ATC Quicksilver :The pull a Biaggi: Contantly claim to be better than Rossi despite never winning in the top class, then go to Superbikes and get owned by a Brit.

The pull a Schwanz (sp): Win it or bin it.
The pull a Hamilton (No 1): Lock up your front tire(s) overbraking in to a corner.
The pull a Hamilton (No 2): To shag your tyres completely at least 10 laps before you're due to pit.
To pull a Coulthard: To slow severely whilst on the racing line in the blinding rain so that the car behind smahes up your rear.
gezmoor
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I know the whole scenario appears to be a little on the comical side, however I have to say having read the article I am more than a little concerned about the way the Tesco staff behaved. If he's giving a true account of the situation, I think their behaviour is completey out of order.

If I were the guy, I would be making a formal complaint about the way I was treated also. It's not acceptable for staff to intimidate, (or anywhere close to infact), any member of the public irrespective of what the company policy might be on dress code in the supermarket. They are there to SERVE.

I could have a rather long rant about the behaviour of supermarket employees at this point, but I won't because I actually woke up in a rarther good mood and I'm not going to spoil the rest of my day.
gezmoor
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Quote from Minimaxman :Personally I'm glad to see the back of Flavio. Still think Piquet's ruined his career, which team is going to want to hire a driver that if they have to fire will possibly make allagations against the team. Especially when there's so many up-and-coming F1 drivers, I don't think they'll risk it with Piquet.

He didn't make allegations. He let the cat out of the bag about a conspiracy to cheat. That's one hell of a big difference.

I would have thought that if anything, the only thing that could potentially be held against Piquet would be the fact that he was prepared to go along with it in the first place. But given that pretty much all the teams are scheming cheating b*stards anyway I don't think that's going to count against him. The fact that he will spill the beans if you try pushing him around probably won't help his career in such an environment though.

Given that standing up for what's right against normal companies does your career no good, even when you're completely in the right and what you're being asked to do is actually illegal, is bad enough. But in motorsport where pretty much anything goes as long as you can get away with it, teams won't touch "honest" drivers with a barge poll.

To me this whole incident has just gone further to highlight the total lack of sportsmanship in F1.
gezmoor
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Quote from Bogey Jammer :Many things have to be modeled in engine physics to get less smooth curves (thermodynamics, fluid mechanics, pure mechanic, variable admission systems, ignition timing, cam profile and many other parameters). Anyway the common curves published in some general cars documentation are quite simplistic too. And the curves measured by dynometers are highly disputable (based on my observations )

But I admit such engine modeling would be exciting and would introduce us to engine setup !

Full engine/drivetrain modelling wouldnt be "required" in order to gain improved realism. Just simulation of realistic behaviour.

Quote from kaynd :This isn't going to happen in any sim anytime soon... such a physics model, specialized only for the engine is extremely complicated.
"Drown by hand" power cuerves, imitating or copying similar power curves from similar real engines, would be enough for any sim released in the following decade.
One of the difficulties, would be part throttle power oughtput. But anyway any model based on data gathered from real dynos would be much easier to implement.

Agreed. IMO that is all that would ever be required. When you drive a real car you don't need to understand about why the engine responds in a certain way, you only need to understand about how it responds under certain conditions.


Quote from Bogey Jammer :So, is the realism of the current torque curves shapes actually important if we consider that almost nobody had extracted them for 5 years? :nol2:

To the levels I stated above, yes I believe they are.

Remember producing a realistic sim does not require actual modelling of what is going on in the real world, only that the input/outputs of the model are correct in respect of real world environments.

This is a mistake I think a lot of people on here make. For example it is NOT required that every valve, spark, combustion wavefront is mathematically calculated by the sim in order for an engine response to be realistic. It is only required that input/output parameters of such things as engines and drive trains are correct. Each can be treated as a "Black box". This can be achieved far more simplistically from real world empirical measurements of (for example) engine blocks on dynos under various load conditions and at various atmospheric conditions. Sure still not simple, but far simpler than true modelling and just as accurate. At least in terms of a driving sim.

Remember, LFS is not an engine/car development package. Hence it is not required to fully model such things in order to give an accurate driving experience.
gezmoor
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Is it just me or are those curves way too smooth to be realistic?

No critisism of the work done, more a comment on a potential "unrealism" of LFS. With the exception of the BF1, I would be amazed if any of the "real" cars that the respective LFS models are based on have anywhere near as smooth power/torque curves. Especially, given that they are meant to be tuned versions.

Where are the flatspots, or step changes in gradient that would almost certainly exist in real life?
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gezmoor
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Quote from rc10racer :Looks like Renault could be in the shit now..



http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78647

That is not good. He isn't even denying any direct accusations of his own behaviour. Why on earth would he do that??, unless his sole objective is to be able to say he "didn't lie" to the enquiry??
gezmoor
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Quote from Becky Rose :...... Now we've wheeled the English language back over 10 years and dusted off hermaphrodite just for added old guard untollerance value, .......

What??

Ok, I don't consider myself to be living in a cave, but when exactly did the word Hermaphrodite become offensive? Except maybe in the secluded world of those people whom are ??

I can't say, I've ever seen any discussion over the use of the term in any mainstream forum. Which group of people have declared it to be perjorative exactly?


As for the issue in hand. Should the "leak" turn out to be substantiated, I for one think that the SA sporting federation could find themself in a lot of trouble. I find it very difficult to believe that someone can reach the age of 18 and truely believe they are a biologically normal female if clearly they are incapable of menstuation and there can be no doubt that they have gone through puberty.

I strongly suspect that both the athelete themself, their coach and the SA sporting body knew there was something "special" going on here.
gezmoor
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Quote from tristancliffe :If it's a public open network, then yes you can just connect. If it's a private (either residential or commercial) network then using it is illegal.

That's what I meant. Sorry if that wasn't clear. However, the definition of "public" network is that the owners have given indication that it's use is "public". So the ownus would be on you to prove that you knew you had permision to access the network, e.g. there were signs or you asked the propriortor of the cafe etc.

Basically, the only point I'm making is to make sure you're allowed to use the network before you do, else you could end up in trouble.

Vaguely on topic. Apple have always been guilty of pricing their products at the top end of market. That's where they see their products positioned, as quality rather than value items.
gezmoor
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Quote from Intrepid :That's bollox. Senna, back in the day, was considered a right arsehole by quite a large proportion of fans, especially British. Now he is considered an all time great of motorsport in terms of driving, and personality. Life is to short to worry about 'how you'll be remembered' because you have zero control over that!

All very true. A lot of people disliked Senna, especially after his (misinterpreted) God comment.
gezmoor
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Quote from mogster :I'm not a Hamilton fan, but he did what he had to do. Nothing to lose there, absolutely nothing. For the first time I actually hoped he would overtake someone. It would have given Barrichello 2 more point on Button.

Actually, I was gunning for him to pass Button also. For exactly the same reason.

I'm glad that Button is finaly able to show how good he can be, but in all honestly I would love Barrichello to take the championship.
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