After doing some maths and stuff, i figured that if there's sold 5k or more S2 Licences the devs have made roughly 5 million NOK (Norwegian Krone)

or £120 000.

Y U NO KEEP GOING? Devs are rich, Scawen could at least have hired someone to help him!
I know this is inb4 locking though.
But really, three years, I wouldn't count on any patch/update this year :/

Feel free to lock the thread after i can has some wise replies

that's all good and well. but you've forgotten to take into account the cost of living. so 5K LFS licenses over x years - cost of living = break even.

Don't the devs have a everyday job or something? I highly doubt they can live of the profits of LFS.

Do you really believe that each of them put in own pocket 8£ from every sold S2 licence? Might be shocking for some people,but there is such thing called taxes! I don't know UK's laws,in my country they're roughly 1/4 of income,so it reduces to 6£ now. Then other thing - servers! Since it's not just a cheap homesite but quite serious database,it also costs quite something (have no clue how much though). Anyway - with all the incomes and costs around LFS,I think they're far away to be called rich.

Kewl, got really quick response. Noone gives a f*ck.

Anyways, I can't see where the rest of the money would go? D:

But then again, i live under a rock on dial-up.

:edit: soorrrryyyyy, I'm lazy and didn't read the entire post above.

Taxes...

Taxes, mortgages, insurance, etc etc.

Quote from Bose321 :

Don't the devs have a everyday job or something? I highly doubt they can live of the profits of LFS.

Scawen don't have a job outside LFS i think.

And a counterquestion - if you think that selling licences is a good way to become rich,don't you think they would already finished S3 to become even more rich?

Yes.

Yet, i'd gladly buy it if it contained the physics + car and track

Well, if you think of all the years of development, and the fact they are 3 people sharing the profit, it's not that much of money.

Sure, if they have gotten it all at once it would be different, but when it's spread out on... like 8-9 years or so, it's not much

However, if they manage to get S3 final (not alpha or beta), I guess a lot of people would buy it on the same time = much money for the devs.

Quote from The Very End :

Well, if you think of all the years of development, and the fact they are 3 people sharing the profit, it's not that much of money.

Exactly. And if you take into consideration all the complaints and nagging about the sim and future releases in this forum, I certainly wouldn't want to switch with them

Quote from Guthix :

After doing some maths and stuff, i figured that if there's sold 5k or more S2 Licences the devs have made roughly 5 million NOK (Norwegian Krone)

or £120 000.

Y U NO KEEP GOING? Devs are rich, Scawen could at least have hired someone to help him!
I know this is inb4 locking though.
But really, three years, I wouldn't count on any patch/update this year :/

Feel free to lock the thread after i can has some wise replies

Firstly - it's really none of your business.
Secondly - it's really none of your business.
Thirdly - How many businesses do you walk into and start to nag the owners about how much profit they are/aren't making and how they should run their business?

Lololol. Can't you care less? Why does it bother you so much. Just let them live, I'm not really jelaous of their work.

I've been thinking about this for a long while.

But I just can't imagine the devs having no other job then LFS. They must have other jobs. They can't just live from the money they earn on LFS.


Another thing is that I seriously think that Eric and Scawen are working their ass off.

For one I believe there's more coming then just tyre physics.

Just imagine, there will be break-off damage, this would require Eric to recreate all the cars. This would take some serious time.

Then for another I can imagine more cars and tracks being in S3 then being told now.


We did see the devs talk about stuff Eric is working on, but doesn't want to show anything, which is very sad.


I just wish the LFS Dev's would do promo video's VERY prior to any update, just to keep people interested, and give us heads up. Cause you all know, Codemasters do it, ISI does it, EA and a lot of others to alpha, beta, etc. video's and show us what their up to.

So this would mean, LFS is one of the few who doesn't show ANYTHING at all.

Like yes we had a VWS vid, but thats already from the stone age, and not actual anymore!


I think Vic should make some video's about the new cars and track/tracks.

From memory - Scawen is full time, LFS-only, Victor is full time (although has a few other projects on the side) and Eric is actually a dolphin (or something like that).

Quote from Guthix :

After doing some maths and stuff, i figured that if there's sold 5k or more S2 Licences the devs have made roughly 5 million NOK (Norwegian Krone)

In 2005 there were 10-20k S2 licenses sold, and 10k S1's sold...

That works out to ~£480k.

But remember, a 3 way split (which I doubt happens but still) over 8 years brings that down to £20kpa. Plus, Scawen's said in the past that they only actually "get" ~50% as profit. Plus, remember that not only is Scawen living of this, but also his wife (who now works on LFS full time) and supporting a child as well...

(yes, I know the figures I've quoted are now 6 years old, but even if you were to double it, it still doesn't make them millionaires - even if you were triple the license sales that would still only put them a little above the UK average wage)

Quote from Intrepid :

Firstly - it's really none of your business.
Secondly - it's really none of your business.
Thirdly - How many businesses do you walk into and start to nag the owners about how much profit they are/aren't making and how they should run their business?

I was nagging Microsoft too C:

No.

But really. Damnit, was just for fun though
Y u rage over it ?

Quote from Jakg :

From memory - Scawen is full time, LFS-only, Victor is full time (although has a few other projects on the side) and Eric is actually a dolphin (or something like that).

In 2005 there were 10-20k S2 licenses sold, and 10k S1's sold...

That works out to ~£480k.

But remember, a 3 way split (which I doubt happens but still) over 8 years brings that down to £20kpa. Plus, Scawen's said in the past that they only actually "get" ~50% as profit. Plus, remember that not only is Scawen living of this, but also his wife (who now works on LFS full time) and supporting a child as well...

(yes, I know the figures I've quoted are now 6 years old, but even if you were to double it, it still doesn't make them millionaires - even if you were triple the license sales that would still only put them a little above the UK average wage)

True, when thinking of it i realize that it was like, a stupid thread
But anyways, over all them years it wouldn't be that much money, yet, three years?

Doesn't matter anyways, i was more like wondering and it was kinda late when i started the thread so

Quote from Guthix :

I was nagging Microsoft too C:

No.

But really. Damnit, was just for fun though
Y u rage over it ?

Because I know how bloody frustrating it is for other people to tell you how to run your business when you've neither invited or asked for 'advice'.

Never meant to "control" their business, just said C: