I've done anime cars before. I'm willing to help out if you dont mind

Me thinks that LFS ppl are getting too bored

So...ummm...how do you decide the winner?

LOL I play Second Life as well

Anyways interesting new team. I wish you good luck. I am curious of your team skin be good to see a comicbook style team skin

As much as I hate Tony Steward, that was Busch's fault. 100%, he blocked him once, that was fair, if you come back in front of him you can't expect the other guy to just brake and ruin his race.

I suggest an "Oval Masters" league in which we have 4-6 different combos.

Either that or we get an fz5 oval league cause I'm definitedly up for that

The lights are pretty useless IMO. It would be cool to show off to your friends/girlfriends/roommates/family/dog/etc who dont really have any idea of what sim racing is (my roommate was impressed by my G25 by itself as plain as it looks to me). However, if the force feedback is improved from the G25 I will definity try to fork out some money for that. But besides thatt I think I'll pass. I can probably guess it'll be more expensive than the G25 if this thing is actually real

5 years is wonderful! Grats and good luck in your future

Quote from G!NhO :

Welcome, getting crowdy Lizard.

Not really a few ppl have left. To drifting nonetheless

CLOCKWORK WELCOMES S. WILLIAMS



Clockwork Motorsports welcomes Sean Williams (xtraction) to the team. Thank you for your interest in us and we hope you enjoy your stay in our comfy garage

Quote from SmegFirk :

QUESTION FOR THE ORGANISERS

Do you require the graphics on the skins that are on your website for cars running on the oval race? Or are those just for the GP event?

Thank you.

I have another question, is the GP race going to be held at the same time as the 350?

Quote from Ori :

should have been more precise:

- a series running only on oval (needn't be based on IRL or smth like that)
- preferably open wheelers (FO8 obviously is the best choice)
- of course you must advertise it! otherwise the whole thing is pointless
- the schedule would be like this:
25.05: "chicagoland"
19.08: "indianapolis"
28.10: "michigan"
...

- with the 400 and 500 you already have the attention of some of the best oval racers, which seems to be a good base from which the series would start

@ndr: sorry for maltreating this thread guys

Ya, what you are asking is quite different lol. But an indycar league in LFS would be pretty cool IMO. You can potentially have 4 ovals.

1 - KY1
2 - KY1R
3 - AU Short track oval (Martinsville lyt)
4 - BL3 Short track oval (Another short oval lyt)

And possibly add 2-4 Road Courses. I vote:

1 - Aston North
2 - South City Chicane

Actually...that right there would make a very good Indy league Short track ovals with FO8 will be a riot

Quote from Ori :

Actually wanted to wait with this until end of CART season but now the attention is better:

How about a purely oval series?

I don't understad why there has been none until now - or have i missed anything?

There has actually been quite a few oval series. Its just that people either don't pay attention or the series is poorly advertised. Or sometimes ppl just aren't interested.

There was LFSCAR that was runned by FM. Falcon tried an xrt oval league: Kyoto Nights but no one was interested. Then I founded StormCup which turned into the XSCC and it's currently running now.

There was also Rising Star and L-ASCAR that just recently finished their season.

Just head over to XSCC its good fun . Also I hear there might be another gt oval league coming up so keep your eyes peeled

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Quote from Pablo Donoso :

As long as there is competition to be #1, there will always be someone that will cheat to try to obtain it. If they want to cheat the system, I'm not gonna say anything about it then, it doesn't affect anyone except the ones that do it, but if they want to cheat to beat other players, then I would say something.

meh, it's just a personal choice, I think it's wrong. Draft and pass is the way it should be. If people can't do that, it shows everyone else that they only care about themselves, not about others. That's not cool with me, those selfish b-tards. I always think of others, and make sure everyone's best interests are kept in mind.

I'm bumping someone ahead of me to give the person ahead of me a boost instead of myself...ya that's selfish alright

Quote from Pablo Donoso :

According to Newman Haas Racing, their test center said that IRL cars can produce enough downforce to drive on the roof of a tunnel, without falling, @ around 100mph.

Well...people do say that Indy is crazy

Too bad these are sprint races. I wish the races would be longer but oh well

(PS, I got my questions answered)

Excuse me but exactly when is the races in regards to GMT?

Last edited by lizardfolk, Wed 1 Jul 2009, 01:39.

Alright I'm interersted this time. I hear the next season is starting up. When are you guys going to start the next season?

I am interested in entering the 350
- FZR
- Pilot : 0 lizardfolk
- Team Clockwork Motorsports

(PS, plz give me a msg if Race 1 is cancelled)

Last edited by lizardfolk, Tue 30 Jun 2009, 18:45.

Hey, a long time ago I saw a video with a very neat IndyCar intro. I think it was Milka Duno's qualifying run for the 07 or 08 Indy 500.

I'm not interested in Duno herself so to speak but I would like to see that intro again...unfortunately I could not find that video or any other IndyCar video with that intro.

It's an older intro around 07 or 08 and it shows a CGI IndyCar on a speed test treadmill and cuts to real IndyCar footages with epic orchestrated music.

If someone can find that intro (idc what video is about i just need the intro), I would appreciate it

Lizard

EDIT: Ah, I think the intro was in Milka Duno's 2007 Indy 500 qualifying highlights that was on youtube. If anyone can find that video that would be great

Last edited by lizardfolk, Mon 29 Jun 2009, 20:53.

At the risk of sounding patronizing I have to ask everyone to calm down a little. It is rather unfortunate that Jeffy's marvelous words before the race fell on deaf ears as everyone just scrambled as if the race was only 20 laps anyway. Personally I am still very very frustrated and like many here I want justice (my race lasted one straight and half of T1 for godsake!!!!). However, I took a step back decided to hold my tongue about this incident or any of other clockwork's incidents that saw all three of us get into someone else's mess.

So...why am I bring this up? Very simple, this is gradually turning into a witch hunt. Although we're all not yelling "off with their heads" yet, I ask you (and the admins) to be cautious on reviewing these incidents. Many of these are really just racing incidents...sure you can argue that you must be careful. But keep in mind, we're in a 30 car oval race with no spotters. This is the main thing, no spotters. Which means what we have left is just our senses and intuition. That's really quite insane when you think about it. I mean sure, you can diligently look, but unless you are racing in chase view the entire race there is really no way that you can be 100% sure of where everyone is around you. Unless of course we have a competent spotter...which we dont.

So what happens? This is a long race, after a while we start to use our intuition much more than actual looking, then from this we start assuming and it is the assuming that's what gets people wrecked. But tbh, what are we really suppose to do? No competent spotter and our only means of driving safetly is just looking around? This would probably cut it if it's 10-20 competitiors but we're looking at 30 cars and all of which are competently fast...We're all human who've been basically thrown in the dark with the pack scrunched up going 3 and sometimes 4 wide. Mistakes, I'm not excusing stupid mistakes or suicide runs, but honest and reasonable mistakes will be made. We're not psychics, and heck most of us aren't real racecar drivers and even the pros on oval make the same mistakes that some people made during the 500

I've gotten the feeling early on that racing incidents were being viewed as deliberate wrecking or incompetency in the practice sessions, and I've talked to Clockwork guys about this as well, but I'm breaking the silence now because things have gotten so heated recently. Angry that your race was unjustly cut short? Unfortunately, that's just the nature of oval racing. One mistake, nay one unlucky situation and you're out. Look at some of the NASCAR/IndyCar wrecks and you'll see similar if not identical wrecks in the 500 (as well as the finger pointing and frustration that follows).

Of course, some wrecks are inexcusable. I'm not saying that everyone was just involved in unavoidable racing incidents and no one's to blame for anything. But, again, all I'm saying is to just not blur the line between incompetency and hard racing gone wrong however fine that line may be.

Lizard

Last edited by lizardfolk, Mon 29 Jun 2009, 08:17.

Quote from Pablo Donoso :

The SCCA sanctioning body will revoke anyone's race license for any class for pulling that stunt in any other league other then Nascar, that is if they are caught doing it. It is in the rules, and forbidden, not to mention dangerous.

The rule covers it like this "intentional contact with intention to gain position by means of an unfair advantage." (sorry the SCCA loves to sound like lawyers, everything has to be specifically worded or people would try to get out of race infractions by some technicality lol)

I've seen touring cars bumpdraft before...BTCC specifically although I forgot who it was as I dont watch BTCC enough to be able to recite drivers by memory.

Also...again...bump drafting first STARTED from the SCCA in a touring truck race. I dont think that the SCCA completely disallowed it. Case in point it's allowed in Spec Miata:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_GvSqrov0c

Quote from Pablo Donoso :

Besides, people that bump draft usually are the ones blocking or crashing others, because they don't have good sportsmanship skills, if they did, they wouldn't be doing that. I'm not singling anyone out though, that is just from my own observations.

What's wrong with blocking? Much like bumpdrafting as long as it's done in a reasonable fashion i see absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to defend your line.

I'm sorry if I dont want to be a compete sitting duck and automatically give the inside line if I'm fast enough to hold it.

Falkes can you make an AUS template for the LFSCART?

But besides that here's Test Driver's #62

Quote from TFalke55 :

If lizard is okey with this, you can take his car together with his number, as #61 belongs to Clockwork Motorsports. For the Clockwise 300 lizard can join again.

Ya team signs up the numbers.

Luke you are now in the 61. Falkes james used to have the 102. I would like to retain that number in case he would come back or if there's three people entering for the 300.

I'm still thinking if I'll make a return (which i might cause it's an oval anyways) so I would like to hold that number for Clockwork.

If everything's ok here's the new confirmed lineup:
http://clockworkmotors.freeforums.org/post610.html#p610

If any other clockwork members would like to return I'll update asap