also when you get a team with a very definate number one driver who has a very distinctive driving style and handling preference the car can become designed in such a way that its charecteristics can put the number 2 at a huge disadvantage if he is unable to adapt to it, especially ifthe team is unable or unwilling to produce a different setup to suit the number 2. put him in a different team with a different design philosophy and he can suddenly look like a different driver

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also when you get a team with a very definate number one driver who has a very distinctive driving style and handling preference the car can become designed in such a way that its charecteristics can put the number 2 at a huge disadvantage if he is unable to adapt to it, especially ifthe team is unable or unwilling to produce a different setup to suit the number 2. put him in a different team with a different design philosophy and he can suddenly look like a different driver

That was the plan at mcLaren too with ALonso/Hamilton. While some idiots thought Hamilton should play second fiddle in his first year he knew damn well if he didn't take a hold in that team team one he would've been destroyed.... exactly like Piquet has been through is career by Alonso and the media.

Hopefully now some people will understand why Hamilton did what he did in that team! F1 is a nasty business.

Anyway looks like Piquets dad will buy him a team to race in anyway now.

The thing was Renault where extremely lucky to get Alonso back in 08 so they would of favoured him alot more then mclaren did.

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Piquet has gone up a few notches in my estimation. Firstly, the disgraceful behaviour of Briatore at the last GP (leaving before the end because Alonso was out) really summed up how Piquet was seen and treated in the team. Secondly he whipped off his race suit to reveal a fairly big pair of bollocks by having a right old go at Flav both before and after he was shown the door.

Totally agree, that greaseball, primadona, f*ckwit, porn-film director look-a-likey Briatore is a fairly dispicable guy. An eye for a driver maybe, but he's lucky not to have both his eyes poked out for behaving like he does.

I really hope its a case of what goes around..........

kubica enters CIK KZ1 World Cup

GOOD LAD!!!!!

Eh, what

Oh, carting....

Williams opposes the Schumacher test. Ferrari replies:

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In a statement the Ferrari F1 team said at its website on Tuesday:
Guess who opposed the test with the F60? A team that hasn't won anything for years and yet didn't pass over the opportunity to demonstrate once more a lack of spirit of fair play.
Just for the record, the Scuderia Ferrari had given its approval to let Alguersuari test, but it seems even in this instance someone decided to stick to the precise wording of the regulations.

Head up their own arse much?

That paragraph from Ferrari could be used to describe Ferrari circa 1997 quite well.

F1 back to Montreal from 2010 on with a 7 year deal being prepared. But Ecclestone said it so we never know. Would be great, finally get to go see and hear F1 cars !!!

http://tsn.ca/

It's on the news here and on the canadian sports channel websites usually as headline .

And the mayor says no such deal

TBH I'd rather see IndyCars up there

Wow..... Ferrari really are asses.....

That comment made me think twice, because I couldnt understand if I was reading a proper spokesman from Ferrari, or just another Ferrari fanboi.....



Fairplay.... Uhm.... what?

I actually looked like this after Ferrari speak... :beady: ... and

For Kubica follwers -



Testing for next months World Cup for KZ1 (125cc 6-speed ) at Sarno. At the moment Robert is about 1.5 seconds off Laudato. No doubt he should be up to a closer pace for World Cup otherwise he isn't going to make it to the Sunday finals Should be OK though.

How about a kart discussion thread?

Never mind, Intrepid could have that with Vinny over PM.

Hehe

Vanina Ickx!

AFAIK he had some engine problems, or something related.

Some karting vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Bx__gIkv4 Alonso & Kubica

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... Lx0L0&feature=related Alonso in rentals. 1.2sec faster lap than everyone XD

Haven't read the thread, but thought I'd say this, apologies if it's been said already.

I think they should get rid of pitstops completely, too many races are won / lost in the pitlane and the strategy room. That may be exciting for the guys behind the scenes, but to watch on TV it's incredibly boring. Get rid of pitstops, use some harder tyres and get a bigger fuel tank and lets actually see some racing on the track, who cares if the cars are a bit slower as a result.

I know there'd probably be a lot more changes needed to the cars, but the principle would be just to keep all the cars together all the time so we could actually see some decent tussells, rather than the continued monotony that is on now.

There are still pit stops though after all they still have rubber on the ground, so with equal fuel load(assuming they all burn fuel the same, which i think this rule will help improve fuel consumption more then power) races can still be decided by pit stops which i dont mind as really we haven't experience many passes in recent years so they only way where going to see is this way.

allthough with KERS Removed next year(hopefully) we may see a more equal playing field.

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...races can still be decided by pit stops which i dont mind as really we haven't experience many passes in recent years so they only way where going to see is this way.

Well I for one do mind, this is meant to be the most prestigious race series in the world and they do it without actually racing each other on track. I want to see some proper action, some decent passes and battles, not listen to people explaining why someone's pitstop was .3 of a second slower than someone elses.

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There are still pit stops though after all they still have rubber on the ground

What? Just, what??!?!? My sofa has rubber on the ground, but doesn't require pitstops.

What about before refuelling when tyres might last the race distance? No mandatory stops, and sometimes (oftentimes) quicker without stopping. I also think F1 should be a non-stop contest, other than to repair damage or punctures. Who wants to see the drivers waiting to overtake in the pitlane?

Pitstop or not really doesn't make a difference, races in season 81 and early 82 were pretty processional as well. At least with different strategy you will have cars on different tires and fuel and potentially larger gap in speed.

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What? Just, what??!?!? My sofa has rubber on the ground, but doesn't require pitstops.

What about before refuelling when tyres might last the race distance? No mandatory stops, and sometimes (oftentimes) quicker without stopping. I also think F1 should be a non-stop contest, other than to repair damage or punctures. Who wants to see the drivers waiting to overtake in the pitlane?

Please, under the rules you have to have atleast 1 pitstop due to the rule of using both tires during the race.

A non stop contest will never work due to the events of indy 2005, even though we are using different tires now and indy isn't on the calender it still wont happen.

plus I dont think the aero rules have changed enough for a decent amount of overtaking to be done, allthough this could be due to the drivers attitude of just playing it safe till the next round of pit stops.

1. Then drop the silly 'use both compounds' rule.
2. What has Indy '05 got to do with this? Again, you show how little you recall of the event.
3. Exactly. At the moment (and for quite some time) overtaking has been difficult because of the aero. However, rather than try to overtake against the odds, they are happy to sit and wait for their stops. After all the pitstops are done we generally see a bit more overtaking as the drivers can no longer rely on waiting (though of course this isn't always the case, as they may 'settle for position').

Remove mandatory pitstops, provide a tyre that can cope with a race distance (perfectly possible - humans can make tyres that last for hundreds of thousands of miles, so why should 200 miles be difficult), and at least get the drivers in the frame of mind that encourages overtaking.

Well in Senna days (pre 94) they had pitstops, still didn't stop on-track action did it? Instead of promoting 'racing' just promote the sport, no stupid variables like this two compound tire rule.

I have to admit tho, the Qualifying system when it was first proposed, I thought it was an extract from an arcade game, but, it does generally make Qualifying more interesting to watch. It's like having two races in a weekend, the first is a time trial, the second is an actual race.