How long until someone twists this tragedy to say all Arabs are evil? The life of anyone with an Arab sounding name in the military has just become hell.
Maybe if they stopped letting themselves be stereotyped...oh wait, that's asking too much.
Edit, that came off as very harsh and irrational...'themselves' being Islamic extremists. Not everyone from that general region is a bad person...that's kind of obvious.
I thought all people from Alabama were red necks..............stereotyping is bad, stop being foolish and ignorant of facts. what can the main majority of the people in the east do? give out cookies to people and cure aids? even then most would still deem them as dangerous fools.
P.S. I do not think all from Alabama are red necks, and i don't mean to bash you. War is bad wherever it is, always hits more when it's on home soil.
Thats my exact point, in reality, the guy was probably just as "American" as anyone else, but the fact that his name is Arab is going to be fodder for those who want to spread their hate for Islam.
And if you Americans didn't continue to enforce the "ignorant and angry" stereotype people might actually listen to what you have to say. At this point I don't think anyone gives a ****.
Would you enlighten us how exactly muslims should act to stop enforcing a stereotype?
That makes about as much sense as demanding that americans should stop enforcing the stereotype of being dumb, overweight and little informed if not wholly ignorant of the world outside of the USA's borders...
On Topic: tragic, like every time someone runs amok. I perosnally don't think that a muslim saying "allahu ackbar" indicates extremesim, as it's about as common as "amen", "halleluja" or "jesus" in christianity. And you would call someone a chrisitian fundamentalist if he uttered those words in a situation of great emotional stress, which running amok no doubtedly is.
See lads, if you go to Iraq to fight terrorism you wont find any, terrorism happens on your doorstep.
Of course we all know the two wars in the middle East are slightly more than just 'fighting terrorism'.
And yes it is terrorism, I imagine it is rather terrorising to be caught in a shooting. You don't have to be Muslim to be a terrorist, and you don't have to have a hate for the USA to be one either, what I mean to say is we don't really have a clear idea what his motives were, they could be anything, not necessarily Islamic Extremist related, but it is an act of terrorism either way.
The guy was just a sad nutcase with emotional issues that may or may not have been exacerbated by his religious convictions. He was US born and raised and he was a devout Muslim. His family cannot understand what happened. He reportedly had an extreme internal conflict about being deployed to Iraq. He had been reprimanded in the past for poor interpersonal actions with patients (he's a psychiatrist). He has a record of opposing the wars and seemingly had an unusual fear of being deployed.
Personally, I would not call this guy a Islamic extremist. He did reportedly post some questionable stuff online, but that's just a report and not exactly indicative of that kind of behavior (we all post stupid stuff online, now don't we?). He was just a sick individual who lost it. Unfortunately, he had to take a lot of other innocent people out along the way. I will never understand what drives people to do things like that.
Yes, they being 'Islamic extremists'. Why are you trying to defame what I say? My boss is a Muslim, I have this same conversation with him and he is less offended than you by what I say. For the most part, he agrees.
...I mean shit, do you not read the news? This stuff happends everywhere, there are still Islamic driven bombings elsewhere...and blah blah blah. It's all fueled by religion...it has nothing to do with your race or creed, there's crazy white people who get sucked into that stuff and blow themselves up. It's all just stupid kiddy shit when it comes down to it...and that's how I feel. I'm not saying all Muslim people are bad...I'm saying all religion is just weird and creates problems but if it makes people happy in the process so be it, I'm not going to go around and preach my views and call people stupid and ignorant because to each their own...but when a religious group goes around blowing shit up and killing random innocent people because their book says those people are evil, that's dumb, that's ridiculous dumb. I think you can at least agree with that regardless of what your views are. Think about it...going around blowing yourself to pieces killing random people just because you think they are evil...does that that sound like an awesome plan? It doesn't...it's stupid...
Well, demanding that islamic extremists should stop acting like islamic extremists, despite being actually quite a good whish, is the same as asking soldiers not to go to war. You basically have them stop the very thing that defines their role.
Concernig the text snippets: well, it seems he was a religious nutcase after all. But those ain't limited to islam, there are plenty of christians too who think the king james bible is the actual infallible word of god...
But I doubt he was member of an islamic extremist group, or that this thing was planned on the long run. Just an "ordinary" amok run, where the attacker coincidentally was a muslim.
And about religion: it's my firm belief (harharhar) that the world would be a much better place to live in if we would omit that concept alltogether.
He is trying to defame what you said because speed1 is just another one of the typical white middle class liberals who tell people what they should be offended by and don't dare criticise Islam because it might be seen as 'racist' or 'Islamophobic' (which isn't even a real word), and assume that all Muslims are the 'moderate' type who wouldn't dare go around blowing things up or shooting loads of people for the sake of their twisted religious views.
Instead of arguing about the motives and causes and whatnot, we need to stop and think long and hard about why certain sections of society believe it right to maim and kill as many people as possible in the name of some twisted version of their religion....
