Quote from carey :

What about at the end of this clip.

I don't care about NASCAR.

What about this one?

I'm biased (I think he was the most entertaining F1 driver I ever watched in his early BMW years; I watch since '97) but he was one of the few drivers who actually tried to pass.

How the hell did this become about NASCAR? :rolleyes:

Actually Montoya is now quite the clean driver when it comes to NASCAR in 2009. At Watkins Glen he realized that points was important and gave everyone plenty of room.

I'd say NASCAR was good for Montoya, made him a smarter driver instead of an overzealous wrecker. But then again, if you are a overzealous wrecker in NASCAR, it'll end up in a 15 car pile up so if you continue that kind of behavior u'll just be making a whole lot of enemies in the garage. Shame this couldn't be nurtured in F1

Quote from Stigpt :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ojfR3xS8FA

+1
That literally made my day

Quote from carey :

Schumacher drove someone off the track (shock horror), and Montoya did his talking off the track, which's personally all I'll remember him for along with this/then this/maybe even this.

So what you're saying is:

1. You remember him for being hit in the face with a camera
2. You remember him for a mistake in a qualifying session
3. You remember him for Schumacher brake testing him under Safety Car in Monaco

Seriously, thats the most retarded thing I've ever read.

Quote from carey :

Schumacher drove someone off the track (shock horror), and Montoya did his talking off the track, which's personally all I'll remember him for along with this/then this/maybe even this.

Well, if you only remember him for crashing instead of being the awesome young driver he was in his first BMW years then you must have some very selective brain.

And you don't really want to suggest that the tunnel incident was somehow only Montoya's fault, do you?

And the camera video is actually one of the reasons why I like him so much.

Quote from carey :

maybe even this.

schumacher bremser, montoya treffen ist nicht, schumacher ping pong geschickt!

Quote from carey :

Schumacher drove someone off the track (shock horror), and Montoya did his talking off the track, which's personally all I'll remember him for along with this/then this/maybe even this.

That last one really wasnt Montoya's doing, Schumacher brake tested him in the dark of the tunnel... I can't think of many situations under a safety car where it is acceptable to have smoke coming off your tyres, let alone on the middle of a straight in a tunnel when the racers are getting their breath back in the most physically demanding track on the GP calendar...

Quote from carey :

Compared to who? Ralf Schumacher, who probably wouldn’t have even got into F1 without his famous surname, and didn’t last more than a year without his big brother being there.

If you think Ralf Schumacher got into F1 because of his surname, you are mistaken. He was good in his early years very good infact. He was even good in Williams, but after that, that's when it went downhill.

I find it odd that now McLaren are not being continually harassed things seem to simply have shifted toward Renault. It appears to the cynical observer in me that there has been a shift of focus in FIA punishment.

This is not the last thing that will happen to Renault, and I suspect they will soon reach a point where they need to consider whether the FIA are coming off worse than them in PR or whether they can better their brand image by not being involved in F1.

Quote from Becky Rose :

I find it odd that now McLaren are not being continually harassed things seem to simply have shifted toward Renault. It appears to the cynical observer in me that there has been a shift of focus in FIA punishment.

They are just picking up where they left off, remember the crap they got about the totally legal Mass Damper?

Quote from carey :

Compared to who?

Compared to every other driver on the grid.

lets hope Renault get banned then it will get rid of pumpkin head (Briatore)

Quote from carey :

How about just his teammate (at McLaren)?

I was talking about his BMW years which you would have realized if you bothered to read the post properly.

Quote from carey :

Would that have made any difference (and I did read it you ar$e otherwise I wouldn't have quoted it in a reply).

Yes (you are supposed to put a question mark at the end of a question).

Quote from carey :

You’re clutching at straws here, and don’t think I’m not aware of what your doing, as you where one of the dozen or so [insert expletive here] I quickly identified when I first arrived here.

No shit, sherlock.

Yours, the forum villain.

Quote from carey :

You’re clutching at straws here, and don’t think I’m not aware of what your doing, as you where one of the dozen or so [insert expletive here] I quickly identified when I first arrived here.

You are a demo racer, you're not en-titled to an opinion didn't you know?

The only real year you could compare Montoya with Kimi was in 2006 as in 2005 he was out with injury quite a few times, added to the fact he was in soo many unlucky incidents.

Watch Brazil 2001, like hes 3rd race of his career and he was making shumi look like a noob untill some backmarker i forgot who it was got in the way and it destroyed his car.

Quote from Mustafur :

Watch Brazil 2001, like hes 3rd race of his career and he was making shumi look like a noob untill some backmarker i forgot who it was got in the way and it destroyed his car.

Verstappen. :gnasher:

Quote from Mustafur :

The only real year you could compare Montoya with Kimi was in 2006 as in 2005 he was out with injury quite a few times, added to the fact he was in soo many unlucky incidents.

Watch Brazil 2001, like hes 3rd race of his career and he was making shumi look like a noob untill some backmarker i forgot who it was got in the way and it destroyed his car.

Verstappen in an Arrows IIRC

Quote from carey :

You’re clutching at straws here, and don’t think I’m not aware of what your doing, as you where one of the dozen or so [insert expletive here] I quickly identified when I first arrived here.

Montoya was bad at Mclaren because he didn't like the team and the car wasn't suited to his driving style. He was pretty damn good with BMW, definately one of the best drivers on the grid and much better than his team mate. So I guess it does matter which team Mr Zeebeedeedaa mentioned in his post. So complete this sentence, Zeugy doesy noty....?

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Montoya was bad at Mclaren because he didn't like the team and the car wasn't suited to his driving style. He was pretty damn good with BMW, definately one of the best drivers on the grid and much better than his team mate. So I guess it does matter which team Mr Zeebeedeedaa mentioned in his post. So complete this sentence, Zeugy doesy noty....?

Same could be said about Kimi as well i think. allthough the irony is he won hes only title with Ferrari most people can tell he has been no where near hes Mclaren days.

Certian people struggle with some cars, even Alonso was struggling with the oversteery Mclaren in 07 when he came from renault.

Kimi and Montoya have completely different driving styles, one was eventually going to faulter and considering Kimi was at Mclaren for 3 years prior the car would of naturally been adapted to his already.

How the f are you even trying to make your arguments credible when you call Ralf a turd?

You and your whole argument is invalid, carey. you might as well shift+s

June 20th 2009:

Quote :

Mosley: "There are one or two individuals... well there is one individual who fancies himself as the Bernie [Ecclestone]. Whether he could do the job or not I don't know."

When asked to identify the individual he was referring to, Mosley said: "I think Flavio Briatore sees himself as the Bernie. He is fully entitled to that view, but I think Bernie would feel if he wants my business, or CVC's business, then he should come and buy it, he can't just take it.

Payback time.

Pot calling kettle black?

so... when is f1 getting socked?