Quote from Madman_CZ :

ermm.. could some one point me to where I could find the sound track?

I some how have missed this..

thanks

Mad

I 2nd this.

Quote from Blaeza :

Is this a tweak for patch V then? If so, WOOHOO!

It's just a sign that tells them that they should spend more time on real life things if they manage to get a car into LFS .

Shame the cars will never get released .

I take it "that" is not going to be featured in the new LFSTweak?

Last edited by seggons, Sun 28 Jan 2007, 22:41.

Things I still need to get for it :

Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 11 500GB
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Edition DVD - OEM
Logitech G25 Racing Wheel
Dell E207WFP 20" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black
Hauppauge WinTV HVR-4000 Freeview/Digital Satellite TV Tuner

Total for the above: £751. By that time I'll have to upgrade my computer again. Amazing how technology develops .

Anyone know what the state of play is with the logi G25? I've been reading alot of bad reviews on it on the RSC forum. Have they fixed the pedals and created problems in the wheel and gearstick? Or is it only a batch that had got problems?

Cheers for anyone that can help with my next "investment".

My complete setup:


http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4797/sta70373gs0.jpg

Picture Time .

The computer from my POV:


http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6598/sta70374xb6.jpg

Top down picture looking at the huge fan:


http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2589/sta70376pc3.jpg

Computer with side panel on:


http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3460/sta70385ff4.jpg

Computer without the side panel on:


http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/765/sta70377ip2.jpg

Bottom half of the computer. (From bottom up, PSU, TV card, the huge 8800GTS):


http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2883/sta70380zd3.jpg

Top of of the computer:


http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7613/sta70381xc2.jpg

Bottom of the case looking up at the top 200mm fan:


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Top half of the case from behind:


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Bottom half of the case from behind:


http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3637/sta70384oa7.jpg

The run I did with 3d mark 05 with everything at normal rates is 13505.

Got the motherboard and PSU Tuesday at work, and got it all in and together when I got home. Took me 5 hours in total but I am over the moon I got it together by myself and not one problem along the way.
Been so busy getting it setup and what-not that I've not had time to post.

The system is A-mazing, 16x AA and 16x AF, Gamma Correction, Super Transparency AA etc ... Hovers at 200 fps on my own, and around 70 fps from the trackside camera's on mutiplayer.

The case and all the fans are almost silent and I'm sitting right next to it.

Pictures and things I will do at the weekend, in the mean-time. I got more gaming to do ...

P.S, cheers for the help Forbin about the fans. All running off 1 perhiaral cable

http://seggons.gom-team.com/Images/Inside.JPG

As you can see from the image above, all the fan power cable are pretty long. I guess the rule is, the length of the cable, the more power loss? If so would it be safe to do 2 fan cable to 1 peripheral cable?
And is if safe to put cables behind the motherboard so hide them from view?

Quote from Forbin :

Yeah, that's what's known as a 4-pin MOLEX connector. One is for powering the fan, the other ensures that you don't lose a power connector (essentially an integrated Y-splitter). The only disadvantage is the motherboard can't control the speed of the fan. You can get around that with a resistor/potentiometer, though.

So do I plug all 4 of them into the PSU's peripheral cables?
http://www.ocztechnology.com/i ... essories/b/Cables_GXS.jpg

Or do I connect all 4 of them together and use 1 of the peripheral cables?

Got a question about the fan plugs on my new case

http://seggons.gom-team.com/Images/STA70346.JPG
http://seggons.gom-team.com/Images/STA70347.JPG

In the 2 images above are the plugs from my fan. From studying the motherboard manual, all the fan connection (bar the heatsink fan) are all 3 pin connections. How do I go about plugging the connection in the above pic into the motherboard?
Or does that plug into 1 of the PSU connections?

I have been looking in my current case, but all the fans have 3 pin plugs that plug stright into the motherboard. I just don't understand how I plug them fan connection into the motherboard when there 4 pin plugs and the motherboard is 3 pin connection?

Quote from Davo :

You will need to install a fresh copy of windows. Don't even bother with your old instal, it won't boot.

Thanks alot for informing me. I will spend this weekend sorting my hard drives out so I have a empty partition to install Media Center on when I setup my new computer.

btw, is it safe to delete some of the windows files on a non-working OS? I have 3 of the same OS on this HD and 2 of them are screwed because of something I've done or a windows update that went wrong.
If I could delete the Windows folder, that would save me 2.6 GB on that alone.

Motherboard was released on Overclockers about 30 mins ago and I order that, and the PSU 20 mins ago. Will be delivered Tuesday. So if everything goes well and I don't brake anything, then it should be up and running by Tuesday night unless Windows locks itself because of all the new parts.

I'll keep you all updated, but now I have to wait till the mobo is released, going to pre-order it Wednesday if my cheques clear .

Just to update you all as you've been extremely helpful with this.
I've just ordered:

1 GB of cheap Ebuyer Ram
BFG Geforce 8800 GTS
Core 2 Duo E6600
Antec Nine Hundred Case

All of that was ordered with Ebuyer as Overclockers seems to add 10% on top of the prices. The other stuff was not avalible through Ebuyer so that will be coming with Overclockers.
I'll be ordering the other parts when I can next get some money in the bank and for it to clear. I'm not in too much of a rush for the other parts as the motherboard is not released till Friday as Overclockers displays.

With ordering three quaters of the stuff with Ebuyer I've managed to save myself £96.42 (that's inc VAT, Tax, Delivery).

The intresting part is going to be me building it as I've never built a PC in my life, any tips?

Thanks alot one and all, you've all been great .

Quote from LFSn00b :

Check my sig XD

Looks good apart from the fact your using Bean0's bar.

Just to let you know, I'll be using my 2 SATA Hard Drives from the computer I'm on now so I don't have to get another one ... for now .

A couple of hours ago the Ram got me thinking. What's the point in getting 2 GB of cheap ram when I'm going to upgrade it again when I've got the money?
So my line of thinking was why don't I just get 1 GB of cheap ram just to tide me over for a month or 2 and put the money I've saved to one side until I have enough money to get a decent pair of 1 GB sticks.

What do you think?

I've amended the first post to a better motherboard. Although there doesn't seem to be any reviews out there for it I am going to go with it because:

- It is Quad Core ready
- It has 3 PCI-E slots (2 at 16x speed and 1 at 8x speed)
- It looks more feature full
- It appeals to me more and looks more "future proof".

I may start to order it this weekend hopefully if all looks good.

Quote from niffer022 :

ah never new that, cheers for link.. means i dont have to save up £350 for the full edition now whoo hooo

Save even more money by buying the OEM version of it unless you like paying £132.78 for a fancy manual and a box?

Note: If you do go for the OEM version pick the right one. Retail Vista has 32 and 64-bit on the same DVD, but the OEM you have to pick which DVD you want.

Quote from Jakg :

Both the mobo and the PSU are good, that mobo is ok mobo to have for a Core 2 Duo, although i didn't know it was SLi?

If you want to know which mobo to buy, then check this FAQ - it's pretty helpful!

The motherboard has 2 16x PCI-E slots on it, but your link might perswade me to pay an extra £20 and get this board.
I donno, I'll have to do some more reading up on it.

Quote from niffer022 :

why go for vista home, if your gonna get vista mate you might as well spend on it and buy ultimate.....

That was the original plan till I looked here to see that Premium had the whole fancy look Aero theme and Window Media Center which is all I really want. Ultimate only seems to have stuff I would never use and a bigger price tag.

I'm hopeing the CPU comes with a stock fan. I will be adding new coolers on things over time aswell as better ram. I just want to get the big parts together and running, earn more money and upgrade things when I can.

The case has 2 120mm fans at the front, 200mm fan at the top of the case, 1 at the back plus the PSU fan, aswell as another 2 fan I can add to it. I'm hopeing that will do for now until I get some more money together.

My main concern is the PSU and Motherboard and weather it's all compatable with one-another.

I've been pondering the internet and I want to jump ship from my computer within in the next couple of months. That way I haven't got to rush into buying my new parts and I can still make some money from my computer.

I started by looking at what I can upgrade on my computer first. Like a 8800 in place of my 7800GT, but the 8800 requires a new PSU that has 2x PCI-e connectors. After that I will want to upgrade my CPU in a few months and that will mean a new motherboard due to the shortage of Socket 939 CPU's.

So to cut all the fuss I can going to buy all new hardware basicly. Here is the list I have so far:

Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming case - The reason I have chosen that is my cases airflow is rubbish and hot air just doesn't escape. I have also been reading some reviews on it and there all pretty positive about the case, no real big faults.

OCZ GameXStream 700w - I've picked that because it's got 2 PCI-E connectors for the 8800 GTS. The one review I had read about it so far seems positive and if graphics cards get any more power hungry then I should be safe with that. If there is a better one to pick I'm all ears.

OcUK 2GB (2x1GB) PC2-6400 800MHz DDR2 Dual Channel Kit - Yes I know your all going to say that I'll be better with PC2-8000 Ram that costs 2, 3 hundred pound but I'm not going to be overclocking the new system any time soon so cheap ram should do while I try and patch the hole I would've made buying this all.

BFG GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB - I was going to get the GTX, but I reckon it will take at least a year before the GTS will get properly tested, at that point the GTX or whatever is out then would've dropped a 100 pound or so.

Intel Core 2 DUO E6600 - I was going to go with the 6700 but the £200 jump is a bit too much, and I heard pretty good views on this CPU. I'm sure if I needed the extra power it could be OC to something like the 6700.

Asus P5N32-E SLi nForce 680 - Something else I'm not too great on, motherboards. If it was AMD then I would find it alot easier, but I've never brought parts for a Intel system before so I don't how good that motherboard is or if there's a better one for the same sort'a price. All I know is that it must have PCI-E x16 twice for SLI if I ever choose that route.

Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit OEM - I actually quite liked the beta's and as my system is inclined to Direct X 10 then it's a obvious choice.

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g) - I don't honestly know anything about thermal glues, I've only picked that because it's talked about alot. If someone could tell me what it does, where it's put and the idea of it I would greatly appreciate it.

The above system will come to about £1,107.87 inc VAT in total from Overclockers.co.uk and that is my max budget. Like I said this will be brought over time, Case first then maybe the PSU etc till I only have the main parts like the CPU, graphics card, Ram and motherboard. I'm hopeing that way I can put my wages in the bank as I spend them, rather then buy it all at once and have no money for a while.

I will be using my Hard Drives, Floppy and CD-rom drive and other cards (Tv, sound etc) from my computer I'm using now.
If you can think of anything else I will need or anything that needs adjusting (a part or maybe upgrade something) please leave a post.

Last edited by seggons, Wed 10 Jan 2007, 22:58.

My diet is horrid, but I like it .

When I first wake up I have 2 small chocolate bars, with a cup of coffee. Then in the morning at work I have a cup of tea waiting for me.
For lunch I normally have a Ham, mayo, salard in a bap (salard makes it feel healthy) .
Then after work consists of a pot noddle or some other unhealthy snack and a good handful of chocolate bars.

So all in all I reckon I have another 30 years left with that diet before it's all too much for my heart.

Quote from farcar :

just a friendly dig at a car I can't drive very well...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf2arO9RABQ

Great movie . The only thing that I would've added is some Jeremy Clarkson one liners .

It's going to be made more complicated when quad cores are about. If it does get coded into LFS, who knows how many cores we will have available to us? Can anyone say google core.