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#77 - 5haz
Stop posting and get back to work then.
just watching the quali now... or what's left of it...

q1 didn't get aired, and i don't hear any commentary.

and then algu- crashed and they red-flagged the quali for 5 minutes...

they come back and green-flag it, and still no commentary.

now glock crashed... another red flag. :ices_rofl

edit: omg, they go green and the commentary comes back...
Quote from Noccy :For those looking for a stream, this little gem streams 44 british channels among which BBC Sports (for FP's), eurosport, normal BBC and much more.
U need to have VLC installed in it's default location, but for the rest it's just click and watch.
BBC sports sync is off though(other channs are fine), so u will need a recent VLC version and go into extra/synchronisation and put the synch to -3.8s.

http://www.myp2pforum.eu/live-tv/41045-british-tv.html


edit : meh just as I post this all channels seem to have died...hope it comes back up as I managed to watch last weekends race and todays FP1 on it without a problem

Wow, that works! Thanks for the link.

It's funny my TV is actually ahead of the stream.
Quote from bunder9999 :just watching the quali now... or what's left of it...

q1 didn't get aired, and i don't hear any commentary.

and then algu- crashed and they red-flagged the quali for 5 minutes...

they come back and green-flag it, and still no commentary.

now glock crashed... another red flag. :ices_rofl

edit: omg, they go green and the commentary comes back...

Yeah, damn TSN. Have you noticed the sound lags too?
Quote from Mattesa :Yeah, damn TSN. Have you noticed the sound lags too?

not really... they were messing with the aspect ratio during quali for a few races in a row though... kinda annoying.

seeing how bad this quali was, it makes me wonder if half the grid will even finish...
Loved it when Alonso said he slowed for the yellows just after they showed an onboard where his foot is planted. Silly lying git.
What the hell was that about? If qualifying was that crazy just imagine what the bloody race will be like! At least I predicted Vettel would be on pole, shame Hamilton could only get 3rd though, and it's a shame Webber is still the unluckiest driver in the world.
Just finished watching the quali, wow I'm fascinated that there were so many significant driver errors, maybe there should be more tracks that have this effect. Though, bigger run-offs would probably be a good idea. Hopefully it'll be an exciting race, but tbh in these fast corners it's going to be difficult to keep close enough.
Quote from NotAnIllusion :Just finished watching the quali, wow I'm fascinated that there were so many significant driver errors, maybe there should be more tracks that have this effect. Though, bigger run-offs would probably be a good idea. Hopefully it'll be an exciting race, but tbh in these fast corners it's going to be difficult to keep close enough.

That's what happens when people don't race there for ages, then have very limited practice sessions To busy learning and pushing to much during qualy, looking forward to a good race, but i don't expect much overtaking as usual
Quote from DejaVu :That's what happens when people don't race there for ages, then have very limited practice sessions To busy learning and pushing to much during qualy, looking forward to a good race, but i don't expect much overtaking as usual

It's Suzuka, it produces great racing. Even in the old cars we had quite a lot of overtaking, granted some of it was because of the weather but not always. I'm hoping for a very eventful race, hopefully we will see some of the fast guys cutting through from the back.

EDIT: Anyone else doing a real hardcore and staying up until 5am to watch it live? Getting up early doesn't count, you need to be a real man and do an all nighter.
Quote from ATC Quicksilver :It's Suzuka, it produces great racing. Even in the old cars we had quite a lot of overtaking, granted some of it was because of the weather but not always. I'm hoping for a very eventful race, hopefully we will see some of the fast guys cutting through from the back.

EDIT: Anyone else doing a real hardcore and staying up until 5am to watch it live? Getting up early doesn't count, you need to be a real man and do an all nighter.

No.

I tried to get up at 5 to watch quali this morning but I woke up at 3 and slept through it instead.

I'll try again tomorrow
Quote from ATC Quicksilver :
EDIT: Anyone else doing a real hardcore and staying up until 5am to watch it live? Getting up early doesn't count, you need to be a real man and do an all nighter.

I did that all the time when i was working 3rd shift, i get from work not before 3 AM, sometimes 5 AM, and i'm no tired at all, so it's easier to just wait for it then sleep 2, 3 hours.. but now since i'm working normal shifts i just couldn't do it, i haven't even get up for qualies, i was that tired and sleep hungry.. but for the race i'm probably doing an alll nighter
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/10/10041.html

1. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 658.5kg
2. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 655.5
3. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 656
4. Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber, 660
5. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 661
6. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 684.5
7. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber, 686
8. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 650*
9. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn GP, 660.5*
10. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso, 682.5
11. Jenson Button, Brawn GP, 658.5*
12. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 675*
13. Giancarlo Fisichella, Ferrari, 661.5
14. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 665.4*
15. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 695.7
16. Romain Grosjean, Renault, 691.8
17. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 689.5*
18. Vitantonio Liuzzi, Force India, 682.5*
19. Timo Glock, Toyota, n/a
20. Mark Webber, Red Bull, n/a

*5 place penalty

Thats a lot of penalties!
Quote from ATC Quicksilver :It's Suzuka, it produces great racing. Even in the old cars we had quite a lot of overtaking, granted some of it was because of the weather but not always. I'm hoping for a very eventful race, hopefully we will see some of the fast guys cutting through from the back.

EDIT: Anyone else doing a real hardcore and staying up until 5am to watch it live? Getting up early doesn't count, you need to be a real man and do an all nighter.

I did that for the past two Melbourne races. Was quite fun

But dont know about Suzuka. See how long I stay up till, then I will decide.
The penalties for ignoring the yellow flag are ridiculous! 5 Places back after Q3 when they shouldn't even have passed Q2.

There have been harder penalties for less...

Good Luck for Rosberg though, heavy car in 6th place, now how will he screw up this time?

Also: Please vote for the lap Sutil is gonna crash this time.
Quote from ATC Quicksilver :
EDIT: Anyone else doing a real hardcore and staying up until 5am to watch it live? Getting up early doesn't count, you need to be a real man and do an all nighter.

yep, just back from the local, got a couple of bottles in the fridge, the call to the local curry house has gone in and an unimaginable mess of delicious yet potential damaging amount of curry,chips and assorted meat are currently being cooked in, what one can only hope for, is a decent and hygienically clean kitchen.

That should all arrive just in time for MOTD to kick off, as a sit down in front of my roaring coal fire with Hansen, Linker and Shearer, I will munch through what could be potential food poisoning, all the while enjoying the footballing delights. After that I have the football league to wallow in the finest that the lower leagues can offer...including my beloved Newcastle United.

That takes me up to some time after midnight, where I have a couple of options. There could be some bizarre yet strange cult movie on sky movies somewhere, or I could look at my even stranger DVD collection. That should take me up to the race.

Then after the race, you would expect sleep.....but not me, oh no. Head of to Inverness at around 9am and find a pub that is open after 11am (thank you law change) and settle in for some friendly banter with ICT fans while occasionally looking at the Old Firm game on the box. Then onwards to the dump (after a bite to eat from the local McDonald's.....maybe 2 big macs ), to watch my team, my hero's Ross County take on the evil ICT. Finally ending back home roughly at 9pm in need to iron a shirt and trouser half cut.

It's going to be a long 24 hours I fear...bring it on.
Quote from 5haz :If Button wins the championship he won't have won it because he deserved it more than anyone else, but because everyone else deserved it less then him, if that makes sense.

What I mean is, he shouldn't be able to get away with such poor showings, but his main rivals have been so crap at putting a sustained challnge together that they deserve it less than him.

I do completely agree with you.
Button is not a true champion but his contenders have been less champions then him throughout the season.
Quote from Mackie The Staggie :yep, just back from the local, got a couple of bottles in the fridge, the call to the local curry house has gone in and an unimaginable mess of delicious yet potential damaging amount of curry,chips and assorted meat are currently being cooked in, what one can only hope for, is a decent and hygienically clean kitchen.

That should all arrive just in time for MOTD to kick off, as a sit down in front of my roaring coal fire with Hansen, Linker and Shearer, I will munch through what could be potential food poisoning, all the while enjoying the footballing delights. After that I have the football league to wallow in the finest that the lower leagues can offer...including my beloved Newcastle United.

That takes me up to some time after midnight, where I have a couple of options. There could be some bizarre yet strange cult movie on sky movies somewhere, or I could look at my even stranger DVD collection. That should take me up to the race.

Then after the race, you would expect sleep.....but not me, oh no. Head of to Inverness at around 9am and find a pub that is open after 11am (thank you law change) and settle in for some friendly banter with ICT fans while occasionally looking at the Old Firm game on the box. Then onwards to the dump (after a bite to eat from the local McDonald's.....maybe 2 big macs ), to watch my team, my hero's Ross County take on the evil ICT. Finally ending back home roughly at 9pm in need to iron a shirt and trouser half cut.

It's going to be a long 24 hours I fear...bring it on.

Awesome, awesome. A true man, supporting Newcastle was the icing on the cake. I'm a pussy and am simply waking up for the race...I feel inadequate. Weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. Grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. I'm foul and disgusting. I'm a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on me. Even sheep won't have sex with me. I'm unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot. Compared to you, anyway.
I would stay up but I'd be asleep by about 2 thus failing, so I shall go to sleep and then try not to miss the start
#96 - JJ72
Quote from Storm_Cloud :That's an interesting legal point. If that's okay then I'm off to hotwire a M5 as soon as I finish work, because I can't afford one of those.

But I am not financially limited to make that decision.

Just that I can't pay being a Hong Kong citizen, even if I want to.

They lost nothing, I didn't even use their bandwidth, and actually preferred it to a Hong Kong rival which provide a similiar product.
Quote from JJ72 :But I am not financially limited to make that decision.

Just that I can't pay being a Hong Kong citizen, even if I want to.

They lost nothing, I didn't even use their bandwidth, and actually preferred it to a Hong Kong rival which provide a similiar product.

Sigh,

Here's how it works....

FIA owns and controls F1. They have sold the commercial rights to F1 to the Commercial Rights Holder (Bernie Ecclestone, CVC and so on). The last deal I saw figures on was $375m for 100 years(!!). The Commercial Rights Holder then sells the media rights, usually on a geographical basis, to media companies (eg BBC). These media companies will then exploit the rights.
  • The Commercial Rights Holder reserves the rights they have not sold to others. This means that if F1 is not available in your area you are still infringing on those rights.
  • By watching illicit streams you are stealing intellectual property. It doesn't have to be tangible to be property.
  • You do not have an inalienable right to watch F1. If F1 is not available in you area (or is only available on PPV) that is not a defence against the crime you are committing.
  • "No harm" is not a valid defence in law. Just because you don't think something will affect anyone else doesn't mean that act changes from being illegal to legal. Speeding on a deserted road is still speeding. Smoking crack at home is still illegal.
You might not think you are doing wrong, but you are. There is no contrary position, no obtuse example that can supercede the argument. It might not be the most serious crime in the world, but people seem to think that, for a variety of stupid reasons, what they are doing is not illegal.
So I did nothing illegal then, as here in Belgium we get channels that air F1 from 4 different countries on the normal non-PPV TV, including the BBC. And I only watch the BBC stream via the Britishtv.exe, none of the other channels. :P

As stated above by someone else, it works fine again...but please only use it if u recieve the BBC on your Tv allready so as to not annoy Storm Cloud any further.
I do hope next time u drive home from work u meet a police officer who is as anal about THE LAW as u seem to be and fines u for going 1MPH over the limit.
Quote from ATC Quicksilver :EDIT: Anyone else doing a real hardcore and staying up until 5am to watch it live? Getting up early doesn't count, you need to be a real man and do an all nighter.

I wanted to but I'm already tired now and it's still 5 hours.
I don't speed, but I regularly hit 100mph on the way to work. No speed limit, no law break.

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