Quote from Racon :

If there's not going to be many places to brake, let's make 'em count

How about a corner that goes on forever, tightening as it goes, last thing before the sprint to the line?

Quote from sinanju :

Section of track with 2 braking zones and 2 where you may be able to lift.



If turns too tight to get round without braking, they could be widened or angle opened.

Take away Autocross start and lines round it, and you use 384 objects, which cover an area approx. 480m x 230m.

Guess I will use both. with 50-50 style



EDIT: Ahh, yes! This will actually be great idea I think, hehe!

EDIT2: @sinanjyu, yes that is wayyyy too narrow track. But I will use left side walls, all the way to half section I will make outer section with my hand

Last edited by UnknownMaster21, Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:43.

Nah


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Here is the Kink II XRT and Kink II XRR

Two versions: XRT variant contains 4 braking points, XRR contains 4 or 5, depending car settings and good driving skils.

XRT version is suitable for soft tyres with 230 - 270 km/h top speed

XRR version is suitable for racing tyres with 280 - 320 km/h top speed

Any fast formula cars are not recommended due fragile suspension.

Proper pitlane and start/finish lane.

XRT version contains Dropout, where car is expected to have some airtime. Suitable to make suspension to last, although you can neglect the suspension damage simply lifting off little the throttle.

XRR version is longer and contains few more high speed turns.


EDIT: Added replays. Not as demonstration of perfect driving ( because it's pporly driven ), but rather what to expect.


EDIT2: Added replay and setup for Toyate Suproza T. Quite tricky and probably not enough well developed, but should keep up the basics. Can do 3-4 laps before tires are gone ( unless you are able to drive like real gentleman in order to keep tires up in good condition )

And yes, car can go over 400km/h, but nonetheless...

EDIT3: Added replay and setup for Devil Z ( XRT variant ). Tried actually to make an epic start/finish laptime but 2nd last corner went a bit too far and I ended into pitlane. A good demonstration about what could go wrong.

And I like it. You win plenty of time if you dare to go for it, but will lose plenty of time if slipping wrong side of the racing track, ( especially true if there is pitspeed limit implemented, that is. )


EDIT4: Added Kink II XRR setups for:

FXO GTR | Slowest car, easiest to drive
XR GTR | Fastest car ( if able to keep turbo spooling up all the time ), but turbo pressure must be kept high
FZ50 GTR | Very fast car generally, even faster than XR GTR, if cornering is taken smoothly.


All 3 cars were between 1 second gap at Start/Finish lap ( 1-lap time attack )


Expect more setups to come. I try to fulfill more optimal setups to enhance GTR cars. ( MGR, LX10, LS V12 to come... and more! )

EDIT5: Added setups for 5 different vehicles ( XRR variant )

LX10 GTR | Interesting car, slightly faster than FZ50 GTR, capable to do over 300km/h, but quite tricky to sustain tires
MRG V8 GTR | Top Speed even slower than FXO GTR. However, car excels on tire management!

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Now a step faster from GTR:

LSV 12 GTR | Top Speed over 310km/h but what is even more impressive is how car is able to make high speed corners. Absolute beast to go!

Dorito-GTO | This 5-speed manual gearbox vehicle is also capable to go easily over 310km/h but tires and clutch may be an issue in long run. Good brakes but demanding car in order to go smoothly.

Torino Antidoto | This exotic car is even faster than other two, but simply loses on cornering due characteristics. Very hard on tires and probably very bad fuel comsumption. Steering management is at least on same level as Dorito-GTO. In other words: You must excel some aspects to maintain this thing.

So yeah, here is 5 more cars to tackle with. Probably will give some more. Perhaps XRT variant's turn next time, who knows. Have fun!



EDIT 6: Ok, One more for today!

LX8 GTR | The mythical vehicle from 0.5F2 version. Top Speed goes over 290km/h. Insane acceleration and torque! Shift gears somewhere at 10 000rpm to maintain constant good acceleration. Keeps up with other GTR cars till 2nd checkpoint, where bunch of kinks and hard corners eats it's laptime several seconds. However, if able to keep up with pack via slipstream, this vehicle will be the winner due insane acceleration!

They said it was too hard to drive...

It is hard to drive... but too hard? Go and stay home!

EDIT 7: BZ30 Roadster GTR setup added. While this car is no match against top tier GTR's, quick acceleration, good tire management and agility are the weapons in this car's journey.
Beware, while car has variety of options, it can spin rather easily
While being agile, it has not greatest handling
Can barely hit 290km/h
EDIT 8: Acosta Starlin ( XRT Variant ) setup added.
Edit9: Added Kink II XRR setup for DORITOSUKE. This car can only challenge GTR cars with full flat out courses, as this car simply has not enough power and steering requires rather drifting skills than full apex grip, due the car's nature. Similar rule like LX8 GTR: If you can keep up with the pack, there is slight chance to make it happen.
Edit10: Added Kink II XRR setup for P4 ATN 2017. Competitor for LSV 12 GTR. Watch out front right tire, you may want to lift off a little on left hand turns for trade-off to managing tires.
EDIT11: Added XR V8SC Kink II XRR setup. Good competitor for DORITOSUKE with similar rules. A lot of torque but very hungry for smelting tires. Definitely not good vehicle for beginners... but perhaps YOU can make it very fast?

EDIT12: Panther 911 Turbo setup added due popularity.

This vehicle excels beautifully on sharp turns. And with top speed being over 300km/h, this 7-speed flashy 4WD eats regular GTR cars anyway and anyhow. Excellent handling and easy to brake. Also aids with ABS/TC

It's weakness definitely is tyre management by unpredict movements. While having excellent handling, Panther is unpredictable on small bumps and high speed corners. Pay attention in these circumstances.

EDIT13: RZBDK
This 3 litre, 658 bhp, huge steering angle drift car is now forced to go straight and fast. This happy-go-lucky rear wheel monster isn't however that fast as expected:

PROS

Good amount of torque and engine sounds and seems to be on top notch
Can easily go "god what knows how fast" ( Under 340km/h anyway )
As a drift car with flat tires, car seems to handle beautifully on sharp turns, while on slide.
Can sustain some damage!

CONS

Tires must be under constant management
Once tail happy, remains like so
Isn't meant for gripping and having perfect balance on corners, which are the most optimal, is surprisingly hard.
Fuel comsumption


EDIT14: McLarry_D8M

I just add replay. Let that speak enough what you may face off. Setup also included, but definitely far from optimal.

WARNING: Watch replay, please.

Pros:
INSANE Torque and Acceleration
Over 360km/h Top Speed

Cons:
Rest of things.

( I just want to highlight that I am not mocking/insulting this awesome vehicle in anyhow. I believe it is as how it should be. It is just what to expect when tackling on this high speed stuff.


Edit15: Added Kink II XRT setup for Alexis GR-2

Easy to handle. This stylish 90's looking vehicle will handle great at corners and braking isn't that bad at all, thanks to ABS.

Pros:
Top speed over 272km/h
Excellent maneuverability. Forgives a lot
Good suspension

Cons:
In order to steer, you must lift throttle a bit once for while. This is especially true when not in exact optimal cornering.
Rather slow on last two corners.

Last edited by UnknownMaster21, Fri, 8 Apr 2022 05:08. Reason : Added now RZBDK setting

Yay! Finland won! ( Finally! ) Huge streak there ended too.

Alright... time to attack BL2 / BX40


EDIT: 2nd attempt... I got this... I fell once... no mercy on the curbs!


Definitely can do much better than that. Just edited setup and already 1 second faster... but more vulnerable on cornering.

Absolutely don't touch curbs.

( We are talking BX400 / BX2 combo )


EDIT: T1 and T2 ( After the straight ), you don't need to hit perfectly on apex. In fact, it is better if you take slightly a bit outside. While on next turns, the S-turn, you must hit the apex, otherwise you end outside of slippery curb or you need to lift throttle heavily. T5 is probably hardest one, due bumpy nature. Can cut inside the curb, but seems like it is wheel of fortune whether you stay on or not. Last turn is very easy and most enjoyable one. This is due it's banked on inside. Also no fear to hit inside curb, seems to go just in limits and fine, as long as you don't physically touch it with front wheel.

Last edited by UnknownMaster21, Sat, 26 Mar 2022 07:16.

Alright then. Tell me how this ends.

It's not reality... it's fantasy.

Quote from Eclipsed :

He's already in the list besides names like Hitler,Stalin and other mass murderers.

This

Oh man...

If Ukraine falls... we are next on the list. Just because history is not what people inside Kreml wanted... thus creating propaganda traps, ultimately leading into conflict.

Not the problem with Russian people, but if this kind of shit falls and somehow works into those people, same thing happens... same stuff, same attributes, same lies and actions... different country and much smaller one.

I strongly believe not many will buy it, because we have kept our history very open. But if that loses meaning... nothing matters.

The issue is that Finland is seen as nazism and nazi actions during Winter War between Finland and USSR back then...

...and also because we had technical alliance between us and Nazis. We had no other choice in terms of keeping our independency. We could resist pretty far, but defeat was inevitable without any negotiations.

Ugh...

So, the title really should be: What is happening in Kreml?



This is just madness... I do not need really repeat my words, but I shall this one more time: Who is really pulling the strings?

Propaganda bait.

I dont believe it. It decreases the threat sure but have to be stupid to think it could never happen.

NATO was never real good option for geopolitical reasons...

...but seems like nothing can be seen as neutral anymore.

Once fear is set... there's no way out. Unless serious breach is made for brand new negotiations. However, due the amount of propaganda happening now... out of question.

Two options for Russia... give up for the conflict and face it. Find solution for peace once and for all.
Or destroy whole Ukraine and find next target.

Or 3rd one, Nuclear War.


But... as I mentioned before, something doesn't match up.


EDIT: IF Nato was lead any other country than United States, NATO would have be seen less amount of threat and more on actual valid defense alliance. While it is still defence alliance, actions in history and leaders in past... yeah... complicated.

And using excuse that on Russia. Just because Western countries did so, doesn't make your country any better for doing same thing.


But after all, there are humans too in my neighborhood land ( Russia ). Must be good people, without doubt. Despite some rised tensions, although understandably. The amount of propaganda is so massive that anything goes. Mix-up with valid reason, information and other technical aspects.



Ironically, People in Europe, USA, China and Russia, as well as Ukraine... everybody is shaking their head... "not this way..."

...yet here we are. And if rumors are what they seem to be heard of...

...Holy shit. Value of basic human decreases minute by minute...Yeah sell your soul to great propaganda...World is crazy.


EDIT: And again, as much as I am against this stupid, meaningless conflict, there are valid reasons shown from their perspective. But again, all of them falls on excuse level, leaving the real reason behind, well hidden.

Could be NATO, could be hidden corruption inside Russia or even Ukraine... infiltrates, money, power, information... agents, competition... anything goes... It could even be 3rd party reason... reason could only be just personal... who really knows?

After all the reasons and thoughts from every perspective, by all the cards shown what are currently be shown... who and what to believe? It's really getting off the scale.

And yet, every stone was not flipped over. Kreml claimed they had no other choice. That's absolute bullshit. Regardless of valid reasons or not.


Who is pulling the strings?

Last edited by UnknownMaster21, Wed, 23 Mar 2022 06:50.

Yeah, it's a shame.

It has now been reached out of hands... out of control. Let's see how things will settle now.

EDIT: I mean this propaganda situation

Last edited by UnknownMaster21, Fri, 18 Mar 2022 03:38.

Quote from bishtop :

The thing is we cannot let the threat of WW3 to allow such acts to happen. You must think further down the line, whats next ? Nato countries which then we're threatened with Nuclear Weapons ? , whether it escalates or not, we need more of a backbone

That's why I see our country should stay as neutral. But then again...conflict should not then start?

Therefore nothing is completely neutral...



This nazi discussion... I am aware and most likely there are nazis in Ukraine... but I am pretty sure Russia could have taken them out. Perhaps with force... perhaps one of the reasons...

...but this massively? whole country can't be full of nazis. There must be something more than that. Therefore removing nazis also falls into excuse category as well.

I see Russia as pretty weak as a whole. That doesn't include citizens ( excluding some, as what I have seen and read... there is 0% of honor, immoral actions ).

...but at same time, I feel Russia is not weak at all. Struggling it will though. That's another one which does not match up at all. This is probably yet another shady business, similar to western countries.


So.. who is really pulling some strings? Something is seriously f*cked up... and in somepoint, it will be an ultimate, last words to shout out with oncoming nuclear winter.

With all respect, Ukraine is far from perfect country, and they as we know that. In some cases, pretty powerless. That is not much different to Finland... in here, there is also something stupid going on, with stupid NATO discussion...

...but attacking into one country was never a solution... absolute maniac move! Absolutely there is something else than we see, I am now positive of it... but what?

If people just say things what we currently see from both sides, from both perspectives... while it may be partially true, the whole truth is still hidden...And this bullshit propaganda ain't helping for anyone. Not gonna buy it.


EDIT: if Kreml wants Soviet Union back... or if Putin wants to be into history books as hero... or something else, that failed. Perhaps not so thought in Russia and that is understandable... but making this conflict under the start of globalism, which whole world definitely is not yet ready, it surely starts weakening whole country a lot. Even if whole Ukraine is lost and destroyed, Russia will be somewhat vulnerable on certain cases... that causes fear and even more conflicts arises... which leads whole total world destruction... whoever fears most, attacks first ( if not fleeing, or compromise if found )

If whole earth is shattered into pieces... so be it.



Buuut.... there is still a lot to save!

EDIT: Same thing would happen other way around... Trump was good example.

Last edited by UnknownMaster21, Sun, 13 Mar 2022 14:29.

Yeah. The reason why you believe Russian leader is it was many, many many many years to build up.

Always be alerted if someone else from outside is saying things like they see it. It is up to you, whether you care, believe or take any actions or not.

There is no 100% trust. Just like there is no 100% free speech.

However, having no 100% trust doesn't mean it isn't enough trustful. It is what it is in humanity.

Like I have said, there is something deeper in this "conflict" what we don't currently see, if ever. I wouldn't trust in any propaganda now. According how this is reacted, seen and thought in everywhere, something doesn't match up at all.

There was a set-up for huge mistake...Or people were fooled out big time... Only because things were not set up correctly in first place... or in 2nd either.

Something doesn't match up. Whatever the case, war should be stopped now.


EDIT: There is chance getting slightly higher, little by little, that this conflict will spread out globally. Fear is cast... And in some point, there is no turning point anymore.

Last edited by UnknownMaster21, Sun, 13 Mar 2022 09:41.

Hmmmm....

World War III chance has been increased ( although very, very slightly, but increased anyway )

Quote from Aleksandr_124rus :

What do you mean?
All human rights are a social construct, they have no material value, its do not fly somewhere in the air that they could point a finger at them. In this sense they are all a myth. But when people talk about human rights, like the the right to freedom of speech, they talk about principles or beliefs about the treaty to which we must adhere. There is nothing absolute. Based on this, there is no absolute freedom of speech.
But everything I have described above is trivial judgments. You probably meant something else. Then explain your position.

No need to. Your comment explains it well. It is how my perspective and my "belief" sees this as whole.

Yea yea yea. I understood. I was thinking out of the box. The motives, real or fake and actual reasons and so on...

Russia could easily pick those up and make those as no longer exist. According bombards, whole country is then as one...


...or is there even something more deeper? wars, conflicts, and situations always contain hidden keypoints, only to be seen much much later, if at all .

That's why there always occurs something... odd

Yeah that was yet another one of mistake what Ukraine had made... and western propagand hiding it away.




But how big this faction is? And even so, it falls on yet another actual excuse. Why no nazis are shown to West?

And even so, in 5 years plus, whats the situation is now then?

Unfortunately, free speech is complete myth. It was never really allowed, and never will be.