Yeah, and yet it didn't stop Andrea Moda from being the most laughable team in F1 and possibly the history of motorsports.

Not that I'm comparing Andrea Moda to Virgin F1. I have no real knowledge of Branson and I do know that Virgin F1 is in better shape than USF1 so it likely wont fall to Andrea Moda's level.

I'm just saying. The idea that "people can just throw money in motorsports" has been a dangerous one Again...look at Andrea Moda

Quote from N I K I :

I only wonder why everyone expect new things? Why can't you just enjoy the things that you have now? Why do you act as if you life depends on new content?

I guess if you just accepted stuff that you've gotten now (such as an amazing feeling for the car because of amazing FFB. pretty darn well tire physics and superb online accuracy when it comes to side by side racing) you would we very glad to go out and drive at any time.

Most of us enjoy driving and racing and we can't get enough of it. Current model of LFS really gives me good enough base to enjoy driving / racing at all times so why would I stop? I would stop only if I had no one to race...

P.S. @5haz: Nice to know that there is someone that enjoys Blackwood very much as many people moan about that too...

Because some very basic things that should be in a simulator are missing. I can still full throttle into a wall and be absolutely fine. I still fly into space touching, TOUCHING, a red barrier. People should retire after horrible crashes and can continue on fine.

Sound sucks, no engine damage, no clutch slip. Aero model is STILL incomplete. No night or weather change. No track temperature change. No dynamic wind

This is why I play rFactor as much as i hate rFactor too. The other sims have things that LFS doesnt but it works the other way around too. That's frustrating cause I want to only play LFS and not have to go to rF because i'm pissed at the retarded damage system in LFS and then get pissed in rF because rF has such a crappy collision and physics engine.

I could careless about the Scirocco. In fact, I would gladly trade THE ENTIRE ROCKINGHAM track (and I would absolutely love another oval...so that shows how much I desperately want improved systems and gameplay in LFS over content) and the Scirocco if we can just push LFS a little more on the gameplay side. Give me better sound, give me a complete aero model, and forgodsake fix the buggy collisions. Then I will be happy, then I could careless if LFS will gain new content.

Are these basic things just too much to ask? Yes, it's only 3 people, but it seems that they aren't even working on the (imo) more important things that make LFS...well...LFS. Toss out the Scirocco and Rockingham if it means giving us a solid sim that does all the basic well. I have yet to find a completely sim where everything is as it should be (even iRacing)

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Quote from zeugnimod :

What should they "learn"?

That this is how games die...it's a common death for millions of online based games before and it will be the #1 cause of death for the majority of online based games in the future and LFS is not immune to this.

Quote from zeugnimod :

I'm pretty sure the devs aren't delaying things intentionally and want to get the new stuff out ASAP as long as it works and is up to the standards of the devs. Unfortunately, this seems to take longer and longer.

I'm sure Nexon didn't intend to release Shattered Galaxy without any major updates for over 3 years. I'm sure Webzen didn't intent to keep Soul of the Ultimate nation in beta for over 1 year. I'm sure Blizzard intended to release Starcraft: Ghost. I'm sure 3D Realms intended to release Duke Nukem Forever someday.

Fact is, most of these cases as well as millions of others are cases where the developers have decided that they "did enough" or did not need to do more and the game died as a result. (shall I quote more? Space Cowboy Online (AirRivals), Rakion, Scion of Fate.) The devs HAVE to realize that the sim community is not necessarily that different from the MMO or the rest of the online gaming community.

Yes, the sim community will value quality engine and gameplay more than graphics compared to the average online gamer. But fact is, stagnant updating (if unbroken) will be the death of LFS just like all those other games.

Yes, I realize that it's only 3 people. Yes, I realize that they are recreating the physics engine for the Scirocco. But if this is delayed for any longer than half to 2 years. LFS will loose it's glory and the community will move on eventually. Maybe a few hardcore veterans will wait forever...but that will signify a game's death when there's no other group of players in LFS.

Of course this may not be anybodies' fault. The devs aren't a part of a mass company and they may have gained lives over the course of LFS. if that's the case, then LFS development will be excruciatingly slow...the same thing happens when a company adopts more than 1 MMORPG to develop. The result will usually be the death for the game but you cant really blame the LFS devs. It's just a fact of gaming really. Games come and go, rarely games last more than 5 years let alone 10. if it does, just enjoy it while it last.

I dont see myself as a nomad gamer. But the current state of online pc gaming has forced me to put things into perspective. When the time comes, I will move on and so will the rest of the non-hardcore LFS community (if that hasnt happened already). The devs better realize that the reason is the stagnant update and they can do something about it if they really cared about fixing this problem.

Oh...and just an FYI, Huxley (another Webzen game SURPRISE!) was due out in 2006 summer...I'm still currently waiting for it to get out of open beta Seriously research that game, all the info, shots and video will be from 2006 and it still isn't released yet LOL. Is it a surprise that no one cares about that game anymore? (yet i'm still waiting for it)

I wonder if anybody here defending the developmet speed realizes that 90% of Korean based MMORPGs or free2play MMORPGs in general are literally dead Because of very slow development speeds.

But then again most of you here probably don't even realize that poor development speeds have been the cause of death for so many MMORPGs or heck even standard (non-MMO) online based games throughout the entire online based game market...

Rakion, Gunbound, regnum online, shattered galaxy, beyond earth, infinity online, ferentus online, corum online, Saga Online, Face of mankind, AirRivals, starsiege:2845, the list is infinite to those who are aware of the online gaming market. I will mourn the day LFS is among those great or potentially great games.

1 year isn't bad. Heck I waited 2 years for lazy nexon to add A SINGLE new unit to shattered galaxy with no other new update (those of you who know what i'm talking about...yes I'm talking about those stupid lith-ubiks which turned out to be one of the worst units in the game and prompted me to quit)

LFS devs would be wise to learn from previous has-been online games and MMOs

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lfs username: lizardfolk
display name: Lizardfolk

No, I only have problem uploading with filedropper and file savr.

I even upload many times on youtube (1 and even 2 gb videos sometimes) and I've never had a problem.

As for the file.

It's just more convenient for me (and the person receiving the links) to download one massive file instead of clicking on multiple parts.

EDIT: Thanks Troy

Is there anyway to upload the entire archive without splitting it?

Filedropper and File Savr should be able to do it i just dont know why the flash keeps jamming each time I try

Quote from Jordan2007 :

Yes the game does help, But Dude.. Its a game..

Yeah...it's a game...so? What's your point? Just because it's a game then we all have to treat it like another CounterStrike?

The fact that LFS is a game is hardly reason for you to be screwing around really

Hi, I need to upload a file that's about 3-4 GBs. Filedropper's (5GB) just jamming on me and so is File Savr (10 GB).

Any advice on how I can get this file on the internet?

Hey...dont blame us, it's a bit hard considering that you share each other's intelligence

Quote from niels1 :

Thanks for your answer. It isnt I debatting your rules it feels just a bit unfair to me thats it. I mean, I see the loyalty towards the top 15 from last year. Nothing wrong with that.

But my issue is with the first round starting JayBee hit the nail spot on and thats what I ment. Why do it have to be 15 ?.
I havent seen any serie in Virtual or real life were you are garanteed for next year season. Yes places 1, 2 and 3 but thats normally about it.

And loyalty should be rewarded off course but I just find the number 15 very high with only 30 grid places. Again your rules, nothing wrong but as it is a suggestion thread I would point it out.

I defitnly would like to see myself rubbing wheels with some big guns but its highly unlicky it will happen

Well actually nascar guarantees the top 35 in position for the next season.

I don't see a problem with this as it's an incentive for the veterans to return however, it will be hell for 115 to squeeze into 15 spots....

Well Desire Wilson became the only woman to win an F1 race of any kind, when she won at Brands Hatch. But it wasn't the official F1 and in a series which mostly featured older F1 cars. (Forgot the name)

So...Branson wants attractive people right? Looks like Buemi has no shot at Virgin for the rest of his life

Quote from tristancliffe :

No, there have been several female official F1 drivers. Only one scored points, and not all even managed to qualify (in the days of pre-qualifying).

There were millions of people who never saw a F1 race because of pre-quali. But that specific one who didnt quali was Giovanna Amati and I only know her name because she's still talked about as the "last female in F1".

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Quote from johnnylightning :

Becasue I have not heard from My3id and it does not matter what my images for my ranks look like as the rank has an image in my eyes.

nice circular logic...

Anyways if you want to prove that you are serious, start by taking some criticism well. Other teams are criticized as well you know, but you should listen. I'm not asking you to bend over, but when this community does criticism often times they aren't doing it for absolutely no reason. Second, try joining some high profile leagues. I can guarantee you'll be more respected if you can actually qualify in iTCC. Thirdly, race cleanly casually or in leagues, even if it's a lesser league.

I'll wish you good luck because you will need it. I will say this though, I've always found the Johnny Lightning cars better than hot wheels but I do believe they are defunct so I doubt you get support from them...

Johnny Lightning...is your team based on that now defunct hot wheels competitor? I've always liked their fantasy stock car designs lol

http://www.jlcollector.com/

the car will probably force him into F1 mediocrity unless he can pull a fisi podium.

...and people say that I'm too harsh on LFS's retarded damage system

Team Name: Optix Racing
Number: 13
Car: XRR
Drivers
xtraction, S. Williams, GBR
proa2414, V. Verstreken, BEL
ZaccoWacko, Z. Weiss, USA

Reserve:
lizardfolk, J. Wang, CHN

Quote from lizardfolk :

• LFS Username : lizardfolk
  
• Real Name : JJ Wang
  
• Team : Aether Optix Racing
  
• Preferred Number : 61
  

Lap done, replay uploaded

LFS username: Lizardfolk
Real name: JJ Wang
Number: 222
Team: Velocità Racing

This kinda makes me feel bad that I've been rejected a while back

I only see a reason to remove it if we get stock cars

The faster class bypassing the chicane while slower class using chicane racing at the same time is an interesting idea...has this been done before in real life?

Quote from GreyBull [CHA] :

Jawohl!

Hurrah!!!!!!!!!!

A couple of our members are currently looking at iTCC. We have some people with great pace that would like to show it off lol

Last edited by lizardfolk, Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:05.

Quote from deggis :

To be honest 'no one' here cares what he does now. If certain other likely soon-to-be ex-F1 mumbler jumped to Nascar, then that would create a lot interest.

Yeah, I guess Salo's been out of the picture for too long