You mean less scientifically correct, right? T is the SI denotation for 10^12 whether you use the long or short scale.
Here are the un-edited pictures I've taken if anyone wants them. 
I added a white-text version of the sa| logo. I saw on the broadcast that it was a blue background and we had blue text so
I am gonna quote these before one of his teammates seems them and tells him to edit them out 
Lap and Replay Time of incident: Lap 3 / 9 minutes of Aborted race
Car(s) involved: 01, 15, 24
Brief description of incident:
Car #15 of Conedodgers and car #24 of Something Awful Racing are side by side on the actual green-flag start. Car #01 of E-Team get up behind them and taps #24 first and causes #24 to spin out and #15 to lose a lot of speed.
Replay here: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1328612#post1328612
Car(s) involved: 01, 15, 24
Brief description of incident:
Car #15 of Conedodgers and car #24 of Something Awful Racing are side by side on the actual green-flag start. Car #01 of E-Team get up behind them and taps #24 first and causes #24 to spin out and #15 to lose a lot of speed.
Replay here: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1328612#post1328612
The same DWB that is also an admin of IGTC?
But IGTC does, and honestly GTAL follows IGTC more closely than it does MoE.
And saying MoE doesn't use wind because it's unrealistic is pretty bollocks, they don't use safety cars, and they allow rejoining after you shift+p, both of which are very unrealistic.
Here are some things that both GTAL and IGTC have that MoE doesnt:
Wind if it calls for it
Hardcore qualifying
No rejoinging after shift+p
safety cars to take into account
(fastest) qualifier must drive the race (no hotlap ringers allowed)
Really there are very few things where GTAL is "easier" than IGTC, which the one huge exception of the level of skill required for entrance.
Wind if it calls for it
Hardcore qualifying
No rejoinging after shift+p
safety cars to take into account
(fastest) qualifier must drive the race (no hotlap ringers allowed)
Really there are very few things where GTAL is "easier" than IGTC, which the one huge exception of the level of skill required for entrance.
I don't understand, I specifically mentioned the level of competition, then you go and argue using the exact thing I pointed out as the exception to disprove me.
It is equally as difficult as IGTC, with the exception of level of competition.
I'm a bit confused as to why he asked for PSD as well, but the better alternative would have been .png since it preserves transparency. That way when you put it on the skin it will blend correctly with what's behind it.
That's actually worse. Remember how I didn't want to edit that .jpg skin? basically the same idea. jpg's are only good for being the final product and that's it.
I think the bold part is really important here. Whether or not Maddin15 is more or less of an advanced driver than Ken is less of an issue as they're making it out to be.
Maddin15 might still get cleared, but he was still an unauthorized driver in qualifying 1 and so that lap will probably still be disqualified. Note "unauthorized" vs. "advanced". XCite screwed up big time and are trying to make it look like they're the victims here, and that's not fair to NDR.
Yes, NDR screwed up (as they admitted), but you guys (XCite) used a driver that hadn't been accepted and that decision is fully your fault.
I just went back and read all your posts in this thread and didn't find a single one of these so-called "facts" you speak of.
If you'll notice, I use plenty of "facts" in my arguments, ranging from the fact that people have helped me when I asked to the fact that not all of the MoE teams have won the races they entered and the fact that they don't just use their star drivers.
Strike not me down oh Lord, I was simply trying to prove a point. :sorry:
I'm not even all that fast and I'm somehow insulted by this comment. Pull your head out of your ass if you really think that the so-called aliens are jerks who want to show-boat in front of the little guys. Maybe there are "some" but in my 80k miles of LFS I haven't seen any.
My3id isn't even using their all-star team (they explained hugo is backup), and neither did spdo. Have you bothered asking any of the good teams for help? PMD said he did some laps in the FXR, has it even dawned on you to ask him for suggestions on how to get up to his pace?
In my personal experience the really fast guys are more than happy to help slower people. I've personally had several guys from spdo, nfinity, Sonicrealms, CoRe, EER, F1RST and possibly more that I'm forgetting help me out when all I've done is ask (not all of this was for GTAL). Some merely provided me with sets, but some guys (picking out Sonicrealms' junkan and nfinity's [DUcK] as the best examples) have taken the time to tell me what I'm doing wrong and how I can improve. Hell, I've even got a set or two from Mr. "go die in a fire" scipy simply because I was on the same server practicing and asked him.
Yes, but I think some of the reason they didn't get in is because at the time a few of their members were in SRLT. I could be wrong though. I would hazard a guess that they wouldn't have gotten in even if there was no guest-spot due to those circumstances.
Please tell me you're being dense on purpose... please...
They're up there running with the top GTAL guys showing them how a MoE/IGTC team acts in close racing. This is much better for everyone than having another team 4 laps down.
:doh: The guest team has only won once. If the guys up front (the ones most likely to make the step to MoE/IGTC) are having a battle with a MoE/IGTC team how is that not beneficial? Read the thread, many people have points out that the guest team doesn't fly away from the field and show that they are fastest.
On the other hand, if the guest teams shows up and laps the entire field then that would be a great wake up call that we ALL screwed up at that event. Either way, it's a great motivator (though positive or negative reinforcement, really up to us GTAL guys to decide).
This is probably going to sound rude, but only because I'm too tired to not be blunt.
The better teams with the faster drivers chose the XRR (CoRe) and FZR (take your pick). Most of the FXR teams were going to be slower anyway, in my opinion. If a faster team had chosen the FXR it would appear more competitive because it had drivers who could go faster in it.
Also, if you made the FXR anywhere close to the other two at KY then it would absolutely dominate everywhere else (except for being even at AS). That would just be the same problem, though with the cars switched.
And finally, the harder cars to master should be more rewarding. The FXR is so much easier to get up to 98-99% than the other two (though "no skill" is too far
). I think the balancing is just about perfect for GT2, the FZR and XRR are imho just about equally hard in GT2 spec (not like GT1 where the XRR is an animal) and they seem pretty even here. CoRe could win just as easily as any number of FZR teams, maybe even EER (another XRR team) if they step up their game to how quick they were in Round 1.
Edit: added more rantings
No, M.Riis did a 2:23.82 and L.White did a 2:23.87 in the FXR in qualifying group 2.
The 2:22.24 was done by someone who has been in MoE and drove for F1RST. The fastest FZR time by someone who has never been in MoE was Tommy's 2:22.89, though My3id's N. McEvoy did a 2:22.62 and SCP's I. Todorovic did a 2:22.78. The FXR times are only about a second slower than these times.
The fastest XRR time by someone who has never driven MoE was a 2:23.08 by Optix's V.Verstreken, though of course Ken did a 2:22.67. The fastest FXR was 1.15 seconds off that.
The FXR is not more than two seconds a lap off pace here in the hands of a capable driver.
The better teams with the faster drivers chose the XRR (CoRe) and FZR (take your pick). Most of the FXR teams were going to be slower anyway, in my opinion. If a faster team had chosen the FXR it would appear more competitive because it had drivers who could go faster in it.
Also, if you made the FXR anywhere close to the other two at KY then it would absolutely dominate everywhere else (except for being even at AS). That would just be the same problem, though with the cars switched.
And finally, the harder cars to master should be more rewarding. The FXR is so much easier to get up to 98-99% than the other two (though "no skill" is too far
). I think the balancing is just about perfect for GT2, the FZR and XRR are imho just about equally hard in GT2 spec (not like GT1 where the XRR is an animal) and they seem pretty even here. CoRe could win just as easily as any number of FZR teams, maybe even EER (another XRR team) if they step up their game to how quick they were in Round 1.Edit: added more rantings
No, M.Riis did a 2:23.82 and L.White did a 2:23.87 in the FXR in qualifying group 2.
The 2:22.24 was done by someone who has been in MoE and drove for F1RST. The fastest FZR time by someone who has never been in MoE was Tommy's 2:22.89, though My3id's N. McEvoy did a 2:22.62 and SCP's I. Todorovic did a 2:22.78. The FXR times are only about a second slower than these times.
The fastest XRR time by someone who has never driven MoE was a 2:23.08 by Optix's V.Verstreken, though of course Ken did a 2:22.67. The fastest FXR was 1.15 seconds off that.
The FXR is not more than two seconds a lap off pace here in the hands of a capable driver.
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Well the XRR has been given a boost (25% -> 24%) and the FXR is in line with the MoE GT2 FXR that was given a boost from the previous MoE season.
The FXR was actually pretty competative at BL1, and might be again at SO and FE.
The FXR was actually pretty competative at BL1, and might be again at SO and FE.
Don't forget Seb.
I think they should stay, if only so that we have a better comparison as to where we stand in reference to MoE teams. I didn't watch GTAL last year (except some of the Round 1 replay) but it sounds like in none of the races the MoE team zoomed off into the distance.
For the top GTAL teams at least, that's a great motivator to continue what they're doing, as they can see how close they are to MoE standards of pace. For guys like Yann and others who didn't get in... well I'm sure NDR did their best to be fair to everyone. I'm sure Tiger Express will get in by the end of the season at least.
Turn it off, see how much you really don't use it.
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