RenvoN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy7gmd8XXAA

this was really good. very sad, but very well done.

Quote from BlueFlame :

You don't go flat out on a test day.

maybe you do, maybe you don't. no one knows for sure except the team

Quote from Cornys :

Also, Benny... can you trust Wikipedia on something like that? (I'd check the sources)

I'd like to think we can trust BBC, Autosport, and Reuters on this

Quote from PMD9409 :

"Then F1 should be a direct pipeline to NASCAR".

Well Montoya and Raikkonen seem to have graduated from F1 to NASCAR

but seriously now
"Olympic success seems to have little correlation with later MMA success, as many medalists hardly had distinguished careers switching to MMA."
is pretty spot on. Montoya, Marcos Ambrose etc have hardly been distinguished in NASCAR

Quote from BlueFlame :

Nascar is a different animal, think of an gold medalist Olympic wrestler coming to WWF(sorry WWE).

try Olympic wrestler to MMA

Quote from BlueFlame :

America VS Finland at motorsport is kinda like putting a Rabbit and a Dog in a cage. Everyone knows the outcome.

I can't wait for Raikkonen to come to NASCAR so I can say the opposite
Apparently even if he finishes second to Jimmie Johnson, I'll still be able to make fun of him.

Quote from BlueFlame :

The DRS and KERS just makes the tow effect more useable, in the past few years the turbulence created negated any kind of slipstream effect.

err....

The turbulence made it tough to follow closely in the corners. And then on the straights they just weren't close enough. Now the same thing applies in the corners, but the gap closes faster because there is less drag with DRS activated.

But it's still not incredibly easy to pass, but it makes it more likely. I don't know what more people wanted from that race, I was fairly entertained.

Dane Cameron really impressed me in LMPC... puts the car on the pole, wins the class, 9th overall, fastest time in his class... one to watch in the future.

this race is really good so far...

and the comentators are doing a very good job imo. I can't even imagine talking for 5 and a half hours straight, and they are still going....

that mclaren looks like it's very aroused

Quote from PMD9409 :

nice save.

this one too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... dSN4A&feature=related

How many drugs did Charlie Sheen take?

Enough to kill Two and a Half Men.

Quote from Lible :

Why not?

Ford has worked incredibly hard to establish the F150 name (and the rest of the F series) as the best truck that money can buy. Any small bit of confusion with a Ferrari is the completely wrong image. Plus Ford is American, which is a fairly big deal among their target market. I would not want my truck to in any way be perceived as Italian.

And that image is worth an incredibly large sum of money to Ford, both now and in the future.

I wouldn't want image to in any way be damaged by a racing car. Who knows what will happen during the upcoming season in the eternal circus that F1 has become?

Also, Ferrari are a bunch of ****.

In the case of the Volvo C30, I don't think the portrayed images of the two cars are as wildly opposing. And C30 isn't an iconic name like F150 is. And the logos probably aren't the exact same. But Volvo would likely have a legal case on some level.

Ferrari could have at least made the effort to choose a different font when they designed the original logo. That was bad. And I wouldn't want my trucks confused with Ferrari, though someone would have to be incredibly dumb to do so.

Quote from spookthehamster :

One reason it's there is to stop the cars from taking off when going sideways

it's there to help them not go sideways in the first place. Once they get sideways, it very probably HELPS the car take off.

Quote from BlueFlame :

It doesn't matter what it's made out of , the lack of thickness will mean it's gonna flap around, we saw the same thing in F1 when going over chicane kerbs. And you're telling me that THING on the Aston, isn't gonna flop around when it's joined ONLY by the bottom? Granted it's not as tall as I first thought.

You fail to understand my point because closed cockpit cars are FASTER. Fast meaning, top speed. And why you are talking about lift over the roof I have no idea, close cockpit cars are designed to gift downforce on the windscreen section (aswell as everywhere else that an open cockpit car generates downforce from).

Using your logic, Thrust SSC would be a good car if it was an open cockpit with a lower centre of gravity.

Yes, that thing won't flap around. It may flex a tiny amount in cornering, but this is not necessarily bad, and it will not "flap around"

Then you should have said "has a higher top speed". faster on a racing circuit generally means lap times. He is talking about lift over the roof, because the air has to travel longer over the top of the car, which causes lift. That's the general principle airplane wings work on.

WTF Thrust SSC is a landspeed car. it doesn't need downforce like that, nor does it need a low center of gravity for cornering... it does however need the lowest possible drag coefficient possible for top speed.

Last edited by RiseAgainstMe!, Thu, 3 Mar 2011 06:09.

wow great race by Bayne. Was strong through the entire race.
Happy to see him win.

Someone did pass the pace car in that race iirc. not the first round of stops, but later. I think they were a lap down (?)

Quote from JCTK :

The first pitstop behind the safety car was well, where the funniest actions were!!!!!!

That was hilarious... whoever decided to make the pace car that slow is likely not the most popular guy right now

also, only Renault knows how much fuel was in the cars during their sessions. As well as any number of other things they might have changed on the car.

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Probably because it's a fact, he was the only one on the track, he didn't carry his family on his back..

he was what 10? when his uncle died, 11 or 12 when his father died. What 10-12 year old gets to make that decision after two deaths?

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/driver/2788.html

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A talented youngster, Senna began karting when he was five, often beating his uncle in races at the family farm. However, when Bruno's father Flavio Lalli died in a motorcycle crash in 1995 shortly after Ayrton's death at Imola in 1994, his mother Viviane Senna Lalli made her son hang up his helmet.

He stayed away from the sport for the best part of ten years, but unable to ignore his passion for racing, started again aged 20, and in just his third race he qualified second in the British Formula BMW Championship. Then, at the 2004 Brazilian Grand Prix ten years after his uncle's death, he drove demonstration laps in a replica of Senna's old Lotus 98T, and the talk of his future in F1 started in earnest.

Quote from Intrepid :

However maybe Renault might employ someone like Heidfeld as a safer bet.

They have like 37 reserve drivers I would hope that at least one of them was capable of driving an F1 car decently.

I say give Senna his fair shake, but if he's sucking it up, don't waste too much time on him. Who knows, you might find a little Ayrton in him yet.

ok, 5

Quote from Intrepid :

Yh, doesn't sound good at all for him for the rest of 2011. Looks like Bruno Senna will get his chance.

why Senna, not Grosjean? more F1 experience I guess, but you can't really count HRT as F1...

best wishes to Kubica

why not just let them use it anytime they want?

I mean if both of them can use it on the main straight, so the pass isn't "artificial"... the car in front would be using the wing too. So passing would come down to the driver's skill and ability to use the wing flap as soon as possible to gain the max speed down the straight. There would be more variety of speeds down the main straight, since drivers would use the wing differently at slightly different speeds, thus passes would be more frequent but by no means artificial. And using the wing differently in the technical bits of the track could make some very exciting passes and different lines through corners.
or is my reasoning faulty?

problem I can see is it would be terribly tiring to work the wing the entire race as well as everything else that needs to happen.

Quote from Swiss-Spirit :

Was interesting to watch, but I asked myself what happened to the #40 Mazda, he led with 1 lap and then was suddenly 3-4 laps behind...

one of the drivers spun and stalled if I remember right.

Dempsey isn't Paul Newman as of yet, but his team is getting pretty respectable. If you had told me that an actor from Grey's Anatomy could finish third in the 24 hours of Daytona, I'd have taken that bet... and lost. Good on him for putting in all the effort required to get to this point despite another career.