WTF?

1. How do you know?

2. So what, this is racing. There is no reason I should lay down and die just because you can turn low numbers with no other cars on the track.

3. I don't really want to let you get in front of me just to have to avoid you and the three car pileup you are going to cause in a lap or so.


What is up with all the people out there who seem to have text in the title mapped to a button and drive around the track mashing it repetitively? If you are that much faster than I am then you should have no problem making a clean pass. If you need to ask me to let you pass, then you are not that much, if at all, faster and we are going to do some racing. Note that this is not an invitation for you to plow into into me under braking or barge down the inside and take us both out. Sheesh.

I'm just coming back to LFS after a couple of years away, and the lunatic density on the public servers seems to have risen dramatically.

Quote from SilverArrows77 :

Its possible you are joining demo servers now, as they have been "incorporated" into the global server list in the time you have been away...

Aha, I did not know that.

My racing buddy and I signed up for a year of iracing last night, so I guess we'll be checking that out for a while.

I'll certainly be back to LFS sooner or later, and I don't picture this keeping me from buying an S3 license when the time comes, but a week of getting hammered by the kiddies on the public servers left us really wanting to find some clean racing.

We dont know the full story though do we? Were you a lap down? Were you even aware you were a lap down? People have every right to be pissed off if your holding them up while they're trying to lap you.

But I agree that people who do it while on the same lap as you are arseholes.

Personally I wait for the backmarker to crash me out, then I hurl the wall of abuse at them, so if they drive properly, then nobody gets upset. Insults only when its due.

Even if you are a lap down, surely it is the responsibility for the ones who are a lap ahead to negotiate their way past back markers themeslves, instead of expecting them to get immediatly out of the way whilst spamming a binded message saying 'LET ME PASS!!1' 10 times a second.

If their SO fast that they are in a position to lap you then surely they can easily pass with no problems?

Quote from danthebangerboy :

Even if you are a lap down, surely it is the responsibility for the ones who are a lap ahead to negotiate their way past back markers themeslves, instead of expecting them to get immediatly out of the way whilst spamming a binded message saying 'LET ME PASS!!1' 10 times a second.

If their SO fast that they are in a position to lap you then surely they can easily pass with no problems?

T'is true that they're supposed to find around, but theres no reason why the car infront should not help a little or deliberately block.

Im certainly not saying that spamming binded messages is a good thing.

I was definitely not lapped in the instances I am describing above. If I am lapped and the race leaders are coming around I'll usually lift a bit on the next straight to let them through. Our own guidelines here state that this is not necessary, however:

http://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/Rules_of_Clean_Racing#Lapping

Lapping

L-1: It is a fundamental rule of motorsport and sim racing that when a driver receives a blue flag, this is to let him know that a faster car is about to lap him.
L-2: The leading driver that is lapping the slower car must treat the situation as though he's overtaking a normal competitor - and not assume the lapped driver should leap out of the way at all costs.
L-3: The driver that is being lapped should let the lead driver past and/or not resist to be overtaken if the lead driver has sufficient overlap. Only move out of the way for a lapped car when you believe it is safe to do so. For example, not on the apex of a corner.

All this raises another question too - how can you turn off chat completely?

I never want to chat or see it when I race.

In my country it's illegal to be caught using txt when driving anyway - this is supposed to be a simulation isn't it? That's what loads of folks on here keep telling me. That being the case, there really should be a fine to go with getting caught doing it too.

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All this raises another question too - how can you turn off chat completely?

I never want to chat or see it when I race.

Press the "-" key to ignore chat messages. Press "-" again to enable them again. Typing a message yourself will automatically enable chat messages again should you have them disabled.

You will still receive LFSW messages, though.

If you can't overtake then you aren't so fast.

sorry for the hi-jack but i just when there is a blue flag, pull off at the next corner...i am so slow that i know i will mess them up

does it matter that i am so slow? should i just maintain the racing line and let them pass, or give them the line?

Quote from logitekg25 :

sorry for the hi-jack but i just when there is a blue flag, pull off at the next corner...i am so slow that i know i will mess them up

does it matter that i am so slow? should i just maintain the racing line and let them pass, or give them the line?

I would say maintain your line and drive nice and smoothly, and ease off the gas a bit when you reach a relatively straight part of the track so that they can make their overtaking move.

when possible i use hazzards also

Quote from obsolum :

Press the "-" key to ignore chat messages. Press "-" again to enable them again. Typing a message yourself will automatically enable chat messages again should you have them disabled.

You will still receive LFSW messages, though.

Use Shift + "-" to block all messages.

Quote from zeugnimod :

Use Shift + "-" to block all messages.

Ah, didn't know that. Thanks

Seen people spamming that message before, it's anoying. Also people in LFS should start to understand the blue flag rule. Sure, the lapped car should try to somewhat ease the pass for the faster car, but should not at all costs throw his car out of the racing line. It's the faster's car responsebilty to pass safe, while the blue flagged car should try to help out some. In LFS however, people whines if you don't littrary throw your car off the track, or drives 10kmh when they pass.

then i drive as obvious as possible to say 'pass!' and they end up not paying attention and hitting me and being all like 'whut da F*K!1!!11!!1'

Thanks to both who posted about killing chat altogether, sounds very handy indeed, shall try it next time I'm in the car.

My advice, don't stop the chat. If you completely ignores it people might look on you as ignorant, as you did not care at all. Best is to say, "sorry, but please pass on a safe place, this was not my mistake", or something. I from time to time get yelled at, but I yells back at them that they can go read the rules or shut up. Then they usually says "BUT I AM REAL LIFE RACER AND I KNOW BETTER THAN U OMG!, then I just usually ends up saying "your a bloody wanker, you know that?". Sometimes I gets votes for that, but I canot be bottered to be lectured by kids that might have driven karts twice and belives they know anything about racing.

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"BUT I AM REAL KARTOR AND I KNOW BETTER THAN U OMFFFG!"

Fixed

I don't see any harm in toggling chat off, and then typing / pressing a bind as an apology if I make a doodoo

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

Fixed

I don't see any harm in toggling chat off, and then typing / pressing a bind as an apology if I make a doodoo

Haha

I agree that there is nothing wrong with that, sadly I know that most people that starts screaming about the blue flagged thingy will look on it as ignorant
Damn karters...

I was just taking the view that's it's safer with it off for all the same reasons that it is true in real world.

I don't for one moment imagine real world rally cross participants text each other, and this is meant to be a sim isn't it?

Or is the chat meant to a mobile phone sim that is built into the car sim?!

What next, a twitter sim built in too? Imagine people tweeting during a race!

What ever goes on in a race, I figure we can always talk or argue about it in the bar afterwards, and that sounds much closer to the real thing to me.

Quote from MudPuppy :

I was just taking the view that's it's safer with it off for all the same reasons that it is true in real world.

I don't for one moment imagine real world rally cross participants text each other, and this is meant to be a sim isn't it?

Or is the chat meant to a mobile phone sim that is built into the car sim?!

What next, a twitter sim built in too? Imagine people tweeting during a race!

What ever goes on in a race, I figure we can always talk or argue about it in the bar afterwards, and that sounds much closer to the real thing to me.

Good point there mate

Oh and rallycross is a contact sport

Quote from MudPuppy :

What next, a twitter sim built in too? Imagine people tweeting during a race!

Don't tempt fate..

Quote from The Very End :

Oh and rallycross is a contact sport

Absolutely, that can happen from time to time, but not contact(s)! :littleang

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

Don't tempt fate..

yeah, now you mention it - DOH!