Quote from Faultygearbox :

How is that trolling?
Yesterday, I was in such an arranged race (27 laps) and all went perfectly smoothly, as the people involved were serious.

cool story troll

Quote from Waste Me :

TRKAC,
The good thing about this sim is if you like it you buy S2 and stay, if you do not you go.
If you want to come back you can, manly folk are helpful the rest,,, tossers.
Really no diffrent to RF2, CARS, GTA and on and on.
The banter is good and most pepole are treate well.
If you want fun on the servers its there but so is the hard core.
Enjoy what you do and live the life you want, as will we!

ok troll now spam off -)

peace

Quote from Joku123 :

Have you tried force mode?

what is that kid? a mode for kids where you are forced to use a cockpit view? lol that really is pathetic.Hay kiddo make sure to wear a helmet,you know it is a simulation....

kids -)

peace

Quote from MadCatX :

Actually it's you who has no idea how the physics behind the car's motion works. The first effect is called "oversteering". A front engine rear driven car like XRG will oversteer a lot because there is no mass in the back that would "push" the wheels to the surface. When you add too much throttle, the wheels start spinning and the car slides.
The second effect is "understeering". 6th grade physics tells you that the faster an object moves, the higher force is needed to change it's direction by certain amount at a given distance, and tyres can only produce so much force. Simply put, the faster you drive, the worse the car will turn.

BTW, a friendly advice: Calling someone who was genuinely trying to help you "slow" is a quick way to earn yourself a ban.

Cool story troll,now spam off -)

kids

Quote from Speed Senna :

You can drive wrong way and hit others also here:


And now saying that's not simulator anymore?

that is just sad

Quote from Whiskey :

Nah, I've already got to Max knownledge level

LFS IS a simulator, and 99% of people agree that it works in the right way in terms of simulating any car reaction.

If you don't agree with anything in this game, then you obviously don't understand what simulation is. As somebody already said, this game seems not to be compatible with your likings

if you dont want this game ti improve then leave and stop troling kid

Quote from TFalke55 :

Wait? The sense of a Racing Simulation is to recreate the real life's car behaviour in terms of physics, race feel, and and and... Of course, it is never reallife, never ever, and we know that. Still this is the philosophy of the game.

You know, there are actually real race drivers among us in these forums. One of them appears on the Entry List of F3 Euro Series, another license owner appeared as test driver for a Formula 1 team. Several others are gentlemen racers. I'm also a reallife car owner, and road driver, still I also have been to a race track more then once and still I don't know what you mean. so don't just. The whole time you judge others by one's own standards, which is the most immature behaviour one can think of.

Son go play demolition derby

Quote from MadCatX :

Just because you can't simulate all aspects of the real life in a video game doesn't mean you should dumb the simulation down on purpose.

Simulation tries to get as real as possible, period. It usually has a steep learning curve and targets a specific audience. LFS is a simulation. Arcade on the other hand utilizes a simple and accessible gaming system everybody can master in a few minutes and have fun. DiRT is an arcade.
If you cannot see the difference between these two, I'm afraid any further discussion on this topic will be impossible.

[QUOTE=Sobis;1700825]I guess we all are just too jung for him


kid in real life race car driver usually dont go and hit other cars on purpose,and this is a simulation but at least it aint a failed one like some others,if you dont like the castom cam options then go play some other games
only thing i do agree with you is that there should not be any crash servers,or if kids want that then make unrealistic hitting like i suggested for that mode

Quote from bishtop :

if you win the race or place in top 3 then there is a 'clapping of hands' and winner ect notification

not enough

Quote from Inouva :

Thank you for showing us how retarded you are.
I'm done with you.

bye troll

Quote from FPVaaron :

Son, I am ashamed that you turned into such a messed up little kid.

peace

Quote from Flame CZE :

Try to find some setups at www.setupgrid.net and see if it makes some difference. And be careful on the throttle, begin going a bit slower and keep speeding up as you do some laps. I hope it helps.

i will check that out

Quote from CodeLyoko1 :

thnx you tasted well. btw. Still cant handle the XRG?

I tested well?! Lol kid how come you even play a racing game? I did not know that things like you even like cars,go play with dolls -)


peace

Quote from Ki-Men :

‚
You are ridiculus.
In any league iff you dont obay to rules of behavior on track and rules for racing you will be banned from league and server.

cool story toll,now spam off

peace

for me now the bumper view is the best,i love that i can set the height of it and other custom cam options

Quote from Si Mclaren :

Please, watch F1, Indycar Series, NASCAR or any other racing category.

Racing is just start to run, run, run, then the race ends and they park the cars anywhere, then goes to other track in other week...
In LFS there are not these trucks taking the cars from a track to other, so another race just starts again so people can race more...


Also, you said about crashers in other thread, i can help you, no trolling, just tips from a man to a man:

There are 5 types of servers: (Good) Racing, (Bad) Racing, Cruise, Drift and Crashing...

If you enter a server called "Crash", its just for crashing and driving wrong way, etc... If you want race thats is not the right place.

If you want fair race, search a good racing server... [AA], Redline Racing, there are good (and fair) drivers where you can find good racing and no crashing (no crashing on purpose, of course.... Everyone makes mistakes on track sometimes)...



I tried to be peaceful and im talking from man to man, im hoping to you show some respect please...

I just tried to play on AA server,it was not very populated,but ok.there was no hitting but it is irritating when a formula goes by you BUT the problem is that at the end of the race nothing happens,not even a sound effect practice,racing it all feels the same and in real life after you finish the race you dont just park the car somewhere..

Quote from Inouva :

You have Air Atack servers[AA] For be a demo server they have a good lvl of drivers, time to time i scape a bit there to have a good race on xfg

Also, servers as RedLine Racers are pretty good too, both servers have admins all the time controling that there is no crashers or bad behaivoir

Also Cargame have a Demo server with great racers quality.

To add a bit more, if you really wanna try exelent quality race buy s2 and come to cargame.nl S2 or RR s2 or you just can run on a legue where the quality of the races is pure awesomes and no i'm not trolling this time

please TRKAC try to be more mature and double think what you are posting, ppl is starting to loose "Respect/credibility" on whatever you post on this forums.

Listen to our seggestion's like sobis told.
Follow our advise and you will find what you are looking for
Also if you dont like how LFS is working or what offers, you can try rFactor where you need 100gb of mod / tracks to TRY to race in one server, Or you can try iRacing where you waste your money to race whatever they choose to race, or you can try GTR2 where is really dead MP now and the few servers online they are worst that a demo sv here, Or you can try Netkar Pro...

IDK what else to say to you, really try to be more "Open minded".

Best regards

Kid just a tip for you ,this is "Improvement Suggestions" part of the forum,ok little troll? now spam off

kids -)

Quote from FPVaaron :

Son, I am ashamed that you turned into such a messed up little kid.

eat -)

Quote from Whiskey :

Yeah, like if Victor could not edit registration date

It was fun to read this guy, now it is just getting annoying how he could be that...messed up understanding what "simulation" means

Son stay in school and dont take drugs

Quote from Sobis :

We all know that this isn't real life, but we want it to be as close as possible, so could you logically explain what's the point of adding unrealistic things? And son, please don't write I'm trolling. I'm trying to build a mature conversation here.

A lot of kids here dont know that.lfs aint real life,when you start with that premise you can understand why some things should not be realistic

Quote from MadCatX :

LOL, if it wasn't for his registration date, I'd seriously start to think that Vic got bored and wrote some Auto-Troll plugin for vBulletin to keep us occupied and get us off Scawen's back.

You should "start to think" kid

peace

Quote from TFalke55 :

You repeat yourself but I want you to answer my question.

Did you read my post over and over again? do that son,the answer is there

Quote from Sobis :

lol I was right!

Hay i think i owned you in one of my threads,you should check them out

Quote from TypeRacing :

It may be becose of speed sensitive steering. You can adjust it under control settings - advanced - speed sensitive steering(for Race07).

I tried difrent settings but it had no effect

Quote from tristancliffe :

It's probably you doing it wrong. The perception of speed, rate of turn and amount of over/understeer varies between games (even when you think you're using the same settings in each).

Given your other topics, I'd hazard a guess it's what your doing to the controls rather than what the sims are doing in reaction to that.

yes and no,I have found out what is the cause of that. It was so irrtating

Quote from Breizh :

They're mostly right (assuming you havent been using some fubar setup). The cars in natural settings handle well enough to let beginners learn enough to drive em up to pretty good laptimes.

Watch some of your replays with that problematic handling and turn forces display on (F key). Watch for what it is you do that triggers loss of traction. Watch others' replays from the same or similar corners.

As a general rule, the simpler and smoother your control inputs, the better. Don't fight with the car.

Lol kid no offense but you really dont know what you are talking about,maybe you cant read,maybe you are just a little "slow" up there ,who knows.
Like i said on default settings the car handling sucks,180 degrees spins at 20 km/h,cant turn the wheels enough on higher speeds

but i did manage to make it better by changing some settings,lol I guess trolls here did not know that

peace

Quote from Tomba(FIN) :

please save us a replay of you driving

Lol beg kid beg -)

Quote from CodeLyoko1 :

+1 for laugh

You ok there little troll? You still hungry? -)

Lol kids I am sorry but you should know that this is not real,you aint a real race car driver -)
I am still hoping that you are all just trolling,it would be sad if you are all really so dumb lol

peace

I tried to play dirt2,and one thing happens when you hit an opponent from the back=NOTHING,you are just stuck and you can keep driving with your view completely blocked or slow down so you aint stuck on his car

why cant the car collision in this game be non realistic? so if you hit opponent car nothing happens,if you hit him on the side he does not turn

you could still add time penalty for hitting

it is arcade style but some things are better when they are not so realistic

and i still think cars going the opposite way should become ghost cars,better then to kick people,they would get bored maybe and start playing for real

In lfs demo with GTI,i go 140 km/h,i do a fast full turn right with my wheel and the car does what I would expect in real life,maybe a fliping of the car would be expected also but still
in GTR,race injection on lower speeds the car behaves like GTI in lfs demo,BUT when i go with same speed=140 km/h and i do the fast turn with my wheel cars dont go that much in that direction,it is like the game is preventing that
i tried to turn off all assist but still it does not feel right

GTI in lfs feels like driving a real car,other racing games dont really have that

am i missing something,some settings? GTR2 has very high ratings,people say it is a great sim game

I posted the same question there,better to hear from both sides

Quote from bishtop :

You call us trolls when in fact if you used your braincells and looked at every post weve made on this forum then you would find that most of our post are always on subject,also i stick with my original conclusion that your someone just on a trolling trap

"we" wow is this a borg forum?

Quote from TFalke55 :

still waiting

son,if you aint trolling then you just aint very smart,you just need to read my threads over and over again and then your resons to them

peace

Quote from Sobis :

I don't think you'll ever get a direct answer. Instead, he will go around it and call you his son.

lol

Quote from Faultygearbox :

Yes, even without obvious blood ties, and even if he thinks they're uneducated, he wants to call them his children.

Oh.

He's Jesus.

I laughed for real

Quote from Sobis :

How can you say it's the same on other servers when you didn't even drive in them? You shouldn't go to a crash server and expect clean racing. As I said, try AA or Redline servers. Drive there for AT LEAST 30 mins and then say what you think.

wrong thread

Quote from nl2dav :

Yes, peace.

But if it takes you two full years to drive 16 laps you seriously need to consider some platform which is easier to understand for you, really.

I have a Wii here too for the kids.

wait,so the point aint to be the slowest?!

Quote from FPVaaron :

Seriously Devs/mods... why hasn't TRKAC been banned yet?

Obvious troll is obvious.

yes,beg,just like you do in real life -)

lol kid if you have nothing constructive to say then at least learn to troll,right now you are just sad

peace

lol so many trolls here.poor things I guess no one was feeding them -)

Quote from boothy :

You joined a server called PVL Crash & Fun, what were you expecting?

it was the same on other servers

Quote from Skagen :

The demo provides a demonstration of technicallities with the simulator. But it's not a demonstration of the community you can accsess with a S2 license. People who have bought the license are a bit more serious about the game (or simulator as these people insist it should be called) compared to the free demo racers.
Just look at the big events and the effort people put into it.

No thanks,why would i pay to play against trolls on this forum. Sorry i know probably most of them are just non educated kids but still...

Quote from CheerioDM :

I would like to hear the story of the best contribution to the LFS community and developers in the past year of development.
This would be voted on by replies and evidence backed up by the members.

Cheerio

me

last time edited by lfs forum member smarter then 99& of other here

Quote from Breizh :

Two wrongs make right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI


TRKAC-
The XRG is rear wheel drive. Basic physics means that the rear end will slip very differently from a car where the front wheels are putting the power down and/or spinning.

Experiment with a car, any car, foot completely off the gas pedal, and braking into a corner -- with varying front/rear brake biases. It shouldn't take long for you to get the eureka moment you're apparently missing.

If you (magically, instantaneously) put a car into a perfectly sideways (90deg, perpendicular to where car points at) slide, with the front wheels over ice and rear wheels over asphalt, what will happen? IE which end of the car will keep sliding and which one will grip and slow down? And inherently, which way will the car rotate?

Now imagine the same experiment with the car over homogeneous surface (e.g. both front and rear on asphalt) but with the rear wheels spinning. Which wheels have more traction and which way does the car therefore rotate?

You are doing the cornering equivalent of a forward burnout. In a forward burnout you're not making much forward acceleration because the power is not transferred to the ground. In your described XRG cornering you're not making much sideways acceleration because you're going way too far beyond the front and/or rear tires' limits.

The above advice to try different sets from Setupfield is one of the things you should do next.

bla bla bla,kid dont try to act smart,if you dont know how to change the setting then go sell your "wisdom" somewhere else!

Just kidding,you are very smart and educated and you know a lot about cars and driving

(kids like him are so sensitive,they need all the encouragement they can get)

Quote from vourliotis :

As i see at your online stats
http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=s ... p;racer=TRKAC&abc=264

Your PB with XFG is +18 from WR and your last time that you was online was few days ago.
If this is your personal best, then i suggest that you must practice more and try to understand more about cars behavior.
Arent all the cars the same and you cant drive them with the same style.

there is no point in playing this game online,but i do take a spin offline sometimes

p.s. lol so many angry kids here

peace

Last edited by TRKAC, Mon 2 Apr 2012, 15:58.

Quote from Sobis :

Oh my god... Maybe I'll be silent this time.

That,s what your mother said -)

Quote from MAGGOT :

Well, they shouldn't behave the same way. the XF is front wheel drive, the XR is rear wheel drive. The two powertrain layouts produce vastly different driving dynamics.

As far as unresponsiveness, I'm not sure; I don't experience the same thing. As for spinning, that's mostly a matter of throttle control. I find the XRs to handle very nicely and have plenty of grip.

So one is good to drive and other sucks? if that is what they were going for then it works great.
no,really the dead zone(steering) on this car is bad and like I said it spins out of control on low speed