Quote from zeugnimod :

But passing is impossible. :S

Well, I just expect nothing and be all the happier if it actually turns out to be a decent race.

Shumacher proved that wrong in 2006.

from last to 5th overtaking most of the people in between, in a bone dry race.

Quote from TexasLTU :

With current front wings... Passing is like snow in June.

With current front wings, i say safety cars aplenty.

Dry or wet, I'm willing to bet it's going to be an interesting race.

I guess those who have the damned KERS will use it, might prove useful for drafting in the tunnel (but beware that bump when leaving it, Kimi) and gaining some time on the Casino uphill, even if it has a negative impact on balance. Never thought I'd say that but on this race KERS should pepper (sorry Yann ) things a bit this time.

I might be talking rubbish though. But the qualify will be awesome!

After watching the Spaniard GP... I want it to be Turkey now... I almost fall asleep :/

Quote from de Souza :

Dry or wet, I'm willing to bet it's going to be an interesting race.

I guess those who have the damned KERS will use it, might prove useful for drafting in the tunnel (but beware that bump when leaving it, Kimi) and gaining some time on the Casino uphill, even if it has a negative impact on balance. Never thought I'd say that but on this race KERS should pepper (sorry Yann ) things a bit this time.

I might be talking rubbish though. But the qualify will be awesome!

I'm pretty sure KERS would be a liability. Monaco is a low-speed track where mechanical grip rules above all. You're right in saying it could be used through the tunnel, but one needs to be able to get alongside first, and that will be hard with the high-speed curve on a narrow track.

If a driver is able to draft and get alongside on the pit straight, they could muscle their way through T1 and make the move stick. Other than that, it's hard to think of how else drivers could pass.

dont forget the tire rule

this race could be sick ! just needs some rain at some random point just to shake up the order and make those brawns go off the podium for one.

The advantage of kers really comes in race pace. The extra power comes at no cost to tyre wear, whereas for, the brawns for example, to see the same improvement in laptime of the mclarens, they would have to push harder through the corners. So imo it's still relevent.

They'll wear the tyres more with 80 extra horsepower, and lugging the extra weight (or rather the higher CoG and unfavourable weight distribution) will also slow them in the corners and increase tyre wear. Couple that with one of the KERS drivers being as hard on rear tyres as G. Villeneuve and you have a recipe for not being on the podium... imo

As passing is almost impossible (unless you're a Schumacher, but not the younger brother) then KERS isn't really needed to gain or defend places. I think it's mad they've kept it on for the meeting.

I wouldn't put it past Hamilton to try for some dare-devil overtaking manoeuvres.

Quote from tristancliffe :

They'll wear the tyres more with 80 extra horsepower, and lugging the extra weight (or rather the higher CoG and unfavourable weight distribution) will also slow them in the corners and increase tyre wear. Couple that with one of the KERS drivers being as hard on rear tyres as G. Villeneuve and you have a recipe for not being on the podium... imo

As passing is almost impossible (unless you're a Schumacher, but not the younger brother) then KERS isn't really needed to gain or defend places. I think it's mad they've kept it on for the meeting.

lol @ the tyres thing

Quote from samjh :

I wouldn't put it past Hamilton to try for some dare-devil overtaking manoeuvres.

Or at least try, only for it to end in a crash.

Don't expect much overtaking, you'll only be dissapointed.

KERS could prove handy in qualifying, making time on the straights is a piece of piss so to have that advantage over most of the field could help some drivers a lot.

Quote from keiran :

KERS could prove handy in qualifying, making time on the straights is a piece of piss so to have that advantage over most of the field could help some drivers a lot.

around corners they will lose loads of time though.

Quote from tristancliffe :

They'll wear the tyres more with 80 extra horsepower, and lugging the extra weight (or rather the higher CoG and unfavourable weight distribution) will also slow them in the corners and increase tyre wear. Couple that with one of the KERS drivers being as hard on rear tyres as G. Villeneuve and you have a recipe for not being on the podium... imo

As passing is almost impossible (unless you're a Schumacher, but not the younger brother) then KERS isn't really needed to gain or defend places. I think it's mad they've kept it on for the meeting.

Most of the casrs kept it because their cars are wose off without it because their car is designed for it.

Do you not know how to put 2 quotes into one post?

Anyway I'm looking forward to this, even if its only because of the spectacle rather than the dull racing Monaco usually produces.

Quote from JackDaMaster :

Do you not know how to put 2 quotes into one post?

Quote from Satan :

maybe

Quote from God :

me too

easy

Quote from Mustafur :

Most of the casrs kept it because their cars are wose off without it because their car is designed for it.

I'll reply to this, even though I think you 2 year old daughter must have written it whilst you were in the loo.

'Most'? One two teams have it, and Ferrari have said they'll evaluate it after practice on Thursday.

'Worse off'? Do you get the impression the teams themselves don't actually know if they are worse off?

'Designed for it' You don't say. I thought they fitted something to their cars that weren't designed for it.... But they could still unbolt it and leave the space free - no KERS, no weight, and then they can bolt in more ballast in the nose... Possibly.

You'd wonder why MOST of the teams have removed KERS on the basis that on a traction limited circuit that requires speed in the corners the sums don't add up.

I can see why McLaren would want to continue to use it. If KERS is going to be compulsory next year they will want to accumulate as much data as possible for next years car. With in season testing banned it and a likely budget cap next year it makes sense.

The cars that have KERS will only lose with it removed, like wise the other way around, because the cars are just not made for it to be any way other.

Ever wonder why Kubica just down right fails hardcore this year?

Hes too heavy to have KERS and without it hes slow as well becuase hes driving a car that is designed to have it but he hasn't got it.

It's not a matter of just removing the KERS and adding the ballast to make it better.

Mclaren have already confirmed they will be using it for Monaco, which imo this is the only track that could possibly be better without.

I do hope it's not compulsory next year. What F1 doesn't need it expensive, pointless 'green gimmicks' that don't do anything.

Kubica is not slower due to lack of KERS. He's slow because the car is rubbish, and would be even slower with KERS fitted.

I also think it's going to be a spec unit too rendering the whole 'KERS development' thing useless

Is it just my PC that has taken a dump, or has the audio on the web stream stopped?

Quote from P5YcHoM4N :

Is it just my PC that has taken a dump, or has the audio on the web stream stopped?

No audio on the normal or high quality streams for me either.

edit: And now back.

Dammit, some stupid chump has tripped over the cable >.<

Yay, it came back. I home the audio is there in Replay so I can catch up on what happened D:

yay ! the kers cars are performing well... =)

looking foward for the quali