Just give him the S2 licence tag or rename-replace his demo account with his S2 account name ffs


Personaly Im S2 player but i dont give a s... about the avatar , but some ppl do and i - we have to respect them (especialy those old School guys ;p )

Quote from BIzO :

Hello,
therefore its make more than 5 months which I am registered on lfs.net but it is the first time that I connect myself here. Thus my idea is “to make revive S1”, i.e. that one can create of the waiters, the rejoindres, to play in network, or to free the S1 contents. Me I have S2 and S1 , I play time as many on patch S2X than patch S1H, and I find damage that one cannot been able to play in network in S1. Then me my idea, it is to be able to join S1 waiters on the patch S1H which in the same way on S2, if you see what I want to say…

Thank you to answer!

I are native spiker !

Quote from BlueFlame :

Well, trying to thrash an Lx4 to death, seemed to be fatal, for my Joystick
so me and my father have been looking at wheels, i just wanted to know, what all you guys have for wheels, and what ones are considered to be the best, of course, im looking for cheapness ,but i don't want something, that will end up being the least best wheel to have, in a few months time

Just dont listen them go buy a g25 , i know that it isnt cheap but believe me this thing its 90% close to the real thing

G25 vs DFP Calibration Test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFCGQ2BzrVg

G25 vs DFP Calibration Test num 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_LBnei_weU

Centering spring "simulation its actually the motors power there is no spring"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNc6BGTTflY

G25 vs DFP Noise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Cq1Xk1DbY


One picture is more than 1000 words right?

Dont rush keep some money be petient and buy g25 , this is my advice ^^

Hope you listen me

You can always do this through Driver settings of your video card ^^

Hope i helped =)

15 years old max !

Global bannorz

Quote from sinkoman :

I've been having a bit of trouble recovering from having two tires slip into the grass. I see people do it just fine, but for me, it seems like tire + grass = spin.

What I try to do is just snap the throttle shut, and slowly try to steer back onto the track (assuming the track is clear), with copious amounts of countersteer to combat spinnage.

I'm wondering, how do you guys do it?

This is where drifting skills makes you a better race driver =) dont throttle shut cause this make the weight tranfer to the front and the rear lose more of his traction (=90% spin) most of the job is done by the steering wheel , countersteer as much is need it to have the car goin straight-sliding (with the 2 wheels on the grass or 4 on the grass, its the same exacly feeling you get when drifting a corner allthough you dont have the same FFb power cause you dont have the same grip on the grass) adjust your throttle if need it and start recover you countersteer slowly, this will bring you back at the track without loosing most of your speed and not in the middle on the track or the other end ;p

Mistakes (mistakes when racing in drifting this is the key) :

1: If you countersteer more than you have you will end up sliding the opposite direction
2: if you throttle shut you loosing you rear grip
3: braking = same like 2 but worse
4: full throttle and clutch mensioned before is wrong cause clutching = more angle to your slide (Clutch is an initial drift technique or a + angle technique while you are on the slide)

For an ex drifter or a Racer who drifts too this isnt a problem =)


ps: Dont listen to the ppl that saying drifting sucks. Drifting teach you how to control the car in situations likes this when you pass some of your grip level and makes you a better racer ^^ Mistakes will always happen and you have to correct em fast

ps2: left foot brake may help you too but this is a high lvl technique that make use of losing the rear grip to change you sliding direction a bit or to start a slide ,take a look at "scandinavian flick"

Last edited by ZzeCoOl, Mon 9 Jul 2007, 13:29.

Quote from danowat :

All we need now is for him to somehow ban drifting and those bloody stupid cruise servers...........

Whats your problem ppl with drifting? In a simulation game you can drive the way you want.

Im drifting because i like it more ,that doesnt meen Racing sucks grow up plz

I found my self so many times spectating Conedodgers like it was a real race

If you cant drive in a spesific way its your problem, cheers =)

If you really want a nice drift server with good rules (pit No pit speeding, no wrong way, no wreck , Only English) Then FA*public drfit is for you FA is writen in japanese

Its where Team-orange and Saiko-D members drifting and they are not 15 years old =)


ps : as someone said this is common when admins are 15 years old

Quote from kamkorPL :

And ofcourse video was stupid and funny. The contrast beetwen driving and the posts showed later was HUGE. I'm sure Ian has a lot of talent and could easily grab a win in UK EDC or japanese D1GP in the powerfull Cossie he drove.

I'm also really glad that Ian didn't took the video in agressive way.

edit:


Good point.

ROLFMAO

Now image the same driving along with "The Famous Cossie 520 hp"

lmafao :P


ps: a drifter knows how to control and stop the right time the car from sliding ,"we" can teach racers how to do it ,cause if they dont know like Ian here .....

better be a ballet dancer than Grass Cutting Machine

someone got powned so hard :/


IAN the skillOr driver !!

Quote from Tomi :

no the corner is taken slower. It allow them a better speed in the following fast section, that's all. Slow in, Fast out. Even in track racing, it is often faster to take a corner slightly slower if it allow for a better exit. It also depends of the power curve and shifting ratios.

I also forgot to add that in the tightest hairpins, rally drivers grab the handbrake because of the steering ratio. They just can't afford tp turn the wheel to opposite lock.

You realy dont know what you talking about for the red part

and handbrake is a drifting technique so you agree with me here that drifting is a racing technique.

Thank you that you agree with me with not even know that you do

Quote from JJ72 :

Well if you are drifting pass a corner with 160kph....a grip racer can do 200 at the same turn.

true But this doesnt need higher skill (and we are speaking for open corners)

Quote from mixer13134 :

Naah, cruise servers are boring. I like to race but I'm not fast, I like to drift, but I'm not good. So I still do them both.:P

You own Dont care what others saying :P

Quote from VTiRoj :

Theres only one place for people like you... Cruise servers



*points*

Evolution? Powesliding is similar to the "power over" style of drifting yes, but they are not related.

This isnt stupid friend we are messing with "techniques" and "dynamic force efects" try to find the difference


Hint : Drifting is a set of techniques to overboost the efect of powersliding

Who sounds idiot now?

Quote from Tomi :

Most of the time, they don't do it because it is the fastest way to take the corner, they mostly do it to have the car oriented toward the exit of the corner earlier and being able to floor it sooner.

Isnt this faster? Sry but dont play the fool


What a moron

Last edited by ZzeCoOl, Thu 7 Jun 2007, 10:55.

Quote from theirishnoob :

karts dont count cause only 7-12 year olds drive them Also this is a Game so Drifting dont really benefit you but when racing on aston gp with fox i tend to "drift " quiet a bit when i use throttle but in the wise words of Jackie steward

" never use the throttle when turning a rear wheel drive car , only put your foot on if your gonna keep it on "

which is what i ( and most racers ) should live by

Like the Great Ari Vatenen did in pikes pike colorado? Or are you saying that racing is only on tarmac?


International A kart isnt for 7-12 years old + kart is the greatest driving school for your lovely racers Nascar - F1 - Daytona - GTR (Grippers)

Last edited by ZzeCoOl, Thu 7 Jun 2007, 10:46.

Quote from axus :

Nah, you're not saying it, even if you are maybe thinking it.

Read more carefully


Take as a point that i like "racing" in your terms the same like drifting

Quote from keithano :

MOST lfs tracks are tarmac, and if you can simply prove to me in any LFS car that drifting is faster than gripping.. or simply get a WR with your drifting or sliding techiques, then I will learn how to drift.

Cmon, not only you're real-life racer, I am also one. The drifting technique you said you used in karting is not so called drifting, it's just power-sliding.

You are right and the evolution of the powersliding is drifting

ps :i never said that if you drift all the track you are faster

Quote from AndroidXP :

We already had very many interesting debates about whether drifting is faster than "gripping" and why "everybody hates drifters" - just one click on the search button away. You might want to read up on them to make yourself look less stupid.

Mentioning rally driving really shows that you have no idea, because the circumstances are vastly different than on a race track. On a loose surface, the reason of going sideways is that the profile of the tyre only really works in the longitudinal direction, by digging through the loose stuff (aided by heavy wheel spin) down to the hard ground. By that, you have vastly more longitudinal than lateral grip, so you actually go sideways to make the forward pull of the tyres drag you through the corner. This technique is obviously pointless on clean surfaces, like you find 99% on a race track. The only other reasons to not "grip" on tarmac is to navigate extremely tight hairpins where the wheelbase of the car already poses a problem, or where the benefit of keeping the revs and boost up overcome the slight loss in grip. And at last, in case of street cars (or badly tuned race cars) to overcome the built in understeering tendency, which is the reason for the often quoted advantage of drifting on mountain tracks.

Even if you chose to ignore the obvious and firmly believe that drifting is faster on the track (slight(!) four wheel drifting is indeed faster in certain circumstances, but not the show drifting you think of), over the length of a race, even if it is just one of the ridiculous 5 lappers, drifting is not faster because your tyres will be overheated after one lap.

We are saying exacly the same thing

Quote from RedQuad :

Don't call F1 cars limited. Call drift setups limited.

software controled car are limited there are many years before that f1 was real f1

Quote from tristancliffe :

Racers don't keep moaning about drifters. Drifters moan because they feel threatened by their 'skills', and post nonsense like this thread.

Was this thread started by a drifter or a racer? I rest my case.

Im Both even in game as in my real life a racer and now a drifter

Im not saying that one is better than the other im just saying that sliding is a car efect where you take advandage in drifting races

Quote from mixer13134 :

I don't understand the thing, why racers hate drifters. Because they think that many of the drifters are 13 yr old kids who just had watched FnF? I think drifting is equal to racing. Some people want to race, some want to drift.
LFS has many servers. Servers for racing, and for drifting. That means, drifters won't disturb racers. But why do always racers keep whining about drifting?

The answer is simply because of those stupid 13 years old kids and FnF


And something more why after the end of a wrc rally the winner most of the times making donats? ot the 8 figure?

Quote from VTiRoj :

ZzeCoOl, stop. Theres no point defending drifting in a forum (mostly) full of racing fans who are tired of drifters asking for FnF mods or window banners on all cars.

Hell, its people like you who make drifters seem like idiots

Im not asking for a mod or fancy windows shit im just speaking about the sliding efect


Point me where exacly do i sound as an idiot?

Quote from andybarsblade :

your confusing drifting with oversteering. cant you tell the difference?

Yes drifting is to oversteer and keep your car this way as long as you thing you have to even to pass a corner like that for fun because you like it or even better because some times its the faster way to take the corner


Plus that oversteering is a dynamic force efect and not a technique drifting is a technique that have to do with counterattack the oversteering :P

There is also a technique that counterattacks understeering by hitting the wheel many times to eliminate the understeer efect ( basicly you are trying to oversteer To balance the understeer efect )


So im not confused

Last edited by ZzeCoOl, Thu 7 Jun 2007, 10:08.