Quote from XCNuse :

His "dubstep" isn't out there are some dubstep.. I too hate how this dubstep crap fell into the world (thanks Europe!) and... it's just noise to me, I can't stand it, especially when the song has a good intro and stuff, and then turns into mush of noise and bass and hats.

That's because most 'dubstep' I hear being put out now is almost an entirely new genre... there are good songs out there that don't descend into screams and noise.

here, maybe you'll be more taken with something in this. Some new, some older, some heavy, some soft, some popular, some not. all really different:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... oXRzp8sW3A&lf=mh_lolz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMuSYWwZaag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2xQV31d7Rc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... feature=youtu.be&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLyxHGtFBZY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... ihqWc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY30jaKhC7w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlEkvbRmfrA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... hY5aY&feature=related


If not, oh well, I tried People like different music, can't really change that. If you don't like anything in there, then dubstep probably isn't for you.

Last edited by RiseAgainstMe!, Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:12.

I listen to a lot of dubstep, but the whole Skrillex and all the high pitched screechy noises and stuff that I've been hearing recently just isn't my style. I prefer much more melodic stuff. I'll actually listen to only about 1 or 2 Skrillex songs.

That being said, I had an awesome time when Skrillex played in Detroit (at a festival, there were a lot of other acts I saw too), you don't necessarily have to love the music to get hammered and then have your eardrums blown out as you dance the night away right on the edge of the river in between all the city lights... it was a good time.

EDIT: and yes, if you go, earplugs might be a good idea... I had mine. The bass was brain fryingly loud.

Last edited by RiseAgainstMe!, Fri, 21 Oct 2011 04:36.

well, we all lose then JJ72.

I'll take a stab soon though, for giggles and shits

Quote from BlueFlame :

Well if you have no downforce front and rear with teh same poweroutput that these cars have, they will be spinning as soon as they get into the banking.

why? The car essentially becomes an Ariel Atom V8 (at 1350lb, 500hp, no wings) , and those are perfectly able to navigate tracks without spinning.

EDIT : I am mixing Ariel Atom versions here I think. The V8 version has 500hp and wings, the regular has only 300 and no wings. Still, I think it'd be possible to drive the v8 with no wings, since wings provide little downforce at low speeds anyways (for the starts.)

Also, downforce can come from other areas.

Last edited by RiseAgainstMe!, Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:38.

Frackin' hell, you did Darryl O'Young's helmet?

rhetorical question

Quote from Bmxtwins :

Wouldn't less downforce make the cars more unstable? Or are they trying to create understeer. But less downforce would also create more speed.

Unless this is a joke..

No.
No.
No.

Not necessarily, I'm sure they would set up their cars to be stable enough with no downforce.

No, it's talking about removing downforce from both ends of the car.

Less downforce would create less speed, because they won't be able to run through the corners as fast (flat out).

Quote from Cornys :

Closed cock pits seem to be okay with the bigger cars such as NASCAR. Fires are very rarely an issue there, but what kind of mesaures would have to be taken to avoid fires for a small Indycar vs. a stock car?

The cars in NASCAR have windows though, the issues with a closed cockpit open wheeler come from lack of a way to exit quickly when they are upside-down.

sorry, but that'll never work Mustafar. Too many factors, what would happen if one car slowed as two were racing side by side? Penalize everyone?

And you can't possibly expect racing drivers to not go for gaps that are physically possible for them to fit in and make stick. No, this is a technical issue, not rules of the road issue.

I had a date that ended up with hooking up in the car in high school... then a cop showed up in the same parking lot we were in, chasing some kids... he stopped one of them and talked to him for about 5 minutes. By this time, we had put clothes back on, and got back into normal car sitting positions. The cop came over, asked us what we were doing, shining a flashlight in my face. I put my angry face on, and said "talking... about relationship issues"... he paused, then said "Well, with two people sitting in a car in a dark parking lot... it looks like you are doing drugs." Really? that's what he thought? We were doing some sort of drugs? The windows were all steamed and everything, and I kicked her underwear back under the seat as I was talking to him, when I noticed it on the ground.

Dunno how weird that is, but being walked in on by a cop is certainly the most interesting thing that has happened to me.

Quote from deggis :

The 2012 engines are supposed to provide between 550-750 bhp, obviously less for ovals. Will this fix anything?

That's a huge range...

EDIT: Oh duh, they change it based on the course..

Last edited by RiseAgainstMe!, Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:36.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2PMUNsuZWA

5 lap tribute for anyone who wants to see it...

the most heart wrenching part is the last 2 minutes, the description of his family and team owner at the hospital where he died, hearing the announcer crying during Jamie Little saying that, and the final goodbye...

yeah, I'm crying as I type this and watch it again.

Quote from Mustafur :

Im guessing restarting the race can be no other then barnharts idea.

I heard they are doing a 5 lap tribute to him, I doubt they will even close to speed.

****.

This is probably the hardest I've taken a death in racing since Greg Moore.

They say only the good die young.

Quote from BlueFlame :

.... Spoilers and wings don't make a car suceptable to flight, it's the undertray. When air gets under the chassis in sufficient ammounts, it wants to fly.

Unless you are refering to ramming into someone and being launched into the air, then you'd be correct.

Ehh, I wasn't being that technical. For the Indy Cars, it's a whole host of things, between the open wheels and the wings and the rest of the aero... the wings let them run higher speeds, which makes it a lot more dangerous too

But part of the reason I said things with wings is when NASCAR recently had wings on the back, when they got turned backwards they had a tendency to fly.

Quote from PMD9409 :

I love oval racing, but this is why IndyCar should never be racing there.

"Oh but they are adding a rear bumper next year"

So what? The cars are light, they will still fly. There's no safety toward the head at all when it comes to crashes like this.

Aero + ovals = bad news. I don't like things with wings being on the higher speed ovals. period.

Too easy for people to fly.

Somewhat happy to see JJ in this position. I don't hate the guy, in fact I rather like him. I'm just ready for someone else to win one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFCOugYb6Hg

here's one angle, that's what I've been able to find so far

(if anyone can find better footage... I had to miss the race )

Quote from Funnybear :

Who the **** are you? That was just a coke advert. Get a life dick for brains.

There's another angle of this crash uploaded to YouTube

Big impact sad for a small team

still some work to do on the AI then

Quote from Nathan_French_14 :

If I saw you touching my car while parking yours, I would go bloody mental. Even if you caused no scratches (which is very unlikely...) is regardless. Sounds to me like you have no respect for other peoples property.

right on.

Quote from DeKo :

The UK is the only country where people want to batter people for tiny scratches on their cars. I literally couldn't care less if someone bumped my car a couple of times.

There's at least two, since here is the same thing.

I'd go ****ing mental if someone did this to my car, and so would pretty much everyone else in the USA I expect. I honestly cannot even fathom how this is an okay thing to do in some places.

Quote from Velociround :

I didn't say "without touching", but I was extremely careful not to actually MOVE or bump any of the other two cars: both of them stayed just where they were before I started parking.

At first I didn't even touch any of the cars, until I started straightening my car. When I got to the point I couldn't move without touching them (very straight), I just went forward and backwards very slowly, just enough to slightly touch (not bump!), and then the other way around until I fit the car there. In fact, that wouldn't even count as "bumping". And as you can see on the photo (click for full resolution), there is absolutely no damage to any of the cars (not even the smallest scratching or anything).

You can clearly see that I have not moved or bumped any of the cars because of the distance my car is from them (about 1cm on front, and 2cm on the back). If I had bumped them, they would be further away. I even took care not to keep the cars "pressing" each other and leave the gaps as you can see. I was pretty fast at turning the wheel (hydraulic steering wheel) but very slow to move forwards and backwards, in order not to cause any damage.

I'm a very careful driver, and I hate it when somebody damages my car so I wouldn't want to do it to someone else's. Also, I wouldn't want to damage my car.
I'm usually quite more careful with other people's than mine.

You clearly live in a different culture than I do, out here that's grounds for an ass-whooping

if this post is true (you were the middle car? :really, that's a new guinness world record

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yivkScWuhbs

EDIT: or, you bumped them a lot as jibber said

Quote from MAGGOT :

Wow... that spotter guide is so much nicer than the ALMS ones...

That's because Andy Blackmore didn't do the illustrations. He's very professional about the entire process of keeping them up to date, but his illustrations aren't anything special...

There was a worse fireball in V8 Supercars earlier this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFG05xRM8Qw

considering that, I'd say somewhat a lack of safety. off the start line, and one backed into the wall... I mean sure, they were fairly hard hits, but I've seen way harder, all the time.

like Ford Pintos out there