Quote from STF :

What would you do if your car broke, you go to a mechanic, he tells you "it's ONLY going to cost 50 bucks".. and when you come to pick it up, with 50 bucks.. he asks for 300? that`s how i see it.

Well it's more like the mechanic saying "well, the base part cost $50, and I'm unsure how many hours of work and the amount of money the other parts are going to cost, so don't worry about it for now, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it." Then the person underestimates to the extreme, and when asked for more than he thought he would have to pay, isn't willing to negotiate.

Quote from Shadowww :

GTX 260 is VERY good choice

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16814150361 - XFX one, around 900MB of VideoRAM (you won't need more, trust me).

Yeah i was looking at that. I've always liked XFX's quality, plus their double lifetime warranty. I'll be looking for something of similar performance come June

Quote from dadge :

what's still shit? the 8800GT?

I think he meant the gts 250. I don't understand how anyone can say that card is shit, when many gamers are still using old cards like the 7600gt (:shy. I do plan on using a bunch of AA, though, so I might spend the extra $ for the GTX 260 216.

Quote from Shadowww :

Yes, I did.

Edit: I am dumb, I forgot mine GFX card

hahaha. What did it come to after added?

Quote from Shadowww :

GTS 250 = 9800GTX+, not 8800GT.
Edit: beaten.
MijnWraak, for me that calculator scored 200W PSU Mine CPU + 9800GT uses more than 200W

You sure you put everything in?

edit: I put in my current hardware, and got 343 watts. I got a 305 generic watt PSU in there running okay. O_O My last 350 watt died from a surge.

Quote from Shadowww :

Hi!

I have two thingies to say:

1. Why 512MB and not 1GB GTS 250? 1GB will be more GTA IV- and future-proof.
2. I don't think 400W PSU will be enough to power this, get 550W Corsair or 600W OCZ PSU instead.

I put in the details in the PSUcalculator (http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp) and it came out to about 390. And thats with 15% aging. So considering it has a 30a +12v single rail, and it's a corsair, it should be good to go.

I didn't think I needed to get 1gb for the resolution I'm using, but I might spend the extra couple of bucks.

@nadeo gts 250 is a 9800 gtx+, which is a 8800gts. A decent amount better than 8800 gt. The gts 240 is the 8800gt. But like I said, the graphics card WILL change come June when prices have gone down on better performance cards and new ones that come out in the ~$130 area.

Ordered the case (antec three hundred) today, to take advantage of the free shipping, even if they did increase the price $5. Also updated the list with a few different parts.

It was my understanding that the 9800gtx+ was manufactured with 65nm tech, but the gts 250 was the one with 55nm. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty certain. (btw, would it be worth getting 1gb version instead of 512mb if I run 1440x900?)

on topic: XFX 7600 GT XXX

Probably not enough. No such thing as too much

It's a 9800gtx+, but it's chip is manufactured with 55nm tech instead of 65nm, which means less power and less heat. Also the 1gb version's board is about 1.5 inches shorter. It also performs better.

try these pages:
http://techgage.com/article/ev ... ce_gts_250_superclocked/1

Last edited by MijnWraak, Wed 15 Apr 2009, 23:21.

250 watt is pushing it a bit. It's anyones guess wether it would work or not 14a on the 12v line is pretty decent though, so might as well worth a shot and if it doesn't work return it since you're buying it in person.

~sold~

Last edited by MijnWraak, Fri 17 Apr 2009, 20:42.

Have you tried eBay yet?

Yeah the 4th core is usually very unstable, and would probably need to be underclocked. I don't do enough multitasking for there to be a need to lower game performance to get a fourth core.

Quote from dadge :

the mobo you spec'd has onboard graphics. this is not needed and could save you a few $
this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16813128376 is a similar price and has more "usable" features like firewire.
for an extra $14 you can double your ammount of memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16820178219
i would also try for a quad phenom over a triple core.

Thanks for the input. Didn't think twice about the onboard graphics, but that mobo is $5 cheaper (woo 8 usb ports), but has quite a few useless pci x1 slots... I've been debating w/ myself whether to go 64 bit or 32 bit O/S, so unsure about the ram for now. And my money is already being stretched to get to the 720, probably as far as I can go, plus some got the 4th core unlocked so, who knows.

Last edited by MijnWraak, Sat 11 Apr 2009, 20:00.

:bump: updated first post.
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darn! I thought it was for the VWS realease . I got too excited.

I blame blizzard. I got on every little hint of Diablo III, and that actually paid off ^-^

Quote from rc10racer :

The current phemon II's have been out for while but the new batch of AM3 cpu's are not far from being released. Infact the newest x4 955 is being released on the 20th.

ah okay, I thought when you said am3s, that the other ones were not .

know if any of the new ones going to be in 100-150 USD price range?

Quote from rc10racer :

I would wait for the newer Phemon II 's (AM3 ones) since i heard good things about them.

They've been out for a while, afaik.

right, saved me $6 and they look/perform better

Is the $60 investment for a phenom II x3 720 in the same mobo worth it?
edit: er, actually realized that PII's only come in am3, and those mobos cost quite a bit more. So, any oher alternatives?
edit2: agh, wait. So AM3 CPUs work in am2+, but am2+ cpus dont work in am3 mobo. Right. So, Should would upgrade from 7750 to II 720 be worth it?

Last edited by MijnWraak, Thu 9 Apr 2009, 21:54.

Right, so my current computer is getting quite old since I got it in ~2003. It's starting to get slow just doing simple tasks like opening video files (100% cpu, doesn't respond). So, I'll get a "loan" and get a new computer in June and work it off over the summer. Budget is still pretty low (~$500), so CPU did suffer a bit. Would have gone with Phenom II 720, but I figured if I went with that, I might as well have gotten an am3 board with ddr3, and then as I do that something else bottlenecks it and the price ends up skyrocketing. I've settled on this, so far. Just wanted to have it checked over by others to see if anything else would work better. I'm mostly getting it because there are finally some good games coming out on the PC: Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, Cities XL, among others. Don't want to have to run it in 800x600 res with very low graphics :P

CPU: AMD Phenom II 710 2.6ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16819103648

GPU: XFX GTS 250 512 MB. (Will most likely change by June)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16814150357

PSU: Corsair 400w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16817139008

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3 AMD 770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16813128376

RAM: G.SKILL HK 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16820231219

Case: Antec 300 Ordered
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16811166030


So yeah, any recommendations are appreciated.

Last edited by MijnWraak, Sat 18 Apr 2009, 22:51.

Virus w/ rigs of rods is my guess.

Quote from Riders Motion :

Since I got my new laptop a few weeks ago I tought I'd try to tweak the settings to the best so LFS looks godlike. Here is how it comes out following Jack's advices.

Maybe I'm too perfectionist but I stil see some jaggies around the roof. Is it only me?

4x to 32x is the same thing. With 32x AA I get like 30FPS but no graphic imrprovement.

Invest in a higher resolution screen then

Quote from Vinnylegends :

No. Because he did reply after maybe 3 months after every email.

Maybe he doesn't check his emails often. Maybe should have asked for a different form of communication.

:X