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In contrast, how does an automatic transmission handle this situation, and how does it handle a downhill drive in general? Since we all know, we should drive down a slope in the lowest gear possible to preserve the brakes from overheating - does an AT do that, and is there a kind of "gyro" checking the car's angle, possibly forcing the transmission to change gears in a different way (=later)?

Throttle position, engine load, gear selection and speed determine how an automatic transmission handles the situation.

Usually D or Drive don't have a one way clutch engaged so the transmission will just freewheel and not increase RPM as the coasting speed increases. Manually selecting gears 1, 2, 3 or whatever usually allows the transmission to apply more clutchpacks which in turn enable a one way clutch which doesn't allow the transmission to free wheel and will increase RPM and create engine breaking as coast speed increases.

Lots of car enthusiasts on this forum...and a lot of them don't have basic knowledge...makes me scratch my head.

Quote from Rynno666 :

garble

All we have to do is look at your short post history to see the level of intelligence you carry...which is none.

Quote from didomusicuk :

As an addendum to my OP, I've just skidded the XR GT on the second-to-last corner on Blackwood GP at 40mph, on a setup that is meant to provide as much downforce as possible. I'm sorry but you can tell me this is one of the most realistic games out there, but I completely disagree - looking at that corner, it should be possible to take it comfortably, exiting at 50mph or so. Taken wide, its quite a nice corner to take at average speed before cutting back in for the finishing straight. I'm done with this now... Say what you like, this isn't a racing game! It does make a nice slow driving simulator though, perhaps has its uses in teaching people basic driving techniques, and nothing more. If it was possible to make huge maps to drive on, perhaps with automated traffic, etc, it would at least serve a purpose... I look forward to the VW being added at some point, and some better track editor features. That's this game's killer feature... the "racing" element sucks.

...have you ever driven a real car before? Where did you get this magical "50mph".

Have you ever taken a real car around an aggressive corner at 50mph? If so you'll understand that 50mph isn't "slow" and a lot of forces come into play...even at a measly 50mph.

Half you people live on an island with S14 DRIFT, why has no one pummeled him in the face yet?

I hope the physics update requires a dual core cpu and is not tailored to dated hardware from LFS's past.

Quote from rpmmatt :

1000times This^^^^.

I am surprised that people arn't complaining that they can't play online without being forced to have an internet service, or that they are forced to install Windows because LFS doesn't run on their Commodore C64's.

And this whole 3rd party software thing is a joke anyway these days. Almost any game you buy, whether off Steam or not, has additional DRM on top anway, like EA games needing an account, GTA4 needing GFWL installed and so on and so on. By comparison, Steam only is a fairly benign DRM system.

Steam is not a monoply by any stretch, other services exist such as Direct to Drive, and if a game is sold only on Steam that is down to the publisher not Steam.

Still waiting for all these downsides???
Shocking support service and questionable price practice(by publishers not Steam) I will agree to, hmm, occasional bugs, and Steam overload at major release dates about all I have trouble with.
How is Steam being DRM a downside?

...imagine if LFS implemented the 'Steam Cloud' so that your setups and configs where the same no matter where you logged in. But...I guess that's a negative thing too.

People disliking something just to dislike it...complaining about prices...that isn't steam's doing...that's the greedy developers who produce the games screwing their customers...

I think it's bull!@#$ that I have to use the internet to download LFS, it should magically be beamed to my computer with science magic. You know what else? The fact I have to be on the internet to use this forum is also complete rubbish...

FACTS > OPINION

Quote from LJF :

1. You can't start Steam in offline mode, you must start in online mode and then switch over.
2. Steam is required to run the game.
3. Steam is DRM - I'd argue a fairly intrusive one but it's marketed as a "service" (which it is).
4. Steam is an evil monopoly
5. Steam is not viewed in a negative light because of how widespread it is, if 10 years ago I told you you couldn't play your game unless you installed third party software and connected to the internet and updated your game you'd probably be more than a little angry. However nowadays with games like MW2 being exclusive to steam (who were then able to jack the price to 90USD) just about everyone has it and doesn't bat an eyelid at all the downsides - which have become "services".

Besides, it's up to the devs whether it's' sold on Steam, I hope not but it's not my choice

...you're first 3 are incorrect and your 4th and 5th are, again, opinion...not facts.

If you're mad about DRM then be pissed at the devs for making you activate LFS. Kind of hypocritical?

Quote from Jsm :

I probably should have been more clear, I meant that no page displayed by default (which appear to be loaded as soon as you load steam) uses flash.
The only pages on the entire steam site that use flash are specific store pages, and that is only for video. Flash does not actually run unless you start the video mind you.

Why even waste time debating on that topic...people are just hating Steam because it's something to hate on.

God forbid a company have ads for products they are selling on their own "Store" page...infact, how dear they even have images in their store. IMO all webpages should be purely txt so that my Lynx browser would stop having issues...let's not forget that you can completely avoid seeing any of that colorful mumbo-jumbo by never clicking on the "Store" tab...

Anyone with a negative viewpoint about this doesn't have any FACTS that back their OPINION...quite silly...

Quote from dadge :

but would you agree that you would be a great example that shows that not everyone in that age group is a kid or wrecker?

EVERYONE ON THE INTERNET IS A TROLL.

I can't think of any FACTUAL reasons that LFS on Steam is awful. I can think of a lot of opinionated reasons that are backed by nothing but opinions...

Selfish people are being selfish...everyone wants LFS to prosper and grow...Steam is an excellent outlet...LFS isn't ready quite yet...but it's an excellent outlet...

Quote from Tomba(FIN) :

why the ****? I'm actually feeling for the community in this case. Steam would just bring all the retarded 9year old kids in public servers to crash the shit out of others being pissed off after playing CS.
You don't find sim racers from communities like steam.

You clearly have no understanding of what Steam is...you made that quite obvious.

Not sure why there is so much negative bias towards Steam. What I do find is that those who have such extreme hate for it...and it is a childish ranting type hate (see above post)...haven't used it since HL2 was released...and a lot has changed since then.

The mature gaming community is much, much larger than the one that you focus on...maybe that's why you're such a sour puss...because you constantly focus on the negative aspects of something...instead of the myriad of reasons it's positive for LFS and it's community...

So like I said...if you don't want LFS to expand it's horizons and have the community grow with the help of tools that allow that to occur...it's being selfish.

"THIS IS MY TOY AND YOU CANT HAVE IT" ...thats how some of you sound.

Anyone voting no is being selfish.

a box of tampons shall be awarded to the op.

Hi.

I think...

From an outside standpoint...

After watching other games with long development cycles...

There needs to be updates and peeks...without it we're in the dark and we don't know if development stalled, is kicking ass and taking names or if it's been abandoned.

The devs should be excited that such a large group of people is so eager for the next installment of LFS. The last thing they should be doing is telling their loyal fans off with a cynical attitude. That's insane.

Without any updates people dwell. There's not much going on because people want more...isn't that a sign of a good product? To say that customers are a waste of resources is silly. Those same obnoxious voices that scream and shout when they feel their wronged will also spread praise and the word about whatever you're selling if you treat them nicely. It goes both ways.

I'm kind of frustrated. I don't play online, I just run single player when I have the chance...that's fun for me. Racing against myself regardless of how awful I am, lol. It's been a long journey..and it does feel stalled. Mainly because there's little updates that show progress. I just want to know what's going on.

The tire physics update is cool but there has to be visual goodies to show...something to stir some more buzz and hype...the positive kind,

I was googling some random stuff and I ran into this website that has these video contests...they have some pretty hefty prizes too...tv's and laptops and stuff...the site could use some work but it looks legit...worth checking out imo www.musicmatrix.com and http://www.musicmatrix.com/contests.php

just thought i'd share

Quote from BOSCHO :

That's the problem..

yeah..its a huge problem. an obnoxious problem.

Had this system for a month or so...started out mediocre but now its a speed daemon

Started out with an Athlon II X4 620 but I wanted more, so I went and picked up a Phenom II 1055T X6. I had a GTX260 but again, wanted more so I picked up a GTX480. Pretty pleased with this little box...and I do mean little, got it all crammed into a MicroATX case.

Gigabyte MA785GM-US2H
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T @ 3.15GHz w/ Stock cooler
G.Skill 4GB DDR2 800
eVGA GTX480
WD Black Series 640GB
In Win Z589T.CQ350TBL MicroATX Case
Corsair HX 750w PSU
92mm Panflow Exhaust Fan

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1246414

Quote from brt900 :

then wouldnt there be tyre smoke from the front tyre?

that would be ideal, yes

Quote from Nathan_French_14 :

I was talking about the way they are still spinning relatively fastly, when in reality, they would be at an almost stand still when looking at the inside wheel.

@ Drunk. I have a small suspicion the sounds may be dubbed over in typical GT Trailer style. If you watch the trailer again, the Tesla has a roaring engine sound....It's Electric...

it dawned on me that it may be showing that you can do drive-train swaps like in forza...and maybe that car was converted to awd?

I really want to see the game first hand, I have only seen it on youtube and on trailers that are prettied up anyway...

chrome with adblock.

Quote from SmashCLS :

While we wait we can all have fun in Indianapolis. I haven't finished the 200 laps yet, but i'm on my way, and tyre physics are f***king awesome.

one of the best racing games of all time...how you had to answer the questions out of the book in order to get into the game...early anti-piracy, lol!

Quote from Nathan_French_14 :

Well that's gonna really suck if it turns out to be true.

Can anyone explain to me WTF is going on with the front wheels on the TVR??

glad im not the only one that noticed that...I had to pause and rewatch it to make sure I wasnt seeing things...

other than that it looks impressive...the new tyre sounds are a big improvement too...neat neat neat...

Quote from aoun :

I agree that alot of apple people are "smug",

but dude, you need to relax with the whole anti-apple thing.

You say they are no good. good for you.

I say they are great, but i dont come here rambling on how good they are and how better they are compaired to nokia's or such.

You need an apple.

I haven't been anything but relaxed. I just voiced my opinion and then replied to a post that was directed at me.

Quote from freddyalek90 :

poo poo dribble

I knew someone was going to throw out the "you can't afford" ideal. That's another thing I forgot to mention, smugness. Most Apple users are smug about their products and have this overall impression that their products are better than everyone and anyone else, and that's too bad. You just went and proved that point.

Did I ever say I can't afford their products? No, you assumed it. Why even bring that up? I chose to spend my $550 on a phone that is isn't designed to be obsolete and who's software doesn't cripple the user experience.

I care if a company claims they invented and own IP that they did not create. I care when a company doesn't give credit where credit is due. Multitouch is a great example of Apple being Apple. So is the name 'iPhone' (was owned by Cisco) and 'iPad' (Was owned by Fujitsu and also Transform Tecnologia de Ponta). So you are incorrect when you say "btw, which big company doesn't, these days?" because no other company does what they do, they **** everyone else, claim ownership and then attempt to gain ownership though lawsuits and out of court settlements. No one cares because its Apple and they are flawless, right?

Oh boy. Here comes the influx of "OH THE JESUS PHONE". Why everyone flocks to Apple's sub-par products is beyond me. Why anyone supports a company that patent trolls and is building a walled garden around their products is beyond me. Why people stand behind Steve Jobs when he's an big-headed egotistical moron is beyond me. Why people buy products from a hypocritical company that has become something the used to despise is beyond me. Consumerism is pathetic...I'll continue to use my head and vote with my wallet and not support a pathetic company that has hoards of zealot followers who long for Steve Job's cock in their mouth...A bunch of sheep...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R706isyDrqI

Damn...who'd a thunk it...seems Apple has become their own nemesis...

Quote from anttt69 :

yeah you are, remember the adults who faked that balloon stunt illepall.
& the people that believed them.