Quote from frokki :

Exactly. If you ever bring back LX8, please make it LX8 instead of another dull car.

Agreed

Quote from thisnameistaken :

The LX8 wouldn't be anything like the RAC - the engine is in a completely different place.

But... it's already dead easy to run out of grip on the LX6 when trying to accelerate out of corners, and that's why most people are scared of it, so maybe the LX8 would just be frustrating rather than fun. Maybe.

I didn't mean engine, I meant traction. Should have explained better

570bhp and slicks will make it harder than any other car in any other sim. That much power is just pure overkill. Plus the slicks will vaporise very quickly in LFS, just a tiny slip will escalate into long slide afte which your tires are more red than... anyway.

Personally I've done some experimenting with the LX6 and tweaks. It gets crazy quite quickly if you put too much power. It can handle about 350bhp, depending what kind of torque curves it makes but over that it isn't imho that much fun anymore. And that's with road tires. Maybe the LX8 could come with slightly more grippy tires than the road supers but putting slicks will just highlight the tire heating issue into maximum. Especially if you add any weight (bigger engine).

It was and is sad to see that most probably the LX8 is and will stay just a dream...

Quote from Hyperactive :

It was and is sad to see that most probably the LX8 is and will stay just a dream...

I am same opinion with you...

But maybe it will come on the future but real car

I was a very strong yes on this one, although I'm not sure whether or not I'm right - yes to a high-powered (excessive is a good word ) LX, but is the V8 the way to go? Would we rather have something like a Caterham R500, as opposed to a Westfield SEight? The type of car isn't really made for a big, heavy, lazy engine like a V8. Yes, you could go for a race-spec V8 in the Caparo T1 vein, but if we do that we're looking slicks and wings just to keep it under control at pitlane speeds, never mind trying to race it.

*considers*

I reckon a high-strung four-pot - or maybe a straight-six - is going to be much better for it, not least so it sounds spectacular and maintains the urgent, hard-pushing nature of the other two LX cars. I'm thinking high revs, high noise, and high spirits. Yes, Caterham and Ariel have just put out V8s (the same unit for both manufacturers) - but that's two bike engines knocked together, it's a little supercharged 2400cc motor that revs stratospherically, for God's sake, and if we do that we are going to be seriously pushing the envelope. More power (outright as well as per tonne) than the Formula V8?

I don't think we can really get a Levante / Atom 500-a-like in LFS, it's just not terribly reasonable. But three hundred-odd horsepower, pushing road tyres about as far as we can without having to feather the throttle everywhere, why not? Yeah, it's probably going to be hard to drive, but so it bloody should be

Like skstibi, I've been messing around with Tweak, but I made the LX6 up to Caterham R500 specification - 263bhp, 506kg, similar rev range, and the same old tyres - and it feels like it was meant to be like that. It's not snappy, it's not vicious, but it's sideways when you want it to be and evilly quick. Great fun. And the R500 would, by my reckoning, have more grip than the LX6 does anyway - so I think it's a manageable upgrade for LFS.

But hey, if I get overwhelmed by chants of "V8, V8, V8" then I'll sit down and roll with it. Just give us the excessive kit cars, that exist in reality, to play with in LFS

Talk to me

Sam

bring back the lx8 i never drove it so want to see how good it is

Nobody ever drove it - it wasn't released.

Well, maybe the beta testers got to try it, but if they couldn't drive it you can bet your ass we couldn't.

Quote from Bean0 :

It would never get used...much like the LX6 (and LX4, and RAC, and FZ50).

If we get a V8 it should be muscle car-esque I reckon.

Muscle car, mmm.

With aero and slicks: ok

I would love LX8 GTR. I'm a bit bored to our big GTR's, and LX8 GTR would be a competititor for FXR, XRR and FZR. They weight just over 1000 kg's, LX8 GTR would weight something like 600-700 kg's. I think it should have some wings to generate a bit of downforce. Just balance the power/weight-ratio to match our current big GTR's. It would bring some competition to GTR-class. Without slicks and wings it's just a waste of tires..

With the same power/weight ratio, I don't think an LX8 GTR would ever keep up with the current GTR cars. It'd be bloody quick off the mark, but its smaller tyres and less aerodynamic shape would make it slower in the corners and slower on the straights too, so it would need a greater power to weight ratio - giving it a bigger kick out of the corners, and helping to make up for the aerodynamic defecit at higher speeds. Unless, of course, we go all single-seater with the downforce and really stick it to the track

It's a bit out of the LX style, though, isn't it? Wings and slicks? Isn't it supposed to be a fun, challenging waste of tyres? Might as well just cut the roof off an FZR otherwise...

Sam

Quote from Dark Elite :

With the same power/weight ratio, I don't think an LX8 GTR would ever keep up with the current GTR cars. It'd be bloody quick off the mark, but its smaller tyres and less aerodynamic shape would make it slower in the corners and slower on the straights too, so it would need a greater power to weight ratio - giving it a bigger kick out of the corners, and helping to make up for the aerodynamic defecit at higher speeds. Unless, of course, we go all single-seater with the downforce and really stick it to the track

It's a bit out of the LX style, though, isn't it? Wings and slicks? Isn't it supposed to be a fun, challenging waste of tyres? Might as well just cut the roof off an FZR otherwise...

Sam

Well it may keep up with the GTR with the same Hp/weight ratio, only if it had slicks. This car would be for corners, not for straights, and with 500 kilos less (600kg) than the others GTR, it would be really reall nice to drive
Especially with a heavier engine in the front, it would make the weight distribution closer to 50/50, with then an extreme cornering power. The LX series kick out at the exits because of the too high rear weight.

I still think something like this could even be better than the LX8 idea....

I was just messing around with different LX combos today and I found a fun one.
If the car weighed about 460kg (LX4 weighs 467) empty and made 350hp with slicks then it would be perfect. Keeps up with GTR's no matter where they go, the LX would just accelerate far better.
Problems solved. It is harder to drive than the LX6 but it is supposed to be. Where is the fun in something easy to drive?

R500 is the way forward, see Post #80 for why

Though sometimes I wonder why I bother putting thought into posts when everyone else just reposts what other people have said.. :o

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Well it may keep up with the GTR with the same Hp/weight ratio, only if it had slicks.

I'm not at all convinced, because remember those slicks are still going to be a lot smaller than the lawn-rollers on the other GTRs. It'd be interesting to see if the lower weight could make up for this in the corners, though. But as for the straights, you're just going to get killed - remember the GTRs only have 445bhp/ton, and the LX4 with 205bhp would make that much power per ton. I'd like to see that keep up with an FZR

A 350bhp 460kg LX4 is making some 760bhp/ton, which is.. Quite a bit more than the current GTRs!

Sam

my opinion on the matter is that something similar to an lx8 would be awesome.
currently my favorite car to mod with slickmod and lfstune is the lx4.
i usually always end up giving it a small v8 with about 320-370 hp and slicks.
its a blast to drive.

i think that if the devs were to release another lx car it should be in line with the UFR.
big power, light weight, slicks (wide slicks at that) and no downforce.
the reason i say no downforce is that i think it would make the car more easy to drive and the whole point IMO would be to have something that was incredibly fast and very rewarding once you got the hang of it.
not something that you could hop in and master in a few hours...
my two cents

+1 for LX8, Caterham R500.
Can be even the same, with slick's or semi-slicks

Bring back the LX8!

Yes!

We don't need it seriously.

^ but it wuold be fun!

Quote from Tomba(FIN) :

We don't need it seriously.

You're right, we need it funnily

345 bhp, super light car. This is a must

erm.... bump ?

6 years passed since 2008... and no LX8

Yes, no LX8. The devs didn't say they were going to include it.

And there's no need for bumping more threads about it, there's already one with a recent discussion, which I merged with another one you'd bumped.