Hey all, you folks know a lot more than I do about computers, so help me chose which compromise to go with...
First to get out of the way because this seems to be the suggestion with everyone, I am looking for a laptop. There's 4 of us living in a very small house (not your typical rich McMansion living American here that seems to be overabundant on the internet). I have no where to put a desktop. The old one was on a desk in the cold storage basement. Getting it out of the basement to be usable in the winter. The only suggestion I've gotten elsewhere is to get a desktop. I swear everyone in the world is a car salesman twisting around what you are looking for to something completely different. Anyways....
I am looking for just a simple laptop. I don't game. Main purpose is just for paying the bills online. Close secondary purpose would be playing around with photography with very old versions of Photoshop and Lightroom. Anything else it might be used for is pretty unimportant.
I have an eye on a few that I'll list below. They each have a compromise to go with. I am coming from a 2005 (yes, still the same off-the-shelf PC that I started and struggled playing LFS with) running XP that finally took a dump over Christmas. At work, just a week ago we upgraded from XP to Win7, so I am brand new to Win7. Playing around in the stores with 8.1 I really don't want that garbage at all. That said, the Op. system will be a compromise with some of the listed below. Budget is, at the most expensive, $600 is really pushing it (have another cheaper and simpler machine to buy for the kids.) Graphics will be Intel HD4400. Nothing in my price range I can find that would have a decent graphics card. Not looking to game, so not a big deal to me. Hard drives don't matter either. They are all plenty big enough to go along with 2 external drives I'll make out of the drives from the old computer.
HP 350 G1 listed as a business notebook (perhaps not as much bloatware on this?) This is the one I've got my eye on the most.
$600
i5 4200U 1.8GHz
8 Gb RAM
15.6 inch display
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
HP Pavilion 17-f065US
$600
i3 4030U 1.9 GHz
6 Gb RAM
17.3 inch display
Windows 8.1
HP Pavilion 15-p064US
$570
i3 4030U 1.9 GHz
12 Gb RAM
15.6 inch display
Windows 8.1 64 bit
Lenovo G50
$550
i7 4510U 2.0 GHz
8GB RAM
15.6 inch display
Windows 8.1
So, you can see I have a choice of only 1 Windows 7 machine available that I've found in my budget. Everything else looks to be a bit better in spec with the processor at least with the GHz speed but would be Windows 8.1.
I know nothing about processors these days other than common sense tells me i3<i5<i7, but the GHz speed specs don't tell me that. AMD seems to be out of reach. Seems AMD processors are typicallly paired up with better specs on other stuff (graphics for instance) putting it out of my budget.
Can you give me a reason to go with a Win 8.1 machine? If you can give me a good reason to forgo Windows 7, the Lenovo i7 machine looks to be the one to go for.
First to get out of the way because this seems to be the suggestion with everyone, I am looking for a laptop. There's 4 of us living in a very small house (not your typical rich McMansion living American here that seems to be overabundant on the internet). I have no where to put a desktop. The old one was on a desk in the cold storage basement. Getting it out of the basement to be usable in the winter. The only suggestion I've gotten elsewhere is to get a desktop. I swear everyone in the world is a car salesman twisting around what you are looking for to something completely different. Anyways....
I am looking for just a simple laptop. I don't game. Main purpose is just for paying the bills online. Close secondary purpose would be playing around with photography with very old versions of Photoshop and Lightroom. Anything else it might be used for is pretty unimportant.
I have an eye on a few that I'll list below. They each have a compromise to go with. I am coming from a 2005 (yes, still the same off-the-shelf PC that I started and struggled playing LFS with) running XP that finally took a dump over Christmas. At work, just a week ago we upgraded from XP to Win7, so I am brand new to Win7. Playing around in the stores with 8.1 I really don't want that garbage at all. That said, the Op. system will be a compromise with some of the listed below. Budget is, at the most expensive, $600 is really pushing it (have another cheaper and simpler machine to buy for the kids.) Graphics will be Intel HD4400. Nothing in my price range I can find that would have a decent graphics card. Not looking to game, so not a big deal to me. Hard drives don't matter either. They are all plenty big enough to go along with 2 external drives I'll make out of the drives from the old computer.
HP 350 G1 listed as a business notebook (perhaps not as much bloatware on this?) This is the one I've got my eye on the most.
$600
i5 4200U 1.8GHz
8 Gb RAM
15.6 inch display
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
HP Pavilion 17-f065US
$600
i3 4030U 1.9 GHz
6 Gb RAM
17.3 inch display
Windows 8.1
HP Pavilion 15-p064US
$570
i3 4030U 1.9 GHz
12 Gb RAM
15.6 inch display
Windows 8.1 64 bit
Lenovo G50
$550
i7 4510U 2.0 GHz
8GB RAM
15.6 inch display
Windows 8.1
So, you can see I have a choice of only 1 Windows 7 machine available that I've found in my budget. Everything else looks to be a bit better in spec with the processor at least with the GHz speed but would be Windows 8.1.
I know nothing about processors these days other than common sense tells me i3<i5<i7, but the GHz speed specs don't tell me that. AMD seems to be out of reach. Seems AMD processors are typicallly paired up with better specs on other stuff (graphics for instance) putting it out of my budget.
Can you give me a reason to go with a Win 8.1 machine? If you can give me a good reason to forgo Windows 7, the Lenovo i7 machine looks to be the one to go for.