11 is correct,

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Quote from JayEyeBee :

Team Name: White Water Radicals
Number: 11
Car: FXR
Drivers:
JayEyeBee, J. Bjornson, CAN
glenh, G. Heinrich, CAN
raceme75, K. Bennett
MindCrime, M. Craven, CAN
merc68k, J. Mason, CAN

Updated

Team Name: White Water Radicals
Number: 11
Car: FXR
Drivers:
JayEyeBee, J. Bjornson, CAN
glenh, G. Heinrich, CAN
raceme75, K. Bennett
MindCrime, M. Craven, CAN
merc68k, J. Mason, CAN

Last edited by JayEyeBee, Fri 29 Jan 2010, 02:44. Reason : driver change

Number 38

LFS Username: JayEyeBee
First and Last Name: Jonathan Bjornson
Country Code: CAN
Desired Number: 38
Team Affiliation: Saltwater Racing

I'm in.

Quote from tmehlinger :

If it were up to me, I'd take the fastest race lap, divide it by the first-place finishers' final lap, then multiply the 30 seconds by that number. I haven't done it myself, but I'd expect it to end up being around 10 or 15 seconds. That would be a lot more fair.

After doing the math the ratio is about .65, leaving a 19.6ish penalty. Still a drop from 6th to 20th, is that what you had intended?

Jonathan

I see that a precedent is being set here (penalty applied after a safety car finish situation), so I think a revisit of the penalty and the application should be made. Whether or not the penalty is deserved is one thing, but the application of the penalty here seems to punish the team more harshly than the crime warrants. Perhaps if the incident occured very late in the race, the penalty of 20 grid spots (or whatever) might be justified, but this incident occured very early, and, in my view, should have been dealt with early as well.
This appears to be a situation that hasn't occurred before in GTAL, nor, to my knowledge in MoE and IGTC and I don't think it happens often in real life.

I have a couple of suggestions for this type of situation.

1) Make it a flat grid penalty, 5 spots seems to a reasonable number. (Edit: I mean in the finishing order, not grid for next race. Yes, poorly worded)
2) Examine the situation before the final yellow. Decide how many positions they likely would have lost.

Jonathan

Last edited by JayEyeBee, Wed 23 Dec 2009, 21:06.

Lap and Replay time: Lap 69 2.59.30
Car(s) involved: 20 11
Brief description of incident: Under safety car #20 runs wide and off track and loses a position, then subsequently retakes.

Last edited by JayEyeBee, Sun 13 Dec 2009, 02:02.

I'm all for the guys in the top 15 of the current season being locked into the next round. It's certainly reasonable. I believe Niels' larger issue is the first round race, with the top 15 from last season already locked in. I think this particular number should be lower. My suggestion is the top 10 racers from last season.


Jonathan

Last edited by JayEyeBee, Sat 5 Dec 2009, 00:18.

#11

Team Name: White Water Radicals
Number: 11
Car: FXR
Drivers:
JayEyeBee, J. Bjornson, CAN
glenh, G. Heinrich, CAN
ajrose, A. Roselli, USA
merc58k, J. Mason, CAN
MindCrime, M. Craven, CAN

Name: J. Bjornson
LFSUsername: JayEyeBee
Number: 38

LFS Username: JayEyeBee
Real Name: J. Bjornson
Team: Saltwater Racing
Preferred Number: 38

Quote from ivantod :

You should be aware that I am inside.

Another screenshot where 11 is turning in, 04 is not and there is no overlap.

I would have been happy to accept whatever decision an adjudicator will make, without comment. Clearly this incident is not as clear as some of the other moves during the race, but we think a review is in order. You seem to be angry that you've been protested. Don't be, it's not personal. It's maneuver on the track we're protesting, not the person behind the wheel.

Jonathan

You should check the stream as well. There are chat 'Green Flag' messages that pop up that do not appear on any of the replays (when I view the backmarkers) I've seen. While I don't dismiss the possibility of a jump start, I really don't think the issue is fully known. The rush to judgement may need to slow down just a bit.

Keep in mind I'm speaking to the jump start issue and not the first turn contact.

Last edited by JayEyeBee, Sun 15 Nov 2009, 16:12.

#11

Team Name: White Water Radicals
Number: 11
Car: FXR
Drivers:
JayEyeBee, J. Bjornson, CAN
glenh, G. Heinrich, CAN
AjRose, A. Roselli, USA
merc68k, J. Mason, CAN
MindCrime, M. Craven, CAN

#11

Updated this post.

Quick question about racer name format (in game). I don't read anything about the use of colour in the rules, is this intentional?

Team Name: White Water Radicals
Number: 11
Car: FXR
Drivers:
JayEyeBee, J. Bjornson, CAN
Glenh, G. Heinrich, CAN
ajrose, A. Roselli, USA
merc68k, J. Mason, CAN

Reserve
mcraven, M. Craven, CAN

Last edited by JayEyeBee, Mon 19 Oct 2009, 21:41.

Quote from pik_d :

the original rules had qualifying sessions on both the sunday and friday before the race (as moe does it). I'd like to go back to this as my team is composed entirely of americans and qualifying is now around 2pm on friday afternoon, instead of 2pm on sunday and 2pm on friday.

I know most teams are mostly europeans so 7pm on friday isn't so bad, but for is it is.

also i think that two 30 minute sessions each day (same as moe) with half of the cars taking part in each session would work better with this switch.

+1 (except replace Americans with North Americans)

Last edited by JayEyeBee, Tue 13 Oct 2009, 22:38.

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