yes it is an issue on all phones
its just not as bad for everyone since most countries dont have cell coverage as crappy as the us
but every iphone drops a good 10db more in signal level than any other phone simply by holding it
yes it is an issue on all phones
its just not as bad for everyone since most countries dont have cell coverage as crappy as the us
but every iphone drops a good 10db more in signal level than any other phone simply by holding it
I'm saying negative on that one. I hold my iPhone all day and night, and I don't have any reception loss. I get a solid 5 bars, and that's AFTER the 4.01 update.
Yes, read that earlier.
Thats more like it. Looks great, both inside (OS) and outside. It actually looks like a phone in the first place! Something hard to say about the Kin One. The touchscreen looks great on video.
Looking forward to it. Might be an upgrade.
the phone is a samsung i8910HD jus with different icon on the bottom buttons. i know coz i got this fone xD
"Microsoft still has a few months before it intends to get the first volley of Windows Phone 7-based products to the marketplace, but we've recently been provided with reference hardware -- a not-for-retail Samsung called "Taylor" that's closely modeled on the Symbian-based i8910HD -- to get a feel for where they're at as the clock ticks down."
So yeah. Its just used to show off (W7) at the moment and see how it is.
So yeah. Its just used to show off (W7) at the moment and see how it is.
There isn't an official Windows 7 phone. Hardware manufacturers are free to make one as they will.. but they must conform to much stricter specs than previous versions of Windows Mobile.. along with no pre-installed vendor apps.. so basically any Win7Phone you buy, will be the same, just different form factor.
I think I'm completely fine with that.
It will give me options...
Also, I dont want another phone that looks like this...
Dont really trust Microsoft when it comes to the actual design of the hardware.
(Yes I know they didnt really desing it. But they had a lot to do with it)
That new X360 is an eyesore, too. :/
Honestly.. I think microsoft took a good shot at the "teenage" market with the Kin... except they failed to market it.. Most teenagers want an iPhone or Blackberry (BBM is the only reason for the BB for most teens).. They didn't give anyone a reason to want one, and Sprint raped it too by charging smartphone data plans for what was effectively a souped up dumbphone.
I dunno about WinPhone 7... I loved WinMo 6.5.. but got heavy into my iPhone-ness...
IMO thats the main reason it failed.
While the concept on paper might have looked good, (Social Websites/PhotoSharing/FileSharing/Constant Updates etc) it cost an absolute fortune to pull off and use to its maximum potential....
Too early for something like that I think.
They did.. they charged smartphone data rates (like 70$ a month) for it... if they cut it to a more manageable like 30$ a month... it'd definitely have gotten a lot of the teenage market.
Uhm. Yes I know.
I agreed on that.
"IMO thats the main reason it failed."
To your, " Sprint raped it..."
I agreed on that.
"IMO thats the main reason it failed."
To your, " Sprint raped it..."
Yeah, I'm just extending the thought about what a better price point would bhave been... I did read the post... just expanding.
Ahhh. My bad. 
But yeah. That is spot on.
But yeah. That is spot on.
that's why i'm shocked to hear they discontinued it after only two-three months... the tweens would have loved that phone.
It was Verizon, btw... not Sprint.
Whatever. US Telecoms suck 
Except every iPhone 4 I've used or seen?
mine drops nothing when i pick it up and 75% of the time has full coverage signal
For what purposse are you actually designing antennas Shotglass?
Standard 'Having experience in the industry...' trump card, we've seen it played several times before on this forum by certain other member. :rolleyes:
which probably boils down to a matter of tests done by people using (semi) meaningful numbers instead of bafoons who dont know the first thing about rf or antennas trusting completely meaningless bars
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2
if you actually still believe that there is no issue after steve jobs publicly humiliated himself during that press conference the apple reality distortion field has rendered your brain completetely inert
lately its mostly rfid
I have experience in racing, cars, computing and lots of other things. Thus I cannot be wrong, misinformed or mistaken in any of those. Apparently.
The fact that the users of THIS forum with an iPhone 4 don't seem to have the problem (that I can recall anyone saying, I may be wrong) must therefore mean that it's a design flaw that affects all iPhone 4s without exception.
Yes, the phone has flaws. No it isn't perfect. But the signal issue is a minor one that probably strikes one in ten phones at the most - probably closer to one in one hundred.
The fact that the users of THIS forum with an iPhone 4 don't seem to have the problem (that I can recall anyone saying, I may be wrong) must therefore mean that it's a design flaw that affects all iPhone 4s without exception.
Yes, the phone has flaws. No it isn't perfect. But the signal issue is a minor one that probably strikes one in ten phones at the most - probably closer to one in one hundred.
more like every single phone that happens to be in an area with bad reception
its hardly news that the cell network in america is rubbish (has anyone in europe ever even heard the term femtocell?) and so the issue is a lot more noticeable there which ties right into the very apparent nonexistance of any american iphone owners in this thread
Wow, I guess USD $70 for a dumbphone data plan is ridiculously expensive. It's obvious Microsoft's Kin wouldn't succeed. Just as an example, I pay BRL $50 (USD $ 28) for an 3G unlimited data plan (also, no speed cuts even after I downloaded more than 3GB of data from it in about 20 days). The only thing is, you pay for the speed you get: my unlimited data plan is for 300kbps (I've gotten a maximum of 40KB/s download speed on torrents and usually 25 to 30KB/s on the browser. Maximum upload speed registered was 18KB/s). The 1mbps unlimited data plan costs around USD $67 (there is no better plan than this one at the moment from my carrier in the place I live).
iPhone 4
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