Uk = huge offer of cars, to much actually...
not really, its getting quite hard to get what i want these days... due to scrappage schemes and such, so many good cars won't live past 15 years thats its " now or never " if you want a good car for decent money, otherwise its going to be scrapped soon ( though i know the scheme is over, renault are still doing decent deals as are other brands, shifting recession bangers...
)well, here in brazil the situation is even worse...
for example:
Lancer 2010 in UK = £22,995.00
Lancer 2010 in Brazil = R$ 173,695.00, that is +- £62,256.00 (yes, almost 3x the price)
BMW M3 2005 in UK = £15,995.00
BMW M3 2004 in Brazil = R$ 128,533.00 that is +- £46,069.00 (more close to 3x the price, and one year older!)
for example:
Lancer 2010 in UK = £22,995.00
Lancer 2010 in Brazil = R$ 173,695.00, that is +- £62,256.00 (yes, almost 3x the price)
BMW M3 2005 in UK = £15,995.00
BMW M3 2004 in Brazil = R$ 128,533.00 that is +- £46,069.00 (more close to 3x the price, and one year older!)
For new car prices, don't look at the UK, look at the US!
Second hand prices the UK is quite good though...
Second hand prices the UK is quite good though...
That's terrible. Why does a Mitsubishi cost more than a BMW? Whats the used car market like?
Because of the year, BMW is 6 years older, and to maintain a car like a M3 in here, is just too hard, any part that you need to change, will be extremelly expensive, trust me, the price is so right that you just couldn't imagine...
this is a car that cost R$40,000.00, or £14,336.00 here in brasil, it's almost the same price of a 2005 M3 in UK...
and it has a 3 cilinders 1.3 engine with 108hp, the interior is just hard and noisy plastic, it's just awful!
this is a car that cost R$40,000.00, or £14,336.00 here in brasil, it's almost the same price of a 2005 M3 in UK...
and it has a 3 cilinders 1.3 engine with 108hp, the interior is just hard and noisy plastic, it's just awful!
BMWs have horrid reliability.
thats why they never hold there value.
thats why they never hold there value.
Lolwut?
Tell that to my mate driving a 300000km+ E36 325 Coupe as a Nordschleife touristdrive car, which he drives to the Nordschleife and back (that's 400km) on it's own wheels with no hassle at all.
It still works and has a pretty solid reliability despite it's age and the kilometres on the clock.
And BMWs clocking 200000+km aren't that rare around here.
IMO BMWs are very reliable, they last for ages, but engine performance decreases like hell.
ive seen double that, namely on e30/early e36 where it Was a cheap engine swap if the engine ever went for example ( if you know you're cars, maintenance was and is cheaper ) But since many of the " cheap " classic are getting... classic... Our markets kinda fcuked with a 92 e36 ( just a reshell, still has e30 running gear ) gets roughly 1000 euros tops, a 91 with just a different body goes for upto 2.5....
Madness. Absolute madness.
My 1987 e30 320i's engine performance never decreased. It was maintained very well, so it was still as fast as when it was new.
The same applies to my 1995 518i (M43 y0) which is still as fast as it was 16 years ago.
The 320i had done about 150000km and my 518i's odometer displays 319800 atm.
Dyno sheet? Because my experience is exactly the other awy around.. 
I don't have a dyno sheet, but I meisured acceleration times. My e30 went from 0 to 160km/h in 25,2 seconds and it took the e34 31,7 seconds.
Mind you, the M20B20 engine in the e30 needs regular valve adjustment, or whatever it's called in English. Otherwise performance will suffer.
Mind you, the M20B20 engine in the e30 needs regular valve adjustment, or whatever it's called in English. Otherwise performance will suffer.
Depending on where the cars are assembled, the freight/import costs are slightly lower (BMW exports cars from Mexico, one of two countries - other being Argentina - whom Brazil has separate import deals with). The used car market is just as depressing. A 10-year old entry level 1.0l Fiat/VW/GM car will go for around R$10,000.00 (£3,560.00). Anything slightly more interesting will have a much higher price. '92 Escorts or '93 Kadetts are being sold for £3,000.00!
All due to 35% Import Taxes, 30% Industrial Product Taxes, another handful % in national taxes, etc.
Let's not forget that the Mitsubishi is 5-6 years newer :rolleyes:
6 secons faster than when it was new? Awesome
I guess that's because it was 160km/h according to the needle, but not real.Anyway I'm not saying your Bimmers are not performing well, but from my experience I would stay away from an old BMW even though I really like them.
Going back to the topic I've been researching a bit about this idea of importing cars from UK and Japan and I've learned very interesting things, like the shaken test, prices of fuel and insurance and so son.
It's about one second faster than when it was new. An indicated speed of 166km/h was equal to 160km/h meisured by GPS, so I tested up to 166km/h indicated, ofcourse. Silly :')
http://www.einszweidrei.de/bmw/320iok1987-1.htm
And I just remembered: the E30 320i has a small intake restrictor, which I took out as well. That improved performance at high revs quite a bit
Lots of BMW butthurts here, fact is if your not from Europe your going to find it difficult keeping a BMW without wanting to sledge hammer it.
When a car has a minor problem which involves replacing a part which can only be imported from a country on the other side of the planet it's going to end bad.
Either way it still won't touch a Toyota or Honda in long term reliability.
When a car has a minor problem which involves replacing a part which can only be imported from a country on the other side of the planet it's going to end bad.
Either way it still won't touch a Toyota or Honda in long term reliability.
Where is it?
I say that when you sell car on continent you have market of EU (which is 27 countries now) plus neighbours (like Russia) which are quite absorptive for used cars. There were times when used cars import was twice as big as new ones sell. And ie. RHD cars here in Poland have half price of their corresponding LHD ones.
Perhaps yours was already taken out. It's in the air filter box.
It's your problem you live on the wrong end of the world. Don't blame BMW for that...
They're still reliable, except if you keep on abusing them without any maintenance...That's exactly the same with JDM cars here, few of my friends owns S13 & S14 - if something goes wrong, they need to wait about 1-2 months when parts will be delivered from Japan or smth
Why are cars so cheap in UK?
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