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Chassis building.
sam93
S2 licensed
Why is there ... at the end of fatigue, is there more lol?

I don't even know where my local library is, wait, oh yes I do, it's next to co-op lol.

Or, I could just download the ebooks about it and not have to bother about the library.
Chassis building.
sam93
S2 licensed
Quote from Scrabby :True but that person probably was very smart (not offending you )

He probably was, but he may have also been very thick lol.
Chassis building.
sam93
S2 licensed
I know loads of people go on about engineering and how you have to know about it before building say a race car, but it must all be self teachable because the first person to discover this stuff had to self teach himself lol.
The inevitable picture thread II: Return of the funnies
sam93
S2 licensed
How motorways work.


My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
S2 licensed
Quote from Bawbag :Well I say bollocks to that, there's modified then there's 17 year old corsa midified.

Those parents you talk of, I bet they arn't driving little turd heaps that arn't even worth £1000, thus the mods they do actually make a differnce.

Hmm, yeah suppose, they've at least have had a couple of grand spent on them each and are all show cars.
My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
S2 licensed
Quote from Jakg :Ask the parents what mods they've done - if they don't know, then it's likely they haven't done it...

Well, you tell them what mods have been carried out on the car so if the insurance asks them, they can say what 'they've' done to it :P
My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
S2 licensed
I think my parents have unlimited NCB.

I like in Jakg's post where it says if the car is modified, it isn't the parents. The thing is, I know parents who have modified cars, so that's just bollocks in my opinion, just because it's modified, doesn't mean a young driver, drives it.

Like I said, I will most likely get my own insurance.
My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
S2 licensed
Quote from Xaid0n :As long as you own the V5, there's nothing wrong with that

It's what I have been playing for a while.

Buy the car with money I've earnt and then sell my bike, put a bit more money towards it and buy a 2000 SV650S as they insurance is only like £300-£400 for one of those, so I should be able to afford it. Going to see what my wages are like by then though before I do it.

And I am no longer in a pissed off mood lol.

Ah, off to work.
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My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
S2 licensed
No, I'm not just in the mood for gobby buggers atm.

The named driver thing was an idea, but for the extra £500, I might aswell just insure it myself, just means I will be paying close to £200 a month for insurance as I want to buy an SV650S with the money I get off of my motorbike.
My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
S2 licensed
Ffs, yes i do know what i am on about, please kindly **** off, i'm not in the mood thankyou.
My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
S2 licensed
Yes, I do know how things work, don't talk to me as if I'm thick - THANK YOU.
Chassis building.
sam93
S2 licensed
I wasn't implying that I am going to build one, I was just curious, welding isn't exactly hard once you obviously learn how to do it lol.
Chassis building.
Chassis building.
sam93
S2 licensed
I have a question about these people who buy a car and then build their own chassis for the car which weighs less (space frame chassis)

Basically my question is, if you put all mounting points in the right place and make the chassis strong enough with good welds can anyone make a chassis without going college/uni?

Everything is self teachable so I am wondering how hard it will be to teach yourself. There is a guy on Street Stylers Southwest who is building a viper kit car which is going to be used as a track car and he has built his own chassis for it and he is self taught.

What other things do you have to take into consideration when building chassis's?
My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
S2 licensed
Quote from Xaid0n :You're lucky you can get a quote that low sam, I can't get no quotes lower than £2500 for a 316 :/ bloody ridiculous.

There are certain categories that insurance go off to work out the price of your premium.

Here is the list:

A = Low Risk
F = High Risk


AB Aberdeen
10-16, 21-25, 30-39, 41-45, 51-56 . . . . . . . A

AL St Albans
1, 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
2-3, 8-10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
4-6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

B Birmingham
1-21 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer
23-26, 36, 70 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
27, 29, 31-35, 37-38, 42-44, 66-69, 71. . . . . D *
28, 30, 40, 46-47, 62-63, 72-77, 79 . . . . . . C
45, 48-50, 60, 64, 65, 78, 90-98 . . . . . . . B
61, 80 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

BA Bath
1-2, 5, 6, 8, 11-14 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
3, 7, 9-10, 15-16, 20-22 . . . . . . . . . . . A
4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C

BB Blackburn
1, 4-5, 8, 10, 12, 18 . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
2-3, 11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
6, 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . B

BD Bradford
1, 3, 4, 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer
2, 9, 10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
5, 11, 15, 19, 21 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
6, 8, 12-14, 16-18, 20, 22 . . . . . . . . . . E *
23-24 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

BH Bournemouth
1-5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
6-7, 11, 13, 15, 17-18, 25 . . . . . . . . . . .B
8-10, 12, 14, 16, 19-24, 31 . . . . . . . . . . A

BL Bolton
0-2, 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
3-5, 7-9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *

BN Brighton
1-3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
5-8, 13-14, 17, 24, 27, 41-42, 44-45 . . . . . A
9-12, 15-16, 18, 21-23, 25-26, 43 . . . . . . . B
20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C

BR Bromley
1, 3-5, 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
6, 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. C

BS Bristol
1, 3, 5, 11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer
4, 6-7, 10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
8-9, 13-16, 23, 30, 32, 34-35 . . . . . . . . . C
20, 22, 24-25, 29, 31, 39, 40-41 . . . . . . . .B
21, 26-28, 36-37, 48-49 . . . . . . . . . . . . A

CA Carlisle
1-3, 5, 7, 13, 18-21, 23-24, 26-27 . . . . . . .B
4, 6, 8-12, 15-17, 22, 25 . . . . . . . . . . . A
14, 28 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. C

CB Cambridge
1, 5, 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
2-4, 6-8, 10-11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

CF Cardiff
3, 15, 42, 61-62, 71-72 . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
5, 10-11, 14, 23-24, 63-64 . . . . . . . . . . F *
31-41, 43-48, 81-83 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *

CH Chester
1, 64-66 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. C
2-8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
41-42, 44 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
43, 45-46 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
47-49, 60-63 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. D *

CM Chelmsford
0, 2, 4, 8-9, 11-12, 17 . . . . . . . . . . . . B
1, 3, 6-7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
5, 13-14, 16, 20-24 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
15, 18 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
19 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *

CO Colchester
1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
2-3, 5, 8, 10, 15-16 . . . . . . . . . . .. . . A
4, 6-7, 9, 11-14 . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . B

CR Croydon
0, 4, 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
2, 8-9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
3, 5-6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *

CT Canterbury
1-2, 4, 6, 8-12, 16-17, 19-20 . . . . . . . . . C
3, 5, 7, 14, 18 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
13, 15, 21 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

CV Coventry
1-3, 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
4-5, 7, 11-12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
8-10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
13, 21-23, 31-34, 47 . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
35-37 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

CW Crewe
1, 3, 5, 7, 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
2, 4, 6, 8, 10-11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . C

the Dartford
1, 5, 7, 9, 10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
2-3, 6, 11-13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
8, 14-18 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . F *

DD Dundee
1-3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D*
4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
5-10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

DE Derby
1, 3, 22, 55 . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . C
4, 12, 14-15, 45 . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . A
5-7, 11, 13, 56, 65, 72-75 . . . . . . . . . . B
21, 23-24 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *

DG Dumfries
1-2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
3-14, 16 . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

DH Durham
1-3, 8 . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
6-7, 9 . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C

DL Darlington
1, 15 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
2-5, 14, 16-17. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
6-13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

DN Doncaster
1, 4-5, 11-12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
2-3, 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
7-9, 16-17, 19-20, 37-39 . . . . . . . . . . .. B
10, 14, 18, 21-22 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
15, 31, 33-34, 36, 40-41 . . . . . . . . . . .. C
32, 35 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *

DT Dorchester
1-3, 5-11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

DY Dudley
1-6, 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. C
7, 14 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
8, 10-13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

E London E
1-9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer
10-15, 17 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
18 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *

EC London EC
1-4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer

EH Edinburgh
43-46 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
26-27, 38-42, 55 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
23, 28-37, 47, 49, 51-54 . . . . . . . . .. . . C
11-13, 15-22, 24-25, 48 . . . . . . . . . . . . D*
1-10, 14 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . E *

EN Enfield
1, 5-9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
2-4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
10-11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C

EX Exeter
1-5, 8, 20, 34 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
6-7, 9-19, 21-24, 31-33, 35-39 . . . . . . . . A

FK Falkirk
1-5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
6-10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . B
11-21 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

FY Blackpool
1, 4, 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
2, 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
3, 5, 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C

G Glasgow
1-5, 11, 13-15, 20-23, 31-34, 40-42, 51, 53 . . Refer
12, 43-46, 66, 69, 71-78, 81 . . . . . . . . . E *
60-62, 64, 67-68, 82 . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
52, 63, 83-84 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
65 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C

GL Gloucester
1, 4-5, 7-11, 13, 15, 18-19, 51, 53-56 . . . .. A
2, 3, 6, 12, 14, 16-17, 20, 50, 52 . . . . . .. B

GU Guildford
1-3, 5-10, 13-17, 19-24, 27, 30-31 . . . . . . B
33-34, 46-47, 51 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
4, 11, 25, 29, 32, 35 . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
12, 18, 26, 28 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

GY Guernsey
1-9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

HA Harrow
0-2, 4, 7-9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
3, 5-6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *

HD Huddersfield
1, 6-9 . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
2-5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *

HG Harrogate
1-2, 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
3-4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

HP Hemel Hempstead
1-3, 6, 20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
4-5, 7, 10-14, 19, 21 . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
9, 15-18, 22-23 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
27 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

HR Hereford
1, 3, 5-6, 8-9 . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . A
2, 4, 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

HS Outer Hebrides
1-9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

HU Hull
1-6, 8-9, 13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
10-11, 14, 16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
12, 15, 17-20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

HX Halifax
1, 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . F *
2, 4-5, 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C

IG Ilford
1, 11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer
2, 6-8 . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
3, 9-10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
4-5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *

IM Isle of Man
1-9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

IP Ipswich
1-3, 5-23, 26-33 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
4, 24-25 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. B

IV Inverness
1-28, 30-32, 36, 40-49, 51-56, 63 . . . . . . . A

JE Jersey
1-4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

KA Kilmarnock
1-26 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
27-30 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

KT Kingston-upon-Thames
1, 3, 6, 17, 19 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
2, 4-5, 7-12 . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . D *
13-16, 18, 20-22 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
23-24 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

KW Kirkwall
1-3, 5-17 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

KY Kirkcaldy
1-16 . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

L Liverpool
1-21 . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer
22 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . F *
23, 29, 34, 38, 40 . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . D *
24-28, 30, 32-33, 35-36 . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
31, 37 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . C
39 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . B

LA Lancaster
1,3-4, 14, 19, 22-23 . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
2, 5-13, 15, 17-18, 20-21 . . . . . . . . . . . A
16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C

LD Llandrindod Wells
1-8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

LE Leicester
1-2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer
3-4, 6, 10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
7-9, 11-12, 17-18 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
13-16, 65, 67 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

LL Llandudno
11-13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
14, 29, 31, 33, 41 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
15-28, 30, 32, 34-40, 42-49, 51-78 . . . . . . A

LN Lincoln
1, 5-6, 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
2-4, 7-8, 10-13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

LS Leeds
1-13, 15-16, 19, 26-27 . . .. . . . . . . . . . F *
14, 18, 28 . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . E *
17, 21-23 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
20, 25 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . D *
24 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . A
29 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . B

LU Luton
1, 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer
2-3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
6-7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C

M Manchester
1-9, 11-24, 40, 60 . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . Refer
25-29, 32, 34-35, 38, 43, 45-46 . . . . . . . . F *
30-31, 33, 41, 44 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *

ME Medway
1-2, 4-6, 8-13, 15-17 . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
3, 7, 14 . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . D *
18-20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

MK Milton Keynes
1-5, 7, 9-15 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
8, 16-17, 19, 40-42 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
18 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
43-46 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

ML Motherwell
1-2, 6, 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
3-4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
5, 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . C
8, 10-11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . B
12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . A

N London N
1, 7, 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer
2, 4-6, 8, 10-11, 13, 15-17, 19, 22 . . . . . . F *
3, 14, 21 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
12, 18, 20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *

NE Newcastle-upon-Tyne
1, 4-6, 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer
2-3, 7, 12, 27-29, 32-33, 36-37, 39 . . . . . . F *
45 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . A
9-11, 15-17, 21, 30-31, 34, 38, 40-42, 63 . . . E *
13, 22-25, 35, 61-62, 64 . . . . . . . . . . . D *
18, 20, 26, 47 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. C
19, 43-44, 46, 48-49, 65-71 . . . . . . . . . . B

NG Nottingham
1-4, 6-8, 10-12, 16-18 . . . . .. . . . . . . . C
5, 15 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
9, 19-21, 25, 34 . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . B
13-14, 22-24, 31-33 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

NN Northampton
1-5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
6, 9, 13-16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
7-8, 10-12, 29 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
17-18 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C

NP Newport
4, 16, 18, 26 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
7-8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
10-11, 19-20, 44 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
12-13, 22-24 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
15, 25 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

NR Norwich
1-2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
3-4, 6-8, 30-31 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
9-29, 32-35 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

NW London NW
1-2, 5-6, 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer
3, 10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
4, 9, 11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D*

OL Oldham
1-5, 7-9, 15 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . F *
6, 16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer
10-14 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *

OX Oxford
1, 4 . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
2-3, 6, 10, 16, 25-27, 33, 44 . . . . . . . . . B
5, 7-9, 11-15, 17-18, 20, 28-29, 39, 49 . . . . A

PA Paisley
1, 3-4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer
2, 5-8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
9-11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
12-15, 19 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
16-20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
21-49, 60-78 . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . A

PE Peterborough
1-3, 5, 7, 20, 22 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
4, 10, 13-14, 19, 25 . . . . . . . . .. . . . . B
6, 8-9, 11-12, 15-18, 21, 23-24, 26-38 . . . . A

PH Perth
1-2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
3-26, 30-44, 49-50 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

PL Plymouth
1-3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
4-5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
6-7, 9, 20-21 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
8, 10-19, 22-35 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

PO Portsmouth
1, 3-6, 19 . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
2, 7-8, 12, 15, 17, 20-21, 30 . . . . . . . . . B
9-11, 13-14, 16, 18, 22, 31-41 . . . . . . . . A

PR Preston
1-2, 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
5-9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *

RG Reading
1-2, 4, 21, 30-31, 42 . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
5-10, 12, 14, 17-20, 22, 28-29, 40-41, 45 . . . B
23-27 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

RH Redhill
1-2, 6-9, 14, 16-18 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
4-5, 10, 12-13, 15, 19-20 . . . . . . . . . . . A
11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C

RM Romford
1, 6, 9-10, 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. F *
2-5, 11, 17-18 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
7-8, 13-16, 19-20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *

S Sheffield
1-3, 5, 7-8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer
4, 9, 11, 13-14, 60-61 . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
6, 10, 12, 20, 35-36 . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
17, 21, 25-26, 63, 70-71 . . . . . . . . . . .. D *
18, 32-33, 41, 43, 62, 64-66, 72-75, 80-81 . . .C
40, 42, 45 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .B
44 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .A

SA Swansea
1-2, 4, 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
3, 5-6, 8-13, 15 . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . D *
14, 16, 34, 40-41, 43-47, 68-69, 72 . . . . . . B
17-20, 31-33, 35-39, 42, 48, 61-67, 70-71, 73 . A

SE London SE
1-2, 4-8, 10-11, 13-19, 21-28 . . . . . . . . . F *
3, 9, 12, 20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. E *

SG Stevenage
1, 3, 5, 10-12, 15-17, 19 . . . . . . . . . . . B
2, 4, 13-14 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
6-9, 18 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

SK Stockport
1, 4, 14-16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
2-3, 5-6, 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
7, 13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
9-12, 17, 22-23 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

SL Slough
0-3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
4-6, 8-9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

SM Sutton
1, 5 . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
2-3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
4, 6 . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C

SN Swindon
1-2, 6-10, 13, 25-26 . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
3-5, 11, 14-16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . A
12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C

SO Southampton
14-19 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
20, 24, 41-43, 50-53 . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
21-23, 30-32, 40, 45 . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

SP Salisbury
1-8, 10-11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

SR Sunderland
1-5, 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
6-7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *

SS Southend-on-Sea
0-1, 6, 8, 13, 16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
2-4, 7, 9, 11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
5, 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
14-15, 17 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *

ST Stoke-on-Trent
1, 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. D *
2-3, 5-8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. C
9, 12-14, 16, 18-21 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
10-11, 15, 17 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

SW London SW
1, 3-7, 10, 12-20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
2, 8-9, 11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer

SY Shrewsbury
1-2, 4-12, 15-25 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
3, 13-14 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

TA Taunton
1-4, 6-23 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
5, 24 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

TD Galashiels
1-5, 7-10, 12-14 . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . A
6, 11, 15 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

TF Telford
1, 3, 7-8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
2, 5-6, 10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
9, 11-13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . A

TN Tonbridge
1, 4-6, 9, 11, 14, 16, 18, 22-23, 29-31,
34-36, 39-40 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .B
2-3, 7-8, 10, 12, 19-20, 24-28, 32-33, 38 . . . A
13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .D *
15, 17, 21, 37 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .C

TQ Torquay
1-2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
3-14 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

TR Truro
1-10, 12-17, 19-27 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A
11, 18 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B

TS Cleveland
1-2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer
3-4, 6, 10, 20 . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . F *
5, 7-8, 16-19, 24, 26-29 . . . . .. . . . . . . E *
9, 14, 22 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
11-13, 15, 21, 23, 25 . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *

TW Twickenham
1, 9, 11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . F *
2-3, 6-8, 10, 13-14 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
4-5, 12, 15-18 . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . D *
19-20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C

UB Southall
1-3, 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
4, 6, 10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
5, 7-8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *

W London W
1-2, 5-6, 8-9, 12, 14 . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
3-4, 7, 13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . E *
10-11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Refer

WA Warrington
1, 4-8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
3, 9-12, 15 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
14 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. E *
16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. A

WC London WC
1-2, 99 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *

WD Watford
1-3, 17-19, 23-25 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
4-5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
6-7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *

WF Wakefield
1-2, 4, 7-10, 12, 16-17 . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
3, 11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
5-6, 13-15 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *

WN Wigan
1-4, 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F *
5-6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E *
8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *

WR Worcester
1, 3, 12, 15 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
2, 4-11, 13-14 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

WS Walsall
1-6, 10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D *
7, 12-13, 15 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . B
8-9, 11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C
14 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . A

WV Wolverhampton
1-2, 12-14 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . D *
3-4, 6-8, 11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . C
5, 9-10, 15-16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . B

YO York
1, 7-8, 10-11, 16-17, 19, 23-24, 26 . . . . . . B
30-32, 41-43, 51 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B
12-15, 21-22, 25, 60-62 . . . . . . . . . . . . A
18 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C

ZE Lerwick
1-3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A

I'm in a category D part of Plymouth (even though no crime happens like that around this part) So it's £1700 TPFT for me or £1200 TPFT if my Dad takes a policy out and puts me as a named driver, if my Dad does take a policy out for me, I might go FC as it's only £1400 - an extra £200.
My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
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A Mustang as a first car in England? lol, do you know how high the insurance prices are in the UK?

I would be getting an E36 318is if the insurance wasn't high, but the 316i is £1,700 TPFT whereas for an extra 40bhp and a bit more torque, the 318is is £3,000.

So really, it's the best BMW I can get for cheapish insurance costs.
The bad jokes thread
sam93
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Quote from 5haz :have you seen stevie wonder's wife?

No, neither has he.

old!!!!
My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
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I may get a E36 as what I was going to do to the E30 has been done before down here and the guy is now taking it to the next stage of cutting away metal that isn't needed, for example where the spare wheel goes and is then getting replaced with light alloy sheets, basically a pure track car/race car.

So I am now going to do my plans on a E36 instead.
My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
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Quote from Nathan_French_14 :Stop saying "lol" so much!

Yes, my mondeo is pretty rice but i like the way it looks. The stupid spoiler got removed, as did the bonnet but the kit is saying. Sure, some people dont like it, but its down to preference.

And FYI, the only cars i call rice, are ones that are purely cosmetic, like corsas that get cash spent on them to "look" fast, and those cars that have stupidly stretched tyres so that they cant take a corner.

Sure, my mondy has a kit, but atleast its got the power to back it up, and it can also take corners well and stops well. Just look out for the speed bumps!

And just to add, the only reason im holding onto this car is because its been in the samily since 2000, and i genuinely love it. If i wanted a hardcore sports car, then i would drive the M3 or the Pug. The mondeos more of a "LOOK AT ME, IM A CHAV" car, yet it can also take corners if you wanted it to.

Oh, and edit number 2. Your one to talk sam!
Who was the one that was excited because he might be getting his brothers bodykitted Corsa for a first car? Sure, my mondeo looks ricey, but i bet if we posted comparision pics on here and told people to pick one to drive, then they would pick mine.

I don't even notice that I put lol half of the time.

Hmm, everyone has their likes and dislikes lol.

If I get a Skyline for my next car (R33 GTST) when I'm about 20/21 I already have plans for it, if the R34 Turbo has came down by then I will get the R34 instead, same type of mods will still come a long anyway. Skyline engines are suppose to be nice to tune also, so will deffently have the power to back it up, will get the cosmetics and such like done first though as they will end up costing more.

Yay, one who reply without using the word .
My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
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Quote from Nathan_French_14 :I doubt you would be saying that if you came out for a ride in mine.
Although the bodykit will make you laugh, which i cant blame you for.

Either way, there actually very good, honest cars. The newer models more so.
You could probably get insured on a 1.6 model relatively cheaply, as there "under the radar" in terms of typical first cars, as alot of the boy racers see them as an old mans car, which is good. There not particularly fast, and the interiors are'nt the greatest, but they handle well and are fairly reliable.

I was taking the piss and being sarcy lol.

Yes they are reliable, but I don't see myself every owning one, only reason why my Dad has one is because they are pretty cheap to buy and it doesn't matter if it gets dirty inside lol.

I do like the way though you call people ricers when your Mondeo is bloody terrible looking lol, are you going to get rid of that hidious bodykit lol.
Save the dogs in south korea
sam93
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Quote from 5haz :Funny how nobody has any problem with Chickens, Turkeys, Cows or Pigs being strangled, burned, electrocuted or beaten to death for their meat.

Thats been a way of life for many, many years now though. Dogs are family animals and actually help people out a lot.

As soon as you read such thing happening to a dog, you should think to yourself 'how could people be so cruel to a dog' not what you though :P
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sam93
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Quote from Nathan_French_14 :Whats a "mondeo lol"? Is that a new model?

Yes it is, every part of the car makes your burst out laughing :P
My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
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Quote from Nathan_French_14 :Well you obviously did'nt read what i said. Yes the TD engines (even though they are unrefined, slow, and an old design) are more reliable, as are the petrol zetecs, but they all still have there problems.

My point was that if you ever wanted to go down the mondeo/cougar V6 route, was to avoid the 2.5 V6 and stick a 3.0 V6 in it, due to the fact that the 2.5's are weak engines and dont like being driven hard for a long time, comparing to the ST220 engine which loves to take a beating.

I don't think I would ever own a mondeo lol.
My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
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Quote from Nathan_French_14 :What engine is in it? And fyi, i was'nt the one that blew the 2.5, that was my brother. It's still a much weaker engine in comparision to the ST220 engine in it now though, hence why noble now use the 3.0 instead of the 2.5, as the 3.0 can take turbos/supercharger on standard internals upto about 450hp, then they need to be uprated.

Don't know what size engine it is but it's a turbo diesel, the TD engines they use in the Mondeos it seems if you keep them maintained they will keep on going lol.

Quote from Agniz :Fast? He is looking for a 316 lol, not 323/25/28.

For a first car they are pretty quick, still reach 60 in about 11-12seconds which is pretty quick for a first car. If I get a E30 touring, the interior wont be staying for very long lol, stripped right out.
My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
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Quote from Nathan_French_14 :Even a 2.0 4 cylinder version of this car would be too expensive to insure. Also, the 2.5 V6 is not reliable. The water pumps shatter easily, and the top ends suffer from wear. You also cant let the oil get below 3/4 full, as you will slowly damage the con-rods and and the crank. My mondeo started with the same 170hp engine, and it was a nice sound but very slow. If sam ever did get a mondeo/cougar V6, then he would be best fitting the 3.0 ST220 engine from the Mondeo. Its 220hp from stock, and alot stronger. I've since had no problems with mine, and its been a peach. The 2.5 that came with my car soon blew up in no time.

You blew one up, my Dads Mondeo estate that he uses for work has over 200k miles and is still going strong, saying that though, the engine is well looked after.
My first car - What's your recommendations?
sam93
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He couldn't afford the parts most likely, I think they come with a LSD on them which breaks all the time. With it being a mercedes and cosworth parts wont be cheap.

Just get the E30 Ginho
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