The GT500Kr can actually corner


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i doubt that very much, it will storm towards the corner, think it can corner then throw itself sideways and squeel until it has no rear tyres left then spit you into a ditch

I like the advert but I am going to say a bad thing Am I the only person who doesn't like the look of the Audi R8?

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I like the advert but I am going to say a bad thing Am I the only person who doesn't like the look of the Audi R8?

Yes you are the only one. The R8 is a lovely car.

Quote from Greboth :

I like the advert but I am going to say a bad thing Am I the only person who doesn't like the look of the Audi R8?

Quote from Greboth :

I like the advert but I am going to say a bad thing Am I the only person who doesn't like the look of the Audi R8?

no i dont like its looks either, to me the front looks like a few different styling clues forced to work together, the side vents look clumsy and the differing colour vertical that is used to make them a feature just makes the car look top heavy, the glasshouse profile if you take that vertical away look like a homage to a 911 as does that of the TT and overall the car looks like a bloated TT ( in fact given how cars grow generation by generation its a good bet the TT in 2025 will be about the R8s size)

it's a cracking car though and no doubt far more capable than a ferrari but ferrari's look more refined (and i will be the first to admit i don't like ferraris ) but to be honest the R8 reminds me of the detomaso pantera in the 70's, a car that was as quick as a ferrari but with no heritage and little delicacy , or the vector where technology and huge power meant it had to be better no matter how it looked.

what will be interesting if to see if the R8 and its succesors will stay at its current pricing level (assuming they continue ) or will they follow ferrari and lambourghini and become relativly more expensive, when i first got interested in cars the 308 and the 911 were fairly evenly matched on price, today the same cant be said for their direct succesors, the f 430 and the er 911

(Must be photoshops)

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two more examples of bloat creaping into car design, i know they have to meet pedestrian safety regs but if you look at either of those next to their 1990 s equivilent, its amazing just how much larger they have become. put a mk1 golf next to the latest one or the new scirocco next to the mk1 or 2 and its like looking at two different classes of car. the one thing that really p*sses me off is that cars like the scirocco are trying to project themselves as sporting cars and trade on the names herritage yet that very sportiness is compramised by their weight and bulk which requires more power and computer trickery to overcome which add even more weight. i was following a new car last week on a dual carriageway (sorry cant remember which model , may have been a mid range seat) and was struck by the fact that it wa almost as high and wide as the mk1 discovery it was passing.

traditionally we europeans have always laughed at the size of US cars yet as they're getting smaller ours are getting larger. in case anyone feels im picking on vw group i'd also say try putting a new clio against the original renault 5 or a new astra against the original mk1. each replacement model has been slightly bigger than the one it replaced, partly due to reg changes and partly due to needs of marketing so the customer can feel they are upgrading every time with more equipment etc. like eating a box of chocolates, each individual chocolate doesnt add much to your waist line but over the years repeated boxes of chocolates result in your wasteline becoming larger and larger. its like discovering that the slim 18 year old you fancied now wears size 18

But Bugatti is still siting on king's chair...

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But the caterham R500 is still siting on king's chair...

Fixed.... Apart from rainy days.

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Fixed.... Apart from rainy days.

I've seen a tuning company that made hardtops for Cat7s, although it was originally to try and break a record at The 'Ring, I do believe you could buy them.

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"a" back at you!

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They should really realize that they're nowhere behind BMW.

Indeed they are nowhere behind BMW. Instead, they are far far in front of them.

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Indeed they are nowhere behind BMW. Instead, they are far far in front of them.

+1

imo audi makes the nicest road cars atm.

I'd have an Audi over a Beamer any day.

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audi fwd/quattro

bmw rwd

Well said, RWD is for real men. Others can take the Audi.

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Well said, RWD is for real men. Others can take the Audi.

So a BMW 116i is more of a man's car than an R8? :doh:

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Lemme tell the full story, son:
http://e.autokrata.pl/a1145/1cf58d1c0021148a4597e493

http://e.autokrata.pl/a479/1212c3820000d8704597e49c

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Are these actually real? Especially the 4th one looks dodgy Photoshop work. And anyhow the last one probably is not related to these... Bentley and Audi are same family after all.

Quote from Furiously-Fast :

So a BMW 116i is more of a man's car than an R8? :doh:

R8 still remains a silly AWD, no matter what you say.

Quote from Töki (HUN) :

R8 still remains a silly AWD, no matter what you say.

So that is your excuse for saying that a crappy 1-series is a better car than a R8 V10?

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So that is your excuse for saying that a crappy 1-series is a better car than a R8 V10?

At least I can buy "crappy 1-series" any time. Now go away, see you on my ignore list. I regret removing you already.

Aww, rwd fanboy is getting a tantrum.

I couldn't care less about drivetrains. If magazines review fwd or 4wd peformance cars well, then I think it's a good car. It's not like rear wheel driven cars are special.

Wow, what next pointless thing will people argue over?

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..... a silly AWD, no matter what you say.

Hmm yeah so silly that the AWD Audis of nearly a decade ago were ultimately effectively banned from touring car championships because the other manufacturers couldn't compete.

RWD is best.. yada yada yada .. give it a rest.. all this macho BS posturing about RWD is getting really really tiresome.

If you want to talk about what drive system is BEST for cars. Go do some empricical tests on grip levels and cornering speeds etc and I believe you'll find that AWD wipes the floor with any 2-wheel drive on any road that actually includes corners. Especially, (not only), on any surface that isn't billiard smooth and 100% grippy. Oh that'll be 99.99999% of the roads on the planet then. That'll pretty much be why it was developed !!

Plus, if you want to talk about BALLs get out of your steel box and go ride a motorcycle. Getting back to cars however, go tell rally drivers they got no BALLs .

Pissing about in a car park or local round about in your RWD laying down darkies makes you a real man.. sure.. until your BALLs drop and actually get hairs on them that is.

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Are these actually real? Especially the 4th one looks dodgy Photoshop work. And anyhow the last one probably is not related to these... Bentley and Audi are same family after all.

Not sure if they are real. Bentley is above such funny adverts fight, his response is brilliant for me

Someone somewhere said that if you take a drive in good awd car, you will never go back to fwd or rwd. In case of public roads, bad wheather etc. I guess.