I expect both Vettel and Webber to be very very light anyway.

No weights yet?

boing

Wow. Vettel FTW!!!

Poll added, please vote for what you think, dont vote for the guy on 20th or anything like that, or for what you hope for. I THINK Vettel will win.

Quote from aroX123 :

Poll added, please vote for what you think, dont vote for the guy on 20th or anything like that, or for what you hope for. I THINK Vettel will win.

You fail. I can't find the "no one" option.

Quote from aroX123 :

Poll added, please vote for what you think, dont vote for the guy on 20th or anything like that, or for what you hope for. I THINK Vettel will win.

Sutil of course.

Sutil, who else

Could a mod please change my vote from Webber to Sutil?

I thought about it a bit more and think that Sutil has a really good chance tomorrow.

I can't believe how stupid you lot are.

Sutil isn't going to win! I doubt anyone of you can look at me eye to eye and not admit Nelson Piquet is the greatest racing driver since Fred Flintstone.

Sutil

Sutil - ye of little faith!

im the only one that voted for kimi ? cmon guys ! we all know sutil's awesomeness... but it surely does not beat an ICE CREAM & A COKE !

Webber or Vettel, hopefully will win.

Istanbul - Qualifying Weight (kg)
1 . F. Alonso - Renault R29 - 644.5
2 . S. Vettel - Red Bull Renault RB5 - 649.5
3 . J. Trulli - Toyota TF109 - 652.0
4 . R. Barrichello - Brawn Mercedes BGP 001 - 652.5
5 . F. Massa - Ferrari F60 - 654.0
6 . J. Button - Brawn Mercedes BGP 001 - 655.5
7 . M. Webber - Red Bull Renault RB5 - 656.0
8 . K. Raikkonen - Ferrari F60 - 658.0
9 . N. Rosberg - Williams Toyota FW31 - 660.0
10 . R. Kubica - BMW Sauber F1.09 - 664.0
11 . H. Kovalainen - McLaren Mercedes MP4-24 - 665.0 *
12 . A. Sutil - Force India Mercedes VJM02 - 668.5 *
13 . K. Nakajima - Williams Toyota FW31 - 680.4 *
14 . N. Heidfeld - BMW Sauber F1.09 - 681.5 *
15 . S. Buemi - Toro Rosso Ferrari STR4 - 686.5 *
16 . G. Fisichella - Force India Mercedes VJM02 - 688.5 *
17 . T. Glock - Toyota TF109 - 689.0 *
18 . N. Piquet - Renault R29 - 689.6 *
19 . L. Hamilton - McLaren Mercedes MP4-24 - 696.5 *
20 . S. Bourdais - Toro Rosso Ferrari STR4 - 701.0 *


Weights are out and Vettel is running pretty light, this also means that Vettel has run Lighter then Webber for every single Q3 this season.

Webber is a bit heavier then Both Brawns so the RedBulls generally are Equal.

BTW Bourdais! how can you Run with over 100L of fuel your going to be like 3-5 seconds off the pace!


Also Trulli, everyone thought Glockwould be dominating this season its not to be Trulli is absolutly dominating Glock hardcore.

I doupt Bourdais will run that weight. Remember that for the second half of the field its only declared weights and can change lol.

I want Vettel to win and he has a really good chance if he doesn't get passed in lap 1 T1. However it's looking like another Button win...

If Vettel gets overtaken by Button on T1, Vettels win hopes are over.

If Barrichello gets ahead of button on the Start and Vettel stays in the lead this is the best possible (realistic) outcome, for Redbull.

Because it will mean Button can't win the race unless something dramaticly weird happenes and Webber will be head to head with him the entire race as hes on the same fuel load.

But the Mercedes Engine in the Brawn takes off the Start soo bloody fast, It will be lucky if Vettel stays in the lead.

The irony was back in the end of the V10 days the Renualt engines had the major advantage on starts now there one of the most underpowered engines.

Even if Vettel maintains his lead in the first stint, he's up against the strategic genius of Ross Brawn. RBR's strategies have been lacking this season, while Brawn's (namely Button's) strategies have been spot-on. It's very possible that Button will somehow leap-frog Vettel in the pits.

Good factors for Vettel are that he is starting from pole, on the clean side of a notoriously green track, with a highly competitive car.

Having seen the weights it should make for an interesting start. Button is going to have a good chance to stick it up the inside in the first corner assuming both get realtively good starts.

Once you get back towards the Webber/Trulli region of the grid I imagine they will be more worried about keeping ahead of the KERS equipped Ferraris rather than gaining places.

Quote from samjh :

Even if Vettel maintains his lead in the first stint, he's up against the strategic genius of Ross Brawn. RBR's strategies have been lacking this season, while Brawn's (namely Button's) strategies have been spot-on. It's very possible that Button will somehow leap-frog Vettel in the pits.

Good factors for Vettel are that he is starting from pole, on the clean side of a notoriously green track, with a highly competitive car.

We've seen it go Button's way from behind already this year. If Button doesn't get ahead but can keep on the back of Vettel then he has more fuel to bang in some fast laps when Vettel pits and leaves him with some clean air. I imagine that, all other things being equal, that's how the race will go. Button will get ahead in T1 or at the first round of stops.

If Button does win this ahead of Vettel in second with Barrichello in third then he goes up to a 20pt lead in the championship, I believe. That would be very good for him.

Very good for him, but not very good for the championship. Although it's nice to see someone other than McLaren or Ferrari at the front, having someone run away with the championship this easly sucks all the suspense out of the championship.

alonso really light and starts 8th - renault suck

Quote from DejaVu :

alonso really light and starts 8th - renault suck

Indeed, but he's done really good, look where Piquet is... And the Mclaren's o.O

Button on fire

Barrichello - The NR2 - Book Two

Chapter 1:

I am the number two because i cannot get a good start. Blame the team!

Kovaleinen is crap, someone who thinks he can win the title when he actually cant.