Quote from aimbottle :

Any (reliable!!) estimate about how long it'll take until you're able to sell this thing?

7-14 days

Quote from aimbottle :

Next standard question: What about the original rinoseat design? Will it still be sold? :Kick_Can_

No,

new Rinoseat
- is lighter then the old (new 10kg - old 12.5kg),
- has more adjustments (even angle of wheel, angle of seat, pedal plate left - right),
- has not steering wheel beetwen legs,
- has a very strong handle wheel,
- no sweat in seat,
- cage construction gives it exceptional strenght,
- seat is similar to the real Recaro seat,
- better sense of wheel FF vibration,
- same model is compatible with G25/G27 and Fanatec (wheel and pedal),
- seat slider (option),
- can handle keyboard, mouse, monitor, 3xmonitors (options) ...

and generally not much larger




video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuQ6I_6gbLs

Last edited by renorino, Wed 20 Jan 2010, 20:10.

We are still waiting for a high quality cover for a seat and then ...

short video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuQ6I_6gbLs

Promo price for G25/G27/RS3 will be 269EUR+transport

Quote from TIXX74 :

Thanks Renorino to be back.. i am heard about your cockpit on forums and youtube.. what are differences between GTR and GT cockpits?

GTR
... C style of seating
... seat base angle from 14deg to 28deg
... angle between seat base and seat back 95deg
... strong shoulder support
... strong side support
... shell seat like http://www.thefind.com:80/fami ... caro-pole-position-racing

GT
... S style of seating
... seat base angle from 4deg to 18deg
... angle between seat base and seat back 115deg
... strong lumbar support
... less side support
... more lying position


P.S. jadran, shoock ... vidimo se uskoro

Last edited by renorino, Tue 24 Nov 2009, 22:38.

Best regards and a big apology to all

Development of the new seats should have more money, so I had to make and sell the few CNC machines as my primary job ... now it is over, and continues with new models of Rinoseat ... will be a total of 3

Rinoseat GTR ... on sale next week 12/2009 ... C style of seating
Rinoseat GT ... end of year 01/2010 ... S style of seating
Rinoseat GP ... 02/2010 ... F1 seat&style

New Rinoseat is really fantastic and for a couple of days i will publish a first real pictures.

Sorry again, i am here now 24hours per day

Quote from dontsimon :

Is there anything else different with the G25 edition? Or is it just the shifter mount? Or is there more?

a few more screws

Quote from dontsimon :

For example, if you don't use the shifter, would the non G25 version be okay for a G25 wheel?

yes


p.s. the wheel holder is compatible with logitech G25 & fanatec porsche wheel

Quote from aimbottle :

Hm... That sounds really reasonable. Is the seat included in this price? (I mean the cussions and stuff)

Yes, the shell seat included in this price.

Quote from aimbottle :

Is the "old" rinoseat still availlable? Or will it be replaced by the new one?

Old Rinoseat will be available in Septembar.

Quote from STF :

...Is this out for sale yet, or merely work in progress ? Any update with the prices including all the extras/seat styles/mounts[..] would be appreciated...

we started with the production

Rinoseat New G25 Edition: 259EUR (included lower G25 shifter mount)

Rinoseat New: 209EUR

transport cost for EU: 50EUR

Quote from batteryy :

im confused here, is there supposed to be some cloth+else stuff and not only the bars

sit on the pillow of the sponges + cloth filled with a sponge + elastic bands

similar to the old rinoseat, see http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=50975

...Now, on to the fun bit. Is it comfortable to use? The short answer is yes. The long answer is yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.
I was totally amazed at the comfort!! It’s hard to put a finger on what exactly does it, but the whole feel of the seat is extremely good. The mix between soft cushions and still good support works very well indeed. Once you’ve adjusted the distance to the pedals correctly, the base of the seat will provide excellent support to your thighs. Also the way the seat is constructed, a lot of your body weight is held up by your legs, so there’s less weight on the seat itself. Since your body weight gets distributed over a large area it feels like you’re “floating on air”. (I stole that expression from some other review. ) Together, this means that even after long hours of racing I don’t get tired at all...

Few pictures of new Rinoseat:







- only 10kg weight (aluminium tubes)
- folding seat + folding frame
- excellent ergonomics (shell seat is a size XL)
- steering wheel is absolutely rigid
- all cockpit is absolutely rigid
- excelent design (like real race car)
- many multi colors or all in one (black edition)
- you can adjust:
1. seat base angle
2. seat base height
3. wheel angle
4. wheel distance
5. wheel height
6. pedal angle
7. pedal distance
- many models: G25 Edition (with shifter holder), Fanatec Porsche Wheel Edition, XBOX Edition
- optional: keyboard, mouse, speakers, monitor, 3xmonitors holder

We will offer several different seats (F1, GT, NASCAR, SLR ...) with different styles of seating.

Soon: Upgrade for new Rinoseat to real home motion simulator (2DOF & 6DOF) with a very reasonable cost and incredible little weight.

Few pictures of new Rinoseat:







- only 10kg weight (aluminium tubes)
- folding seat + folding frame
- excellent ergonomics (shell seat is a size XL)
- steering wheel is absolutely rigid
- all cockpit is absolutely rigid
- excelent design (like real race car)
- many multi colors or all in one (black edition)
- you can adjust:
1. seat base angle
2. seat base height
3. wheel angle
4. wheel distance
5. wheel height
6. pedal angle
7. pedal distance
- many models: G25 Edition (with shifter holder), Fanatec Porsche Wheel Edition, XBOX Edition
- optional: keyboard, mouse, speakers, monitor, 3xmonitors holder
We will offer several different seats (F1, GT, NASCAR, SLR ...) with different styles of seating.

Soon: Upgrade for new Rinoseat to real home motion simulator (2DOF & 6DOF) with a very reasonable cost and incredible little weight.

Maybe this:

review from UK ... http://www.simjunkies.org:80/Forum/index.php?topic=7887.0
review from UK ... http://www.gtplanet.net:80/for ... =2966425&postcount=10
review from Sweden ... http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=697275#post697275
review from Switzerland ... http://forums.forzamotorsport. ... orums/thread/1436039.aspx
review from Germany ... http://www.racersleague.com/viewtopic.php?p=69682#69682

translated to English:

Two weeks ago I ordered the RinoSeat, and after I have sensetively ajusted it, I now have three races (60 min per NGT, 70 min GTL, 3 hours LSC), so that I have enough experience for a small report. So from that:
According to Heinz Erhardt I started thinking ahead, namely when ordering. Email to Renato (here at the Forum "renorino"), half an hour later came the order, together with account for the transfer. The transfer lasted longest (since the weekend), the transport went quickly, and after ordering, I got a shipment number with which I detailed package via the Internet could follow. Customer service and information flow 1A.
The package was quite compact (dimensions can be viewed on www.rinoseats.com), the content well padded and slippery place. To build there is even a complete tool, what is needed to help provided additional cable ties and both side adhesive tape (surface once schleifpapier, once klettverschlussartig).
With the instruction manual, which I have previously received by mail, is the spectacle even for skilled craftsmanship rather average fellow like me to do well.
Then the first fitting at NGT races in Zandvoort: The seat is as comfortable as stable and has a long run tavern situation.
On an anticipated stability anyway: All your fears this good conscience I can dispel. When I first saw pictures, I was a little skeptical - holds that? But then I looked at more and more photos and videos viewed mainly that my doubts were dwindling. And after I in the last race in my desk chair was already so annoyed by my inappropriate seating position, I decided to RinoSeat indicated.
In short, the thing is bombenfest. In terms of stability it can't be compared to PlaySeat in nothing. No shaking, no slides, no tilt, nothing. Even with proper force feedback, and also quick steering movements device is not in trouble. The steering wheel holder, I think even much better than the PlaySeat (the times when I was Fritz test), while the PlaySeat Holder something like swing to the side when you violently boost at the wheel, you can feel when RinoSeat due to the relatively short connection the handlebars to the seat absolutely nothing.
After the first race fit the pedal position still is not 100%, so on Saturday amended and by far the most relaxing LSC race of my life there, mind you, relaxed and not get bored (who live stream has seen, knows that everything other than boring, ). Even after an hour running time was for me: This investment has been worth it. The comfort is outstanding. The back is divided into three stages variable (steep, "rally-style", nearly 90 ° / upright, "normal" style and a little further tilted / F1 flat, "GT-style" liegemäßig heavily tilted). I chose the medium variant decide, because I am most lateral support, and best fleet also perform manoeuvres at the wheel. It can have on the boards for the steering wheel and pedals several disguise.
As some have written: You do not wegrutschenden pedals after fishing with me is also often times the chair rolled to the side, or the steering wheel holder has been relaxed at the table - that's all past. It has a fixed seat and pedal position, which is to focus much better on the race and we can concentrate not so long strained.
In addition, the design is relatively compact. My room is not exactly majestic proportions, so it was very important to me that I use the racing seat can be stowed simply, without the need to dismantle it, if I just do not go. And he will after use across underneath my desk, with the seat in the desk drawer - fits perfectly.
From me, there is therefore an unqualified recommendation: Who plays with the idea of getting a race seat indicated, with the RinoSeat in any case, happy. This is it is very compact and relatively cheap. I am very pleased. And no, I am not lately in the marketing department of Rino Industries employed.




http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=253663459746044674
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3180134300425049881 use H lower shifter + heel and toe technique
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3082724423152047005
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_ruAMgWHyo driver height 190cm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci03Sy3p47I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UDjdhOSILXc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4jFmuImnx8 driver height 181cm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aMOO1yle0s

Last edited by renorino, Wed 9 Apr 2008, 23:35.

review from UK: http://www.simjunkies.org/Forum/index.php?topic=7887.0

Picture the scene…
The corner approaches fast, but he’s not worried. Smoothly, he applies the brakes, and the ferocious, snarling engine note of his classic race car dies away. The tyres squeal their dissent, but he’s not worried; it’s all under control. With a flick of his hand, the car changes gear; and again; and again. The car is protesting, trying to break free from his practised hands, desperate to show him just who is the boss out there; but he’s seen it all before, and the merest hint of a smile breaks across his face. Expertly balancing the car, he eases it to the apex of the corner, enjoying the sensations as the wheel clips the rumble strip. The power is applied with graceful ease, controlling the forces of inertia with barely perceptible movements of throttle, brake and steering. The beast has been tamed, and realising that resistance is futile, his mount accepts the majesty of the pilot, and dutifully drifts towards the exit of the bend, snarling in exaltation as it tears away from the corner, disappearing down the straight, expectantly looking for the next turn, and another virtuoso performance of man and machine in perfect harmony.

But enough about [SJ]Caspar, because he is not writing this review; rather, it has fallen to me to provide an appraisal of the Rinoseat Revolution G25 Edition racing seat, and as all of you are only too aware, none of the above applies to me.

When I recently registered over at GPCOS, I was asked to provide details of my driving style; you will not be surprised to hear that I ticked the “maximum risk” box; but this doesn’t tell the whole story. When the Rinoseat was first introduced to our esteemed membership, questions were raised by both Jarrko ([SJ]Drunken Predator) and myself regarding the Rinoseat’s ability to withstand punishment at the hands of a someone who does not drive with a silky smooth technique. I was minded to suggest that GPCOS include a further category of driving style; “mauler”; no finesse at all, just throw it into the corners, and man-handle it out the other side, because that is a more realistic appraisal of how I drive. One thing is for sure, under my girth, and with my driving “style”, the Rinoseat was certainly going to be put through its paces. However, before extolling the virtues or otherwise of the Rinoseat, I will first pay lip service to more mundane matters, such as instructions, materials, and assembly.

When Ted ([SJ]2shedz) and I tipped the contents from the box, we were surprised to find there were no assembly instructions. OK, we thought, is not a problem, because Marcus ([SJ]Animal) had forwarded on some pictorial guides which were provided by the manufacturers. Trouble was, the pictures showed certain features of the Rinoseat, but did not provide a comprehensive guide. Fortunately, the assembly follows a logical path, and once the parts had been identified, it was a relatively straightforward affair, even for me (I am a thinker, not a do’er!). Within an hour, the thing was bolted together, and we were ready to go, but before jumping aboard, Ted and I undertook a brief appraisal of the materials and overall quality of the package.

The tubing is excellent quality; I am reliably informed that it is hydraulic tubing, which has very high tensile strength, and can really take a pounding. The wheel and pedal holders are pressed steel, in a gloss-red powder coat (I think), and are well finished. The seat is in two parts; the squab consists of a foam pad, approximately 5cms in depth, which is supported by elastic straps attached to the base unit. The seat back encloses similar elastic straps, and is lightly foam-padded. The seat is covered in red and black vinyl, which looks pretty good, but does give concerns regarding longevity. To be entirely honest, I was somewhat under whelmed by the actual seat; it looked as if it would be uncomfortable if used for any length of time, and to my eye, was a little narrow.

Bearing in mind that this is the G25 version of the Rinoseat, it is supplied with two options for mounting the shifter; effectively, you are supplied with two mountings of different lengths, which give the option of mounting the shifter at roughly the same height as the wheel, or lower down, depending on personal preference. I do have a criticism of the shifter mounting; I use the shifter with my left hand (remember, while most of the world drives on the right side of the road, we in the UK drive on the correct side of the road, so left-handed shifting is normal for us). The mounting of choice was the taller of the two options, and it works very well from my point of view. Nevertheless, if right-handed shifting is your bag, it is not possible to mount the shifter quite as far forward, as the mounting post is not completely universal, and the shaping requires right-handed shifters to have their stick around 10cms closer to them. It is possible to order the seat with either left or right-handed shifting option, but I would like to see an entirely universal option.

I suspect that, as the test unit was a pre-production model, this issue will be ironed out come the full production run. Mounting of the shifter was a totally painless exercise; as is the case with all the various mounting points, the holes are in exactly the right place to enable easy mounting of your G25. In my experience, mounting holes for anything can be a hit-and-miss affair, and the manufacturer should be commended for such attention to detail. So having sorted out mounting of my G25, it was time to provide the Rinoseat with the ultimate test, namely having me sit in it!

I am around 6’1” tall (1.85m), and weigh in at a well managed 16st 12lbs (236lbs – 107kg). I have to say that, at a glance, the tubing used in construction of the Rinoseat looked mighty flimsy when confronted by my considerable girth, and despite Ted’s assurance that the tubing would easily cope with my bulk, it was with considerable trepidation that I lowered myself gingerly in to the Rinoseat for the first time. I shouldn’t have worried; the seat felt solid and secure, and within seconds, my fears had evaporated, to be replaced by a confidence that the seat was going to be able to handle anything I threw at it.

I took it home in my car; the modular construction makes it easy to partially disassemble the Rinoseat for transportation, and if LAN parties are your game, this is the seat for you. Having got the Rinoseat to my house, I set about installing it at my computer desk. I do not have the luxury of a study, and all of my racing takes place in a corner of the lounge. This presented a major stumbling block, as my wife is not keen on having her family room transformed into a games room. Fortunately, the Rinoseat is relatively easy to strip down, and can be safely stored away behind the sofa until required.

All set and ready to go; it was time to take it out for a road-test. The first thing I noticed on firing up GT Legends was the way in which the force-feedback generated by the wheel is transferred through the seat; this is a brilliant innovation, and again, we should commend the designer for his original approach to building a race seat. And so to the track, and after a few laps to get used to the revised driving position, I was entirely at home in the Rinoseat, and very much enjoying the ride.

Now, I remind you that, in my introduction, I alluded to the fact that I am something of a “mauler” behind the wheel, and the single tube which supports the wheel does have a tendency to flex when subjected to my abusive driving style. I cannot say how this will affect the components long-term, but I would not be overly concerned. The flexing is hardly noticeable, and does not suggest that, a few months down the line, the Rinoseat will be falling apart. If anything, I believe that the flexing will in fact prolong the life of the G25, as it transfers some of the considerable forces applied through my wheel, and dissipates these through the tube. The pedals, wheel and shifter have remained firmly fixed through out the test, and I have no reason to suspect that the Rinoseat will require constant maintenance to keep it tip-top.

The experience of driving has been nothing other than pleasurable. The sidebars keep you firmly in the seat, and although these apply a small amount of pressure around my hips, it has never become an uncomfortable ride. The driving position is first class; there are a large range of adjustments and with a bit of fiddling, I cannot envisage anyone not finding a comfortable set-up. The seat unit itself, although somewhat sparsely padded, has remained comfortable throughout some long driving stints; although the vinyl covers encourage you to sweat a little more than is the case with a leather-clad seat.

Perhaps the most significant impact of the Rinoseat from a personal perspective is in relation to comfort. I suffer with neck and shoulder discomfort, due to various injuries picked up over the years in accidents, on the sports field, and in bars. When driving from my standard computer chair (a high-backed leather item), I tend to move about a lot, and suffer a few aches and pains after a long stint “at the races.” This has all but disappeared since using the Rinoseat, due to its purpose-built design, and huge range of adjustments for reach, pedal height, wheel height, and so on. Without doubt, it is the most comfortable I have ever been in all the years I have raced simulators; to qualify that statement, it should be pointed out that this is the first purpose-built seat I have used, but even so, the achievement of the Rinoseat designer should not be underestimated. But before anyone thinks that I’ve completely taken leave of my senses; in the best traditions of a cynic, there are a couple of less-positive issues which should be pointed out.

The vinyl covering employed in construction underlines the fact that this has been produced on a budget; I do not see it lasting as long as the other components. In saying that, the seat-back cover is a zip-on affair, and it will be very easy to make a replacement; indeed, I would consider re-covering the seat-cushion and back with either leather, or perhaps even Alcantara, for that authentic race feel. It would certainly not be an expensive enterprise to achieve this, requiring only a couple of metres of material.

Another matter that should be addressed is the price; when the seat first appeared on our site, the price was quoted at €169. This fact notwithstanding, when the test unit arrived, the pro-forma invoice stated the price as €199; this was the unit price, and not inclusive of any carriage costs. Price is one of the key marketing strategies of the Rinoseat, and this is an issue that certainly requires clarification.

And that’s about it really; I am sure that those of you reading this will have ascertained that my impression is nothing other than positive. I am due to forward the Rinoseat to another tester in the next few days; to be honest, I have considered jacking in my membership at Sim Junkies, and doing a runner with the seat. It has a huge range of adjustment which should ensure that anyone who purchases a Rinoseat will be racing in comfort; the well thought out use of materials indicates that it will withstand the test of time relatively well. The utilisation of the wheel’s force-feedback to give a “rumble-seat” effect is a great innovation, and I am certain that other manufacturers will be looking closely at ways of employing this approach in their own cockpits.

Perhaps the greatest accolade I can give is in answering the question “would I buy one”. Abso-bloody-lutely! In fact, following prolonged negotiations, which included both bribery and foot-stamping, Mrs R1der has agreed to let me have one in exchange for finishing off decorating the bathroom; anyone who knows how much I despise undertaking any sort of DIY task will appreciate how high a price she has placed on allowing me to have a Rinoseat, but tomorrow will be spent finishing the tiling, fitting a bath panel, polishing the 1,300 tiles I have already put up, and laying a new floor. For the price, there is absolutely nothing to touch the Rinoseat.

Orange and Blue – Through and Through
[SJ]Sh1te R1der (aka Dave)

Richard Burns rally agressive driven with Logitech G25 mounted on RinoSeat

video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3082724423152047005

Unique construction of Rinoseat enables sim drivers to feel more of FFB and in that way enjoy more in virtual reality. Flexibility (there is no wobbliness, loose or shaky connection beetwen any part) of steering wheel support tube helps FFB forces to vibrate and travel through seat and body. That could be compared to "resonating forke" effect well known from physics.


Renato M.
[email protected]

Quote from dontsimon :

If you've gone from one position on the wheel plate, to two, how does that quadruple the amount of available positions? Seems like it would only double the amount of positions.

Your diagram is a little confusing to me.

It's great that you're constantly improving your product though. I hope to buy one later this year.

Quote from Chrester :

It includes a new wheel tube as well. That gives all the extra positions

Very clever to have two ways to mount the wheelt tube.

ADDITIONAL DESCRIPTION:

Two positions on the wheel plate.
Two ways to mount the same wheel tube (ONLY ONE NEW asymmetrical tube - just rotate - NO TWO TUBES)
_______________________________________________
Quadruple the amount of available positions

Last edited by renorino, Thu 7 Feb 2008, 14:31.

Quote from Cawwa :

...Next to adjust was the wheel. Here you don't have endless possibilities with length-hight from the body. I chosed to press the wheel as low as possible for not touch the legs. That was the only way to get the wheel as near me as possible...
...Con's (not in any special order)...
...Missing an adjust possibility for the wheel in length from/to the body...

We changed design of the wheel tube and drilled new three holes with screw in wheel table, and got incredible 24 new positions of wheel (earlier only 6).


Now you can independently move wheel table forward or backward.


We will start delivery that improvement in Rinoseat from 11, February 2008. like a standard option.

Renato M.
Rino Industries Ltd.
[email protected]
RINOSEAT REVOLUTION
THE KING OF SPEED & PLEASURE

Quote from Technique :

... let's give some owners of other cockpits a chance to share their experience with us...

http://www.manu-factory.it/seat4speed.htm
http://www.gtcockpit.com/
http://www.gameracer.co.uk/
http://www.realsnakepit.com/
http://www.visionracer.com/
http://www.formulasim.com/products.html
https://www.gtrevolution.com/main.php
http://www.gamepod.co.uk/
http://www.sim-gear.com/796563.html
http://www.trinity-racing.com/page3.html
http://www.vrx.ca/products_base.php
http://www.gamerscockpit.com.au/cockpit_details/
http://www.cyberkart.com.au/assemble.htm
http://www.myhomesimulator.com ... MqT9v3N3o8CFSGnXgodByb4fQ
http://www.rfaction.net/index.html


continuing with topic

Last edited by renorino, Tue 29 Jan 2008, 14:15.

Removed

Last edited by renorino, Tue 29 Jan 2008, 23:14. Reason : OT

Quote from Polyracer :

The quality and feel of your pedals are the make or break for heel and toe driving, - not your actual seating position.

I do not agree with you.

I was wrote next text 06.01.2008 http://forum.racesimcentral.co ... p=3664249&postcount=5

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I am the designer and constructor (inventor) of Rinoseat Revolution. http://www.rinoseats.com/images/head1.gif
I studied simrace seats for almost 3 years. http://www.rinoseats.com/images/rinoseats11.jpg

Heel and toe technique of driving was one of the most important thing when I was developing Rinoseat.

For using this tehniques of driving, you must UNLOAD YOUR LEGS AND FOOT WITH PROPERLY POSITION OF ANGLE PEDALS PLATE!!!

Good simrace seat must have the following options:

1. long seat base (you unload your legs)
2. long side suport seat base (we discovered that you must have support when you push your pedals with heel and toe and that you rotate your foot)
3. proper angle of seat base (you get the feeling, that your legs are levitating)
4. small thickness of sponge under your knees (what we discovered from praxis was that your brain must feel one fixed position on your legs, one point of your legs must be fixed so that you could push pedals)
5. posibility (an option) that you can extend your legs without moving up your knees (even in case that you are 200cm height)

Quote from Technique :

...it appears that the pedals are at the same height as the seat base...

6. properly set height diference (distance) betwen your seat base and pedal plate
7. posibility that you can change angle of your pedal (correct angle is VERY IMPORTANT for your foot)
8. strong support for your pedal plate without flexing it (when you push your pedals, you produce really big force)
9. free space between your legs under knees

You can see all of this on this picture of Rinoseat:
http://www.rinoseats.com/images_share/seatpos1s.jpg

There is a video of heel and toe technique with Rinoseat:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AbfLCZ4QrS8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=A77dylVLsoU (on the end)

You can ask driver shown on this video anything about that. He used Rinosat for the last month with special attention on heel and toe technique (his review)
...Also I noted that my skills regarding pedals control has improved ALOT - because of my legs resting freely on the seat, and not floating in the air which is case if I'm driving on my regular chair...
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/show...2&postcount=33
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Of course, you must have quality pedals, like you must have quality seating position, too. (G25 is fine, like you see)


P.S. We are preparing a special video with Rinoseat & Richard Burns Rally (Heel and toe technique of driving)

Last edited by renorino, Tue 29 Jan 2008, 23:20.

Quote from Technique :

Others like the rinoseat appear to be better in this regard. My main complaint with the rinoseat just from pictures is the seat appears to be reclined too far. In all the cars I've owned, I've always sat in a racing position (even when not racing) with the seat close to the wheel and barely reclined. I can go on 6 hour road trips in this position without feeling uncomfortable. Perhaps this is a flaw in the rinoseat itself in that it needs to be reclined a fair amount to be comfortable.

Hi,

Did you saw the next pictures:




We have 5 positions of seat back, but we do not use 2 positions, because they are too close to the wheel, but...

Thank you for your opinion.

Last edited by renorino, Mon 28 Jan 2008, 04:26.

Quote from blackbird04217 :

...that seat looks terribly uncomfortable and "flippy"...

Please, can you read this:

...there is no need to move, it adjusts by your body and its very comfort, no pain in back or something,you can drive for hours without cramps or any other problems
i was testing like 15min and while driving, i didnt even feel that im sitting in something, it was really great, very soft so it feels like your levitating...
http://forum.racesimcentral.co ... =3634556&postcount=25

http://forum.racesimcentral.co ... =3636336&postcount=32

...I was enjoying sitting there on a very comfortable and great sim-racing seat - without any pain in the ass. Or maybe in my neck. Oh wait, my feet also dont hurt. And my back is perfectly fine. I think I could fall aspleep in it - I think this is enugh to convince everyone that it is actually very comfortable...
http://forum.racesimcentral.co ... =3647082&postcount=33

...Plus, it's very comfortable with lumber support and thanks to the design it can easily be put under a bed...
...When I first sat down in the seat, I couldn't believe how soft and comfy it was. You can just forget about anything else except that you're in a racing car trying to make that corner...
http://forum.racesimcentral.co ... =3661616&postcount=41

http://forum.racesimcentral.co ... =3664343&postcount=45

Quote from blackbird04217 :

...Almost like it will flip backwards if you leaned back...

Rinoseat looks minimalistic (and it is light, only 10kg and cheap too), but such type of design was enormous problem for construction. You can't see that on video, but in structure of seat back are many steel reinforces.

Please, look at this picture (driver height: 190cm, seat back angle >130deg)


This is the last position of seat back.

Can you imagine, how Rinoseat must be stabile and strong, when it can keep the driver safely sitting in this position (position of F1 driver).


Rinoseat is totally different from any other raceseats, because we have been developing raceseat to improve driving experience and to improve the feeling of driving. For improving driving experience, we have many factors. Some of that are: foot pedal angle, seat base length, seat base angle, position of your crank, lumbar support, commodity, angle of your back... "Real" race seat is not good option for sim racer. Maybe for realistic look, or feeling of "siting", but for long long driving it is not a good solution. When we started Rinoseat project (2.5 years ago), we decided that we would make something completely different, something revolutionary. We do not want to copy other similar products. We have analized the market and we made construction and design priorities and developed Rinoseat through series of rigorous tests.

Last edited by renorino, Mon 21 Jan 2008, 01:16.

Quote from Polyracer :

So, not happy a link in the first post - we seem to have a producer abusing the thread!!!

It will be only thread from me.
Thanks

Quote from spankmeyer :

That is nice indeed but I can't spare the square meters from my already smallish home.

Hi,

Please, look this: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=681965#post681965

pictures: http://picasaweb.google.ro/rinoreno/RinoseatRevolution


Renato M.
Rino Industries Ltd.
Zagreb CROATIA
[email protected]
http://www.rinoseats.com
RINOSEAT REVOLUTION
THE KING OF SPEED & PLEASURE

Additional informations (video&picture&review)

video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_ruAMgWHyo driver height 190cm
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci03Sy3p47I
video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=UDjdhOSILXc
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4jFmuImnx8 driver height 181cm

video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKMxINVNd70 hard test
&review: http://forum.racesimcentral.co ... =3647082&postcount=33

video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=xN5QLNdUwuo driver height 197cm
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN8WQtYEE1k driver & codriver

pictures: http://picasaweb.google.ro/Gaas35/RinoSeatPrezentacijaTest
pictures: http://picasaweb.google.ro/rinoreno/RinoseatRevolution
assembly: http://teamxfr.org/temp/ (only 12kg/ package 84cmx48cmx17cm)

videos: http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=shoock123&p=v

video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=AbfLCZ4QrS8 heel and toe technique
my opinion about posibility of driving with heel and toe technique with Rinoseat + G25:
http://forum.racesimcentral.co ... p=3664249&postcount=5

one of the reviews:
http://forum.racesimcentral.co ... =3661616&postcount=41
some reviews from Sweden:
http://forum.swedishsimracers. ... ewtopic.php?p=73553#73553

big thread page2 with many reviews:
http://forum.racesimcentral.co ... d.php?t=304293&page=2
big thread page1 (GENERAL PROMOTION):
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=304293

More reviews, soon from Finland, Switzerland, Croatia, Netherland, Portugal, Poland, Sweden, Italy, Germany...

Renato M.
Rino Industries Ltd.
Zagreb CROATIA
[email protected]
http://www.rinoseats.com
RINOSEAT REVOLUTION
THE KING OF SPEED & PLEASURE

Last edited by renorino, Sun 20 Jan 2008, 15:04.

When we started Rinoseat project (2.5 years ago), we decided that we would make something completely different, something revolutionary. We do not want to copy other similar products. We have analized the market and we made construction and design priorities and developed Rinoseat through series of rigorous tests.

"Real" race seat is not good option for sim racer. Maybe for realistic look, or feeling of "siting", but for long long driving it is not a good solution.

For improving driving experience, we have many factors. Some of that are: foot pedal angle, seat base length, seat base angle, position of your crank, lumbar support, commodity, angle of your back...

Rinoseat is totally different from any other raceseats, because we have been developing raceseat to improve driving experience and to improve the feeling of driving.


example of superb driving - video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKMxINVNd70
heal and toe technic - video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=AbfLCZ4QrS8
video: http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=shoock123&p=v
images: http://picasaweb.google.ro/Gaas35/RinoSeatPrezentacijaTest
opinions: http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=304293
review: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=34689

Renato M.
Rino Industries Ltd.
Zagreb CROATIA
[email protected]
www.rinoseats.com