Quote from joshdifabio :

Do you guys really believe that adjusting times for each team based on the first 200 minutes of the race could possibly be a good idea? This would make on-track passes completely irrelevant, and what happens if a team is 'virtually' 3 minutes behind another? When do you decide that a gap equates to a lap?

Go and actually think through the logistics of it and maybe you'll understand why it's such a crap idea.

We do understand the logistics behind it, but we completed the race with the understanding that the results will be added up. It's so easy to say things after they happend. I know how you'd feel in our position, so quit to act like we're morons.

Atleast we all know what would have happend if the server made it 12 hours
/edit: and Rudy's PC too :P

edited my post into a reasonable one (not that it will take away my anger about this case)

Last edited by Thommm, Thu, 9 Oct 2008 13:49.

At first I wanted to write a complety story about wrongs and rights, but in the end you won't listen to what I have to say anyway. Needless to say I'm speachless about the decision beeing made, endurance racing is about who drives the longest distance and in this case that was us. All the redflag bullshit is just pointless.. I understand you want to be as real as possible but the are boundaries, and I stronly feel this is where the line was crossed. We can't timeout in real life, can we? Period.

Last edited by Thommm, Thu, 9 Oct 2008 13:39.

I hope something is done with the most convincing poll results ever

heh, thats funny I thought of something similar before.. But I don't have the skills so, great job

edit: seems like NIKI and me are on the same bandwith LOL

• Lap 155
• F1RST Racing GT2 (#35) / #low-racing (#02)
• lap 155/sector 1/time (Lap 4 for F1RST Racing because of the disco)
• #02 divebombed (#35) hard and drove in to the side of the car. Causing damage to both cars. No overlap obtained before braking.

Replay: http://www.thomm.nl/low.mpr ..Once again mprEdit wat failing, but the incident is only 4 laps into the replay

Quote from Sandiki :

T. Arends, i think that u will have same advantage if race restart...

Thought u meant to say a full restart, sorry

Quote from Sandiki :

There were several discs at first 2h of the race... it would be the best solution to res the race... because there is to many discs through all the race...

And lose an advantage of 1:40 mins to number 2, no wai

Updated protest post: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=940876#post940876

• Lap 69
• Cars #2 and #35
• Turn 1
• Too agressive overtaking by #2 leaving #35 no space at all and a little tap. This wasn't the first but the third time, only by #2!

/edit: we dont have the replay since Bas is still driving
/edit#2: we got the replay here: http://f1rst.cyxian.nl/moe1.mpr ..However the mprEdit doesn't seem to work so you'll have to skip to lap 69, sorry :/

Last edited by Thommm, Sat, 4 Oct 2008 12:04.

awesome job, thanks dwb

awesome o/

Quote from Vinnylegends :

Bad and slow material ruins your drivingstyle as you adapt to the bad kart. And you are used to alot of under and oversteer. See it as a damaged BF1. You dont wanna drive it when it is damaged.
Im only in when we have a good track and some good karts.

I don't really know what you're trying to say, because you can readapt to your own kart within a lap or two. Besides that a kart never handles the same on two different days, so getting used to sudden over or understeer hurts nobody. Imho it sounds like an excuse for only going to the meeting when you like the track and karts, bit selfish.

Quote from Becky Rose :

On a long circuit with 1 engine the kiddies are going to be untouchable.

I'll just bump 'em off, no problem

Quote from Vinnylegends :

But i just quit on indoor karting and now we are going to drive shit karts again ( sorry ). So that will have negative effects on my driving style.

I don't see how driving slower karts can have a negative influence on your driving style, care to explain? Because I think that driving whatever kart on whatever track is good for your driving style or adaptiveness as I like to call it.

I've been looking around on some track websites and I think renting pro-karts would be abit too much for the the average wallet. Besides that Berghem can offer us not only good karts, but also a wide variety of arrangements. Note that from this list I've only been to Driebergen (haven't driven the rental karts there but they looked slow) an Berghem. Oldenzaal seems to have a good deal too, but the location is even worse then Berghem. The rest seems to be even worse tbh.

I'm still in for some laps at Berghem

Quote from traxxion :

Whoops, just noticed... Sensation White is probably 4th of july 2009

I can feel the combo coming

/edit: I hope my car even makes it to the karting track, driving a tour wouldnt be wise

Hmm dunno what u mean TBH Chris..
A prokart is a kart with 2 Honda GX160(cc) engines 5.5 hp each..

Besides that the cc of the kart is just a number with no meaning imo, most kartcentres dont use the maximum of the engine. 270cc sounds like alot more maybe but infact a well prepared 200cc might be faster.. Personal experiences are WAY more valueable then the engine displacement..

Quote from Kaw :

June = Sun = Karting Fun = Kaw is gonna pwn! And June = No school exam's = Good month to put it in! Oh and according to Rene: June = Sensation White = YES!

U talked waaaaaaaaay too much with him
/edit sun + NL = no

Quote from Biohazard :

most of the tracks are outdoor - i suppose the weather just won't be good enough this year anymore to have fun on an outdoor kart track.

Slicks + rain = fun

Though Driebergen is alot closer to my home, I still voted Berghem. I've driven a private kart (prokart) on Driebergen lately, and I must say I was suprised by the slowness of the rental karts. Besides that Berghem offers us alot more arrangements and dinner options. I've driven the rental karts there (with F1RST Racing ) and they seem much faster then in Driebergen. That might be due to the track beeing alot faster (= more fun).

Quote from Darkone55 :

Heh, dan moet ik ook wel he... :P

Als Basje komt, moet ik ook eh

Oval times don't bother me at all..

Besides that a fast (quali)lap is comparable to a hotlap, every combo I can race fast online I can hotlap fast without beeing raped by the validator..

I think the WR is a good way to see what my times are doing

BTW before you start making fun of someone else's laptimes try and improve your own.. Don't forget to blame the shifter :')

Quote from Stigpt :

Rudy Van Buren has the FOX KY2r WR and uses manual

The formula XR is sequential )

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