a lot of requests here in the meantime :-)

i will add another request, if anyone has an invitation to share, please send it to :

[email protected]

Thanks in advance

Octane

I cannot try in LFS at the moment, but when you rotate the view a bit in the custom view, doesnt it achieve the effect you want ?

IIRC the right mouse button resets view to center (at least for freelook with mouse)

Quote from Becky Rose :

If they are then the authors of GTR2 stole them from the same place I did, which is a Stunt Car Racer remake by an indi developer. It's entirely feasable that the author of that stole them from somewhere else too

Sorry for being OT, but Becky can you please tell me the name of this Stunt Car Racer remake ? I really want to try it, because i loved this game on the good old Amiga (actually the first game i played in multiplayer with 2 computer via a serial cable link).

Thanks in advance,

Octane

would it be possible to implement a function to export your current control settings to a script file ? (buttons, axes, views, ...) Could be handy to start editing from such a exported script file, maybe you could also choose which settings to export. Just an idea that came to my mind, what do u think ?

there is a "h" missing in the link

the correct link is :

http://24h-rennen.de

I still get freezes every now and then, but its very random. sometimes i can play for hours and sometimes LFS freezes after a few minutes. I played around with minimum sleep and i think i am getting less freezes with 10 ms (instead of 5 being used before).

I also tried using old Catalyst drivers (5.11) but this makes no difference. Today i tried switching off Antialiasing and Anisotropic Filtering, LFS ran okay almost all the day, but in the evening i had one freeze again.

I heard most people having these freezes have an nforce chipset on their motherboard, maybe this is a hint ? I am using a nforce 2 chipset (Asus A7N8X).

I am going to try another Gfx-card at the weekend, maybe it helps...

I experience the exact same behaviour you described since version S (and the later versions).
Yesterday was the worst day so far, LFS crashed every few mins, and my PC is not overclocked in any way,
i never had a single crash or freeze of LFS with any of the older versions.
I was racing in South City with FXO (i don´t know if its related, i got freezes on other track/car combos as well, but not so often).

When it happens the screen freezes (showing the same screen all the time) and the sound loops the last 0.5 sec again and again. A few seconds after that the gfx-card is giving no VGA-Signal anymore (Monitor switching to standby-mode) and the PC totally freezes (only reset-button helps)
. On a few occasions my gfx-card seem to recover after a few seconds (maybe due to the ATI-GPU-recovery function in the driver), but mostly the PC totally hangs then.

MY PC:

Athlon XP 3200+ (Barton i think)
ATI Radeon 9500 pro with Catalyst 6.4 drivers (without CCC)
1024 MB MDT DDR400 Memory CL2,5

LFS is working fine, maybe you misunderstood me (sorry for my bad english).

I have 2 versions of the font file in the LFS/data/abc folder :

One is named abc.abc (from the actual LFS-S2-patch, including new codepages)
and the other is named cba.abc for the modified S2-Viewer.exe and is copied from the S2-Viewer.

Seems to work really fine for me.

I found a way to have the viewer working in the LFS directory.
I searched for the name of the font in the S2Viewer .exe (abc.abc) with a Hex-Editor. I replaced the abc.abc string with cba.abc (for example) and copied the original S2-Viewer font file and renamed it to cba.abc and placed all the viewer files and directories in the original LFS directory (including the "new" fontfile). Viewer is now working in LFS directory.

Its not causing any problems (yet), so i think its safe.

I also had a Radeon 9250 after my 9800pro had died (it was cheap and i thought it will do the job), but the 9250 card is really crap. I replaced the new 9250 with a old 9500 pro and even this old gfx-card is much faster than the 9250.

There is no resource for .raf files i am aware of, but you can download any hotlap from LFS-World (singleplayer replay file *.spr) and convert it to a .raf file.

To do so, log in to LFS-World, double-click on S2-Hotlaps, select the WR (world-record)-tab, select a track and click any displayed time to save the .spr to your harddisk. Copy that .spr to your LFS/data/spr folder. Start LFS, select replays/singleplayer and start thge replay of the .spr file. While replaying the .spr-file press ESC and select "Output to RAF" in the lap before the lap you want to export. The number of the fastest lap in the .spr is displayed in the upper right corner. After the replay of the wanted lap, a .raf file is saved
in the LFS/data/raf folder.

Hope this helps...

I just noticed today that the LFS-Icon displayed in adressbar and tabs is replaced by a vBulletin icon. Something must be wrong there.

(Using Firefox 1.5)

After reading the problems with the 5.12/5.13 drivers i was "afraid" of installing them, but yesterday i tried them and got the following results :

Catalyst 5.11
---------------------------------------------------------------
2006-01-07 21:17:09 - LFS
Frames: 4297 - Time: 103135ms - Avg: 41.664 - Min: 27 - Max: 57

Catalyst 5.13
---------------------------------------------------------------
2006-01-07 22:55:56 - LFS
Frames: 4062 - Time: 103590ms - Avg: 39.212 - Min: 24 - Max: 55


So i experienced a minimal fps-loss of 2-3 frames. (I think its within measuring tolerance)

Its done withe the unofficial LFS benchmark.spr, but with my current config file.

I am NOT using the CCC (biggest POS ever) and my CPU has no dual-core / HT (Athlon XP 3200+).

Mirrors are are always turned on (real mirrors + virtual mirrors).

The Gfx-Card is quite old : ATI Radeon 9500 pro, all test done in 1360x1024x32 with 4xAA and 4xAF.

Last edited by Octane, Sun 8 Jan 2006, 14:04.

Quote from MadCatX :

Check your real system clock, if they're going too too fast, it is not LFS problem.

I have got a similar problem with my computer. In about 1 out of 10 computer restarts my real time clock is running 20% too fast. Then every timer in Windows runs 20% too fast, including LFS (you can see the mentioned online "hickups" then, offline its just running too fast) and any other game and the Windows Clock. Usually the problem is gone after a restart and even the time is corrected by the BIOS-RTC, so that after a restart the fast running clock displays the right time again. I dont know what is causing this. Its an ASUS Mainboard with nForce2-Chipset and AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (Barton).

Quote from Scawen :

I can't reproduce this, and i can't see any reason why F1, F3 and F6 would behave differently from any other F keys.

Could it be that those keys are taken by some other program running in the background?
Can you try a previous version and see if you get the same problem?
Does anyone else get this problem?

Oops, sorry, it was indeed another program. I installed a trial-version of WinDVR a few days ago and it placed a scheduler in the autostart, so i removed it and everything is fine again...

With P8 i can´t use my CTRL+F1, CTRL+F3, CTRL+F6 keys anymore. All other keys work fine. I am using a german Windows but in LFS i am using english translation, but the bug still exists if i switch to german translation.

Another thing, that might be a bug is in the new textbox when you hit "T" :

If you press one of the new buttons to select codepage (msg-codepage or def-codepage) and select "cancel" in the codepage-selection-box, any F-key pressed after that will be sent, but the textbox will not be closed as usually (it will be closed if you dont select one of the new buttons before).

Another thing i noticed since P5 (i think) is, that i lose my ForceFeedback when i install a new patch. This never happened before. To get ForceFeedback back, i have to turn it off and on again in the options/controls screen once, after that it just works fine again (My wheel is a Microsoft FF).


BTW: Thanks for avoiding the beep on Scroll-Lock...

I haven´t tried for myself, but maybe this program is useful for you :

http://atzitznet.dyndns.org/Joy2Mouse3/index.html

originally its done to move your mouse-pointer with your joystick, but i think you can assign any axis/button to any key/mouse-movement you want.

I have a problem with a special key in LFS in the latest patches :

I was used to have my "Scroll Lock"-Key on keyboard as a "Push to Talk"-button in Teamspeak (because its not used by any other program).
It never interfered with LFS before the latest P-Test-patches.
I tried Teamspeak now with the latest P7-testpatch and when i press (and hold) my Scroll-Lock-Key i repeatedly get the "not-assigned-button-error-sound" in LFS (I hope u get what i mean), so its impossible to use it as PTT-Button anymore.
I think it is related to the new language extensions, cause it worked before and maybe the recognition of the keypresses is different than before.

Is there another solution to the problem than mapping a different button ?

This looks exactly the same as the problem i had with my Radeon 9250.

Try my solution offered in this thread :

http://www.lfsforum.com/showthread.php?t=1236

I am in, too

I checked the deb.log now, and it is filled with ~1500 "could not find host messages", thats about 17 times for each host.

i attach my last deb.log here.

Ok, i just checked the Demo-servers another time :

LFS says that it is checking 91 servers, can join 88 servers, noreply 2 wrong version 0

LFS-World says there are 101 servers online, should the number not be the same ? (I checked directly after closing LFS).

I dont know how the serverlist is ordered while checking the list, but the flooding of the "could not find host messages" begins after just checking a few of the 91 displayes hosts.

The main problem is, that LFS never finishes checking the hosts. Otherwise we simply could join existing servers on the list (As said before "join a specific host" is still working)


Edit: i know where the difference between LFS-World and LFS comes from. I looked for the number of all servers in LFS-World and not only for 0.5P / 0.5P2 servers. So the number of 0.5P / 0.5P2 matches the number displayed in LFS.

Last edited by Octane, Thu 13 Oct 2005, 10:44.

Strange thing, the same problem still persists for me. I get at least 15 "could not find host" messages (only the last 15 are shown on screen like in chat history, i think). LFS never finishes checking for hosts.

I tried to join a few servers by entering their names in "join specific host" and it works there, so the servers must be there.

Maybe it would help, if the name of the host, that LFS can´t find, is displayed in the message too.