You'll really enjoy it, it is a big step up from other wheels (except the G25). However, it will probably take a while to get used to it, especially if you increase the wheel lock.

When you get it use the Profiler software to tailor the FFB settings depending on the game.

Have fun!

How about this for an idea..?

All interested parties meet at a specified time and place just outside oxford. From there you have a no holds barred fight to the death, with the last man standing continuing on to pick up the race frame.

(At which point you find out the OP has already given it to a friend....!)

Honestly, don't bother. Just keep racing fair on popular servers and you will eventually build up a list of fellow racers you get along with. From there you can join an established team or set up a new one.

This kind of idea almost never takes off, especially if the team leader doesn't have an S2 licence. No S2 means most drivers won't give your team a second thought.

Quote from CR33PING D3ATH :

Just a quick question, what have all of you set your wheels too?

Force effects:- 105%
Spring:- 0%
Damper:- 0%
Rotation:- 900deg
Return to centre:- off

Wheel turn compensation in LFS set to 1.00 - allows correct lock for each car.

This is fun and realistic to me, however I sometimes reduce the wheel turn amount depending on the combo.

Signed. I'd love to live next to Castle Coombe, heck I'd even take some free track day time as ''compensation'' for the noise!

You need to set the wheel turn percentage in 'game controllers' in windows control panel as well as in the game. My advice is to use the Logitech Profiler software and set up a profile for each game you play. That way, when you launch a game your preferred wheel turn/button/FF settings will be applied automatically.

Also, if you set the wheel to 900deg in the control panel, set 'wheel turn compensation' in LFS to 1.00. This allows the G25 wheel lock to match that of whatever car you are driving.

Oh, and buy S2. Your G25 will cry if you don't..

Hope this helps.

In a word:- No.

In two words:- Hell no!

''Hey, is that Harjun in his new Porsche?!''
''I think so, just try to ignore him...''

Good point. Luckily I live not far away from the industrial estate housing the overclockers.co.uk retail premises. If any stock comes in I want, I just drive down and pick it straight up at the online price.

Quote from Jakg :

And E2180 isn't that badly underpowered, although if your not going to overclock i'd get a faster CPU (ie a E6550/E6750), however you could drop the GTS in favour of the faster GT.

The GT is faster, even though its a cheaper card? Bargain, shame Christmas is fast approaching. Anyone want to buy me one?....



....No takers?

Quote from daddyo :

Quick question...


I was told my wisdom teeth are residing under my back molars... and they may push out that way...

Is this a bad thing...

Ok. Sometimes your wisdom teeth don't have enough room to 'erupt' into the mouth. These so called 'impacted' wisdom teeth can do several things:-

1. Stay where they are 'beneath' the back molars, occurs when very little room. Usually symptomless but can sometimes be involved in a cyst later on.
2. Partially erupt into the mouth. These can cause inflammation of the surrounding gums and decay of the adjacent tooth. (what happened to yoyoML). Treatment is usually extraction of the tooth. This is likely what your dentist was talking about.
3. Fully erupt into the mouth but in a strange position. Rare. Only usually happens if the wisdom tooth is impacted and the adjacent molar tooth has been extracted, leaving the wisdom tooth 'entering the mouth sideways'..

Don't worry about the wisdom tooth displacing your other teeth, or pushing them out of the way, this doesn't happen. What could happen is slight destruction of the roots of the adjacent molars, but this is unlikely. Your dentist will review things over time and monitor any changes.

Conclusion:- Its common, don't worry too much, and see your dentist regularly to keep an eye on things.



To Kev:- It will be just outside Birmingham, don't want to be too specific as don't want to tempt fate.. As a vocational trainee all work is done through the NHS.

Last edited by Origamiboy, Thu 22 Nov 2007, 11:21.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Harjun, the E2180 is vastly underpowered compared to the rest of the machine.

True. I'd plump for the 320mb gts and put the extra cash towards the processor, possibly a 6600.

Quote from niall09 :

Origamiboy - Are you a dentist by anychance?

Yes, I start work in practice from February providing all goes well...

Quote from The General Lee :

Bum bum bum Tssssh

I'm here all week, try the veal!

Quote from The General Lee :

Mine metioned a "recluse" and I thought Steven Fry was a recluse for a bit.

Is my tooth camp and clever?

Could well be. Its common in wisdom teeth!



(sorry )

Absolutely shocking display. Why does McLaren insist on making us play a system at odds with the domestic game? Also, the lack of heart and fight on display from the players was extremly disappointing.

IMO until we can grasp the fact that we just ain't that good we will go nowhere fast.

''Like a glove...!''

Ok, thought I'd clear up some of this ''dentists' code'' for you all. Pay attention.

When charting your teeth, the dentist starts by calling a number denoting the quadrant that the tooth is in:-

1= Upper right
2= Upper left
3= Lower left
4= Lower right

The second number the dentist calls is the tooth in question, 1 being a central incisor through to 8, a wisdom tooth.

If the dentist sees decay ('caries' in dentist speak) he/she will call the location on the tooth.

M= Mesial ie towards the midline.
O= Occlusal ie the top surface.
D= Distal ie away from the midline.

So, if your dentist says to the nurse ''26 MOD caries'' it means ''There is a lot of decay in the upper left first molar''.

As for fillings, 'amalgam' is a metal filling, and 'composite' means a white filling.

Hope this gives you a better idea of what they are on about.

Quote from xaotik :

Also, eat all of your broccoli and wear sensible shoes. Unfortunately, I can't stress the importance of sensible shoes enough - but trust me.

God, I've become my dad at the age of 25. Depressing.

FFS Harjun! First you decide you want a fast PC, so you go straight out and buy one with your dad's money. Now you decide you didn't want that anyway and now want a £1000 kart.

I think you need to learn the value of things and realise that most adults can't recklessly throw cash around like this, never mind a 13 year old kid. You shouldn't be surprised when you get negative comments from people, as at times you come across as a spoiled brat.

My advice, wait a week for the karting idea to pass you by and move onto your next expensive fad. Don't worry, daddy will pay for it.

I suppose it would be good for selling wheels, arranging game exchanges etc. At least it would stop for sale threads clogging up the other boards.

Co-Driver- ''Ahead, hard right 50..''

Driver- ''Oh bugger....''

Quote from mr_x :

RACE07 is brilliant, huge step up from RACE.

There's some sync issues online, but they're quite rare and Simbin are working on a fix for it, the netcode is very smooth, allows for bumper to bumper racing very easily.

Public servers are full of wreckers as mentioned before, but I race with a community with organised race nights on tuesdays and fridays (and any other days people organise them for) and getting 24 people in evenly matched cars bombing around Brands Hatch Indy circuit is a hell of alot of fun, I can tell you now! :P

In short... for online play, join a community.

Oh plus, Custom skins and addon tracks are supported with RACE 07.

Hmm, looks like I may get Race07 after all. One question- Are the add-on tracks supported in both the retail and the Steam versions?

EDIT:- Apparently you can add your own tracks/skins etc in the Steam version...

I think I am going to get RACE07 instead of rFactor. It will let me import tracks, has a good selection of cars and seems to be a much more 'solid' purchase out of the box. After all, I want to spend my time racing, not installing a plethora of addons. Also, the selection of cars should keep me happy for a while.

Feel free to tell me off if you think I have made the wrong decision!

Last edited by Origamiboy, Tue 13 Nov 2007, 16:11.

Thanks for the replies everyone. I think I'll give it a go, should provide a good diversion to LFS and prevent my simming time from becoming too stale. I was also looking into Race 07 after reading some positive comments but I suppose rFactor will have more variety and customisation.

Now, can anyone recommend what to download first and from where to get me up and running? Things like RealFeel etc...

Thanks again.

Hi all,

I have been loving LFS since I got it around August time, and it will always stay my online sim of choice until something better comes along, namely, S3. However, lately I have had a hankering to do lap some real tracks offline, particularly the Nordschleife (sp), laguna seca, bathurst etc in a variety of real world cars. (Neils' Corvette looks intriguing...). It seems in order to do this rFactor is the only way to go.

My questions are these. Will rFactor be a huge letdown physics wise compared to what I am used to in LFS? Do I need to download a plethora of new things if I purchase rFactor this late in its life, and if so what do I need to download?

I notice that this community is one of the most, well, 'discerning' I have come across, so if someone can recommend rFactor then I shall see it as a sign!

Also, please don't let this turn into a flame war. its been done enough in other threads. I simply want to know if rFactor can 'fill a hole' that LFS doesn't yet fulfill, so to speak.

Thanks.