And in rFactor there is like a very big delay.

Quote from trebor901 :

the only 2 games i can recall that have realistic wheel turn animation is LFS and Project Torque (even though Project Torque is awful)

Even iRacing doesnt have realistic turn angle animation

iracing doesnt have driver steering animation at all rfactor doesnt have any more of a steering delay for me than LFS.

Than it must be something wrong in my settings.

Help!

Quote from Chupacabras84 :

If you mean the turn angle is to small I dont think its unrealistic. just in sport cars are small wheels and small angle to make turning easier, cars are more responsive thx to it.

Even sport cars have a rotation of usually at least two rounds from left to right.

A car would be horrid to drive with less. And yes I think it kinda sucks if they're not gonna make it adjustable at least, it kills the immersion.

Quote from G!NhO :

And in rFactor there is like a very big delay.

Well that's your PC running too slowly then.

Well i have a fast pc so i dont think thats the problem.

Well, the only reason I can think of what produces steering lag is poor performance. But dunno why it does that with you then if it actually is fast.

Also rF doesn't require alien computer for good FPS so if you have a decent PC it should work. Maybe it's GPU drivers then? What FPS are you getting usually?

Quote from BigPeBe :

Even sport cars have a rotation of usually at least two rounds from left to right.

Caterhams (like the LX6) are a less than two rounds lock to lock, with a go-kart like feel in the steering and driving response, but these weigh less than 1500 lbs.

Formula 1 and similar race cars have steering "yokes", not wheels:

http://jeffareid.net/real/spaf1.wmv

Other than a few gaming rigs, and simulations designed to use them, the force feedback in the steering from games isn't realistic, so less sensitive steering is normally used.

Quote from JeffR :

Yes but the physics is clearly different as the cars aren't pulling 5 g's in the turns the way the do in ProStreet.

Make it 50G and we're talking. Remember a video I saw of a car taking a haripin turn in 350kmh

Either way, this game looks promissing, I'll give it a try. If they just manage to make a FUN driving experience I don't care if it's unrealistic. The fun factor of the driving is what counts.

Actually some of my fav games is "Gran turismo""IL2 sturmovik 1946" "Red Orchestra" "insurgency mod" "Team fortress 2" from orange box "MS Flight sim" when I start playing this game i have more time than I have now so i was able to catch up with better players fast and I become decent player.
In this games to become decent player you have to practice a lot.
Now when i start playing LFS I usually end up on the end of the stake, 7 seconds behind all players, (not counting players who end race due to crash) unless some other noobs is on servers so i racing them.
Since I don't have enough time to practice LFS i have rather low chances to win a race or at least race on equal term, till now i didn't even race all tracks in game.
So in this case NFS is much better cuz i can just start the game and play without spending time on learning how to drive, layout of the track and stuff and i don't have feeling that i race myself because all players are far ahead.
So for ppl who doesn't have much time to play NFS is rather a good game and as TVE said fun factor counts cuz if game is fun nothing else matters.
And if its easy to start fun to play its rather a good thing.

Quote from JeffR :

Caterhams (like the LX6) are a less than two rounds lock to lock, with a go-kart like feel in the steering and driving response, but these weigh less than 1500 lbs.

Formula 1 and similar race cars have steering "yokes", not wheels:

http://jeffareid.net/real/spaf1.wmv

Other than a few gaming rigs, and simulations designed to use them, the force feedback in the steering from games isn't realistic, so less sensitive steering is normally used.

Yep I know there might be some exceptions, that's why I typed the word "usually" in there.

I have to admit that I kinda didn't get what you meant with the F1 and unrealistic force feedback talk?

Maybe you meant that NFS isn't probably gonna feature realistic ffb and it's gonna be designed for less steering rotation and for not so realistic gaming rigs?
Tho I still dunno why you mentioned the F1.

Still I would hope that NFS Shift is gonna feature a realistic ffb, adjustable steering lock and wheel rotation because if not it's kinda going to kill the immersion and playability with G25 and similar wheels. After all they have mentioned sim like physics already...

And oh I'm not trying to make your post look false, I'm just a bit confused.

A bit more footage leaked/released, expect lots more hype before its released!!!

Looks a bit like rFactor to me in that video, oh yeah, and the driver sucks BIG TIME.

Since when do porsche's have 90degrees turning? And it looks like ProStreet with some fancy sparks and cockpit view.

Car/Track list revealed, get a new set of Underwear ready!

Cars:
* 2006 Aston Martin DBR9
* 2009 Audi R8 LMS
* 2008 Audi R8
* 2008 Audi RS 4
* 2007 Audi S3
* 2007 Audi TT 3.2 quattro
* 2006 Audi S4
* BMW M3 E36
* BMW M3 E46
* BMW M3 E92
* 2008 BMW 135i Coupé
* 2009 BMW M3 GT2
* 2007 BMW Z4 M Coupé
* 2008 Bugatti Veyron 16.4
* 2006 Dodge Challenger Concept
* 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10
* Falken Tire 2010 Ford Mustang GT
* 2010 Ford Shelby GT500
* 2007 Ford Focus ST
* 2006 Ford GT
* 2006 Need For Speed Shelby Terlingua
* 1996 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
* 2009 Chevrolet Camaro SS
* 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS
* 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
* 2006 Honda Civic Si
* 2000 Honda S2000
* 2006 Koenigsegg CCX
* 2008 Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4
* 2007 Lamborghini Murciélago LP640
* 2007 Lamborghini Reventón
* 2006 Lotus Elise 111R
* 2007 Lotus Exige S
* 2005 Maserati MC12 GT1
* 2008 Mazda MX-5
* 2006 Mazda RX-8
* 1995 Mazda RX-7
* 1994 McLaren F1
* 2007 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 722 Edition
* 2007 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG
* 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer EVOLUTION
* 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer EVOLUTION IX MR-edition
* 2003 Infiniti G35 (V35)
* 1997 Nissan 200SX (S14)
* 2009 Nissan 370Z (Z34)
* 2006 Nissan 350Z (Z33)
* 2009 Nissan GT-R SpecV (R35)
* 2008 Nissan GT-R (R35)
* 2000 Nissan Silvia (S15) spec.R AERO
* 1999 Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34)
* 1972 Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R
* 1992 Nissan 240SX (S13)
* 2006 Pagani Zonda F
* 2010 Pagani Zonda R
* 2008 Porsche 911 GT2
* 2009 Porsche 911 GT3 RSR
* 2006 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
* 2004 Porsche Carrera GT
* 2007 Porsche Cayman S
* 2008 Renault Mégane RS
* 2007 SEAT Leon CUPRA
* 2006 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
* 2007 Lexus LF-A Concept
* 2008 SCION tC
* 1986 Toyota Corolla GTS (A86)
* 2008 Volkswagen Scirocco
* 2006 Volkswagen Golf GTI

Tracks:
1. Alpental
2. Autopolis International Racing Course
3. Ambush Canyon
4. Brands Hatch
5. Dakota
6. Ebisu Circuit
7. Glendale
8. Hazyview
9. Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca
10. London
11. Miytomi
12. Nordschleife
13. Road America
14. Rustle Creek
15. Silverstone
16. Circuit de Spa Francorchamps
17. Tokyo
18. Willow Springs

Source: NFSUnlimited

Quote from Furiously-Fast :

Car/Track list revealed, get a new set of Underwear ready!

* BMW M3 E36
* BMW M3 E46
* BMW M3 E92

Those are the cars Ive been waiting for.

This game is gonna save the NFS name and possibly knock Simbin out the way.

new vid
http://shift.needforspeed.com/us/media

http://www.nfsunlimited.net/media/shift/screenshots/30.jpg
Alot bad things to say about it:
Weird things around rear wing
low res skin
ugly headlights
low res textures

@takumi, that vid, is weird. Yay, 10 degrees steering!??!

edit : lol at those low poly rims.

http://shift.needforspeed.com/ ... 090529015054952?curPage=1

another one

Looking at that, makes me wanna smash my head on my desk.
The steering degree sucks. Pushing people of road, looks crap. Spinning out control looks crap. And you see this guy lose traction at the rear, and he countersteers 5 seconds later, and he just drove on. Makes me wanna pass this game actually.

Quote from Furiously-Fast :

12. Nordschleife

that would be the reason to buy it

im gettin bored with Nordschleife being in every single racing game that comes out these days.

Quote from trebor901 :

im gettin bored with Nordschleife being in every single racing game that comes out these days.

Because it's such a legendary track.

But the only descent race that ever happens on it these days is the Nordschleife 24 hours

But I don't think that's the point... it's because it's such a "legendary" track... so much history and generally a petrolhead haven.