Quote from Racer X NZ :That explains all the inane braindead posts here !!!!!
See above.......

I am still waiting for your definition of sanity when calling Russia's seizure of its neighbours' territories as "aggression on Russia".

I am really interested because as I know (post)soviets have quite opposite definition of sanity than western culture.
I was on one training to be certified on safety issues. Safety - that included situation threatening with injury or death.
To got certified you have to obey and loose your self-preservance instinct (which can lead to injuries or destroying machine operated).
I didn't obey, didn't get injured or machine destroyed - and got called 'insane'.
So I know (post)soviets have different definition of sanity.

Now... what's your definition?
Quote from dfgjkl :ah haha who needs this desert full of immigrants?this continent that u called USofA slowly dying,you has nothin that soviet interest it in and never has.All resources on the other side of the globe.
Wink

Oh I dunno. I never hear of American Gangsters stealing Russian Credit Card numbers.....
Not through here.....
Our AKs are better than yours. So's our Vodka.
AND our cars..... And that's sad when an American can claim that their cars are better than someone else's.
I used to work in the environmental remediation field. Know what that is? A garbage man for Radioactive and biological waste. I got to help get rid of some of the byproducts from some of those nukes y'all were pointing at us. No not the actual missile. Mostly the stuff in the silos where the warheads that were leaking got contaminated. Good thing you didn't need to launch them. And a good thing people from that dying continent came in and cleaned that up for you too. Yeah. Talk about a cluster F^^^ mess. That's probably why we're dying. You welcome bro.
And don't be so smug about that space station either. Admit it. You only let us up there so we can fix it for you. The only reason we haven't got one ourselves yet is cause NASA is trying to determine the amount of illegal aliens it would take to build it and design a truck fast enough to take them up there.

Yeah... if Russians are so smart, why do they spell USSR CCCP? And who the hell taught y'all to spell RUSSIA as USSR? A person with dyslexia?
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Quote from dfgjkl :Thats what i sayid is f**d up,clean up your mess in first place

Just pliiiz... don't clean up your or anybody's mess outside your country, OK?
Because 'vsyo v paryadke' means 'Everything Is Not OK', all right?
'Mess' means free market competition.
'V paryadke' means totalitarism, bribe system, state driven capitalism - no free market competition.

Every Russia's neighbour needs more 'mess' than 'v paryadke'.
Strange ?, no comments on;

"Mikheil Saakashvili, ex-leader of the Revolution of the Roses in Georgia and ex-president of this very poor but beautiful country, was until not long ago having a hard time finding the proper refuge for himself.

Last time he saw the blue skies of Georgia was in 2013, because in his own state he is a wanted man, charged with corruption, abuse of power, violent crackdown on political protesters and other crimes that could put him in jail for at least 11 years. Among less significant charges: Use of public money to pay for his Botox injections and hair removal, hotel and flight expenses for his personal stylist and two fashion models, airfare and hotel bills of the American massage therapist (Mr. Saakashvili’s Dutch wife didn’t mind the €2,000 ‘bite massage’ he was given at the expense of Georgian taxpayers).

Mr. Saakashvili, a staunch supporter of the Bush administration, spent last year in the U.S.,"

Read more at http://observer.com/2015/02/georgia-president-who-ate-his-tie-advises-ukrainians-how-to-capture-all-of-russia/#ixzz3S3yFY89j


Oh right, the 'Russian Invasion' stuff again is far more relevant to you, I wonder why ?.......

This lot is ALL just from the last week.

In his best attempt to impersonate war crazed Senator John McCain, Sen. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma released photographic proof of Russian solders in Ukraine in order to push forward his bill to provide U.S. arms to Ukraine. Or so he thought…
http://sgtreport.com/2015/02/in-thirst-for-war-sen-inhofe-releases-fake-photos-of-russian-troops-in-ukraine/

NO RUSSIAN TROOPS HAVE INVADED UKRAINE!
1. A Ukrainian Major: No Russian troops have invaded Ukraine. Ukrainian Major and military expert Oleksandr Taran who's been on the "enemy" territory and drove about 300km in current conflict zones says that he did see Cossacks and volunteers that came from Russia fighting on the militia's side but didn't see any regular Russian military units. He also says that their government and security services act like terrorists.
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b74_1424076268#6aVu5oAiQEzOFm5J.99

They're not even trying to be clever anymore.

Ukrainian officials (proven liars and fabricators) provided the Armed Services Committee in December with photos "proving" that Russia was in the middle of a full scale invasion of Ukraine.

Senator Inhofe was given the task of releasing the photos...

Timed to encourage support for arming Ukraine and increased aggressiveness towards Russia, the photos were a hit with the hawks and those wanting to invade Russia (John McCain) and they have been used to convince other members of our government to back more aggressive and military options towards Russia and the Ukrainian East.

There's a problem though...

The photos are fake. Or enough of them are to cast some very serious doubt on the rest. All that have been checked have turned out to be photoshopped photos from other places.
http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/read.php?16,1022947,1023202

None of this involves the 'TRAVEL DOCUMENTS' which can't be shown, etcc etc, etc.

You want to know how you can tell Russia really has invaded ?, They occupy Kiev inside 2 days.

Let us know when that happens.......

Yawn, one year later, still waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the meantime, here's some of your 'Euro Midden' 'news'.

Russian forces invading and bombing Warsaw, the Baltic States, Berlin, London, planning to reach Washington DC – this is the Sunday roundup show of Russia’s TV5. This visualized invasion of European countries is a reaction to the Polish foreign minister Grzegorz Schetyna commenting on Polish President Borysław Komorowski’s initiative to hold ceremonies marking the ending of WWII on Poland’s Westerplatte, which was attacked on 1 September 1939, instead of Moscow:

A militarized offensive on the EU and US is becoming mainstream in the Russian internal narrative. It is part of a warmongering propaganda narrative that creates the image of an external enemy. In Putin’s own words from 27 December 2014, NATO and the West are Russia’s greatest enemies towards which Russia is ready to use precision weapons, landing in one pot with North Korea which also regularly militarily threatens the US. Kremlin-spun propaganda campaigns bring this thesis home to the Russian population.
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/02/13/russian-war-propaganda-threatens-invade-warsaw-berlin-london-2015/

Just love the propoganda. It makes Fox look like an actual real news source Smile
I'm surprised that more of you arn't posting this 'knowledge' here. It's clearly driving your discussion points Smile

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e5a_1424082531
Check the 'People there' followed by the Ukraine Pres, and yes, this is the same event.

And this is really funny !
http://russia-insider.com/ru/tv_media_watch/2015/02/17/3576
In one more incredibly biased TV report from the Donetsk airport, a BBC journalist started accusing Donetsk self defense forces of breaking the ceasefire while almost getting killed by a Ukrainian "peace-loving" sticking-to-ceasefire shell.

First, Ian Pannell, international BBC corespondent, implicitly accuses rebels of a "scorched earth policy".

Than in an almost surreal moment while saying that artillery fire "appears" to be mostly "outgoing", there's a clear and visible evidence of incoming Ukrainian fire, resulting in an dangerous explosion extremely close to and directly behind him.

Fortunately enough "outgoing fire" hasn't landed on his thick head.

The shells at 1:03, 1:14 and 1:24 are most definitely incoming shots since one can hear the "sizzle sound".

It is even more unbelievable that only moments after surviving Ukrainian shelling, the BBC reporter, instead of stating the obvious—that they were almost killed by Ukrainian shelling—has the audacity to state ludicrous claims that rebels are shelling themselves; thus implicitly backing up Ukrainian point of view.

So it seems that "Russian terrorists" are still shelling themselves? We remember Lugansk and pro-Ukrainian media claims that a "terrorist missile" hit an air-conditioner in the administration building, thus killing themselves; or the Odessa massacre where "Russian terrorists" were throwing Molotov cocktails from the rooftop and burned themselves alive.

To certain extent, we feel compassion with BBC employees since they need to stick to the official Westminster propaganda line ("It's always Russia's fault") or risk being demoted or losing their jobs.

If you want to go up the career ladder, self-imposed censorship is a must for every journalist working in the Western mainstream media.



YAVORIV, Ukraine -- A Ukrainian soldier (right) briefs U.S. Army Reserve Officer Training Cadets participating in the Cultural Understanding and Language Proficiency program on training taking place at Exercise Rapid Trident 2013,



Still waiting for comments on this one Smile
Continued from above.........

".... because in his own state he is a wanted man, charged with corruption, abuse of power, violent crackdown on political protesters and other crimes that could put him in jail for at least 11 years.

Mr. Saakashvili, a staunch supporter of the Bush administration, spent last year in the U.S.

On February 13, Mikheil Saakashvili was appointed chairman of the Consulting International Council for the Reforms for the Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in his new homeland—Ukraine. (A disgusted Georgian Foreign Ministry summoned the Ukrainian ambassador and demanded an explanation.)

The newspapers say that his prime responsibility is going to be negotiations on the supply of U.S. arms to Ukraine.

Not long before that happy change of events took place, the ex-Georgian president went on Ukrainian television to give his first nugget of advice. With happy smiles and witty winks, he explained to the gloomy and suspicious talk show host of the TV-24 Channel his vision for the most urgent challenge the Ukrainians believe they are facing—how “Russian aggression against Ukraine” can be stopped."

Read more at http://observer.com/2015/02/georgia-president-who-ate-his-tie-advises-ukrainians-how-to-capture-all-of-russia/#ixzz3S3yFY89j
Comment on what?

You think the rebels construct their heavy artillery, tanks, ammunition and what else on their secret production location somewhere in the South east of the Ukraine. No point in discussing anything with you, you are so much living in your own Star Wars world that it's more beneficial to talk to a concrete wall.
Actually it's more a case of people not having any knowledge of history.
Ukraine had the 4th largest army in the world after the breakup of the USSR. Please actually learn about history before posting from a position of ignorance.
What made up this army ?
Answers on the back of a postcard please.......

Or check on Wikipedia, it may not be completely accurate but it will give you other sources to confirm this......
Russian Lt-General Alexander Lentsov himself is overseeing the take over of Debaltseve
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Alexander_Lentsov.JPG



http://asian-defence-news.blogspot.com/2015/02/russian-lt-general-alexander-lentsov-in.html

Next Novorussia city turned into ruins...
Poor Novorussians - Russia will not give them money because they don't have money (Transnistria is about to go bankrupt due to lack of financial aid from Russia).
Ukraine will not give them money because they don't want to.
They just will stay ruined because they got hijacked by some terrorist band of separatists.
And here's the real story, for F@^!$ sake try to actually research# the 'midden' you post !

MOSCOW. Dec 10 (Interfax-AVN) - Russia has dispatched a group of military specialists led by Lt. Gen. Alexander Lentsov to the Donetsk region at the request of the Ukrainian armed forces chief of staff, says Army Gen. Valery Gerasimov, the chief of staff of the Russian armed forces.

"Representatives of the Russian armed forces led by Lt. Gen. Alexander Lentsov have been sent to the community of Debaltseve in the Donetsk region at Ukrainian armed forces chief of staff Col. Gen. Viktor Muzhenko's request," Gerasimov said at a meeting with military attaches of a number of foreign countries on Wednesday.

"This mission has been tasked, together with the OSCE, with helping the conflicting parties, which are the Ukrainian forces and the local militia, to find compromise solutions on de-escalating the tension and withdrawing the troops from the contact line," he said.
http://www.interfax.com/newsinf.asp?id=558263
Via ap

And the date on this 'news' is 10 Dec 2014

So the above AndRand post is yet another 'Euro Midden' story

FYI, still waiting to a response on this#

".... because in his own state he is a wanted man, charged with corruption, abuse of power, violent crackdown on political protesters and other crimes that could put him in jail for at least 11 years.

Mr. Saakashvili, a staunch supporter of the Bush administration, spent last year in the U.S."

# Well that would involve honesty and integrity so I'm not holding my breath expecting anything like that, and until then, I'll just enjoying pointing out the lies !
That and laughing at people who still can't answer a post.........

And, for cargame, I'm not getting at you Smile, just giving you a meaningful answer to your question. That's where the weaponry is coming from, more info below.
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ukraine-worlds-4th-largest-arms-exporter-in-2012-according-to-sipri-321878.html?flavour=full
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/02/06/3620161/5-biggest-problems-sending-weapons-ukraine/

This statement (by US Senator John McCain) sums up whats going on,

In the most chilling and telling statement about the Ukraine War any US official has ever made, John McCain implicates the United States Government in the war crimes of Petro Poroshenko and the entire Ukrainian government. He does this by justifying Poroshenko’s use of banned weapons on civilians.
“I think that if we had provided them with the weapons they need, they wouldn’t have felt they had to use cluster bombs. So, it’s partially our fault,”
McCain, who is also the US Chairman of the Senate Committee on Armed Services, told Sputnik.
How does this implicate Barrack Obama and the United States Congress? If the United States is supplying support or weapons to a country they KNOW is willfully committing Crimes against Humanity in Donbass- I challenge you the reader to explain how the US Government is not responsible.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/euromaidan-one-year-later-crowd-funding-donbass-war-crimes.html
Quote from Racer X NZ :
So the above AndRand post is yet another 'Euro Midden' story

You know, I am not surprised you believe in EVERY story if signed "from Moscow".
This one is so stupid I am really amazed you were able to post it... Unbelievable Big grin Big grin Big grin
Ukraine asked Russian (???) general-lieutnant (???) to help (???) Novorussian separatists... (???) Do you even comprehend what you have posted???? Big grin :Big grin Big grin
BTW. the coverage was from destroyed Debaltseve.

Bet children in kindergarten would be smarter... Pick yourself here, really - original useful idiots... unbelievable... Big grin Big grin Big grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rMdC45S79uQ


Quote :Well that would involve honesty and integrity so I'm not holding my breath expecting anything like that, and until then, I'll just enjoying pointing out the lies !
That and laughing at people who still can't answer a post.

I am not really surprised.
Sakhashvili's successor is well know businessman, hard to tell, Georgian or Russian... Big company with Russia-Georgia businesses, in this region it is well known how strong ties (with Russia's secret police and intelligence) have to be to even run such business. Not only succesful.
First thing I would expect that Sakhashvili would be accused. BTW you don't need Russia-biased businessman for this. When previous government in Poland has been changed there were long list of very strong accusations. After more than 8 year of proceedings, none occurred to be true.
Not forgetting Ukraine's Yulia Timoshenko, former PM, who were put in jail without any trial by your hero - Yanukovych.
This is what you advocate here?
Quote from AndRand :
I am not really surprised.
Sakhashvili's successor is well know businessman, hard to tell, Georgian or Russian... Big company with Russia-Georgia businesses, in this region it is well known how strong ties (with Russia's secret police and intelligence) have to be to even run such business. Not only succesful.
First thing I would expect that Sakhashvili would be accused. BTW you don't need Russia-biased businessman for this. When previous government in Poland has been changed there were long list of very strong accusations. After more than 8 year of proceedings, none occurred to be true.
Not forgetting Ukraine's Yulia Timoshenko, former PM, who were put in jail without any trial by your hero - Yanukovych.
This is what you advocate here?

So the US is now supporting a Russian agent ?, Are you serious ?
So, are you saying the following ?

A Russian Secret agent becomes President of Georgia, commits crimes in Georgia (Stalins Birthplace) hides in the US and gets a job in the Ukraine, supported by the US ?, But secretly acting for the Russians....... And only you are aware of this information.

Well, that makes sense..........



More to come on Lt. Gen. Alexander Lentsov when I finish real work.

Update on Mr "I'm completely innocent, it's just the Russians, I was never there, It's my first day" etc.......

On 28 July 2014, criminal charges were filed by the Georgian prosecutor's office against the former President Mikheil Saakashvili over alleged "exceeding official powers" during the 2007 Georgian demonstrations as well as a police raid on and "seizure" of Imedi TV and other assets owned by the late tycoon Badri Patarkatsishvili. Saakashvili, then being in Hungary, responded by accusing the Georgian authorities of political score-settling and attempts at appeasing Russia.[47] The United States expressed concerns over the case and warned that "the legal system should not be used as a tool of political retribution".[48] The European Union stated that it took "note with concern" and it will "closely monitor these and other legal proceedings against members of the former government and current opposition in Georgia".[49]

On 2 August 2014, Tbilisi City Court ordered pre-trial detention in absentia for Saakashvili, as well as for the co-accused Zurab Adeishvili (chief prosecutor in 2007) and Davit Kezerashvili (defense minister in 2007), with a preliminary hearing appointed for September 2014.[50]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikheil_Saakashvili

But, according to 'AndRand' it's all just Russian propoganda and the Russians are guilty of everything, including killing Bambi's mother, and killing Kenny. YOU BASTARDS !


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Quote from Racer X NZ :
Quote from AndRand :
I am not really surprised.
Sakhashvili's successor is well know businessman, hard to tell, Georgian or Russian... Big company with Russia-Georgia businesses, in this region it is well known how strong ties (with Russia's secret police and intelligence) have to be to even run such business. Not only succesful.
First thing I would expect that Sakhashvili would be accused. BTW you don't need Russia-biased businessman for this. When previous government in Poland has been changed there were long list of very strong accusations. After more than 8 year of proceedings, none occurred to be true.
Not forgetting Ukraine's Yulia Timoshenko, former PM, who were put in jail without any trial by your hero - Yanukovych.
This is what you advocate here?

So the US is now supporting a Russian agent ?, Are you serious ?
So, are you saying the following ?

A Russian Secret agent becomes President of Georgia, commits crimes in Georgia (Stalins Birthplace) hides in the US and gets a job in the Ukraine, supported by the US ?, But secretly acting for the Russians....... And only you are aware of this information.

Well, that makes sense..........

Whta are you talking about?
Racer, tell me - what drugs do you use???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidzina_Ivanishvili
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Quote from dfgjkl :
Quote from dawesdust_12 :Don't you think that a video on Russian news could potentially be altered/faked to introduce bias into the Russian opinion of the situation?

sure it can.but not this case.

Ah, such great proof!

Because Russian journalism is the peak of honest and unbiased coverage.

That's why over the years, there's been at least 1 or 2 a year that resign because they feel their journalistic integrity is being crippled by the state dictating what and how things should be reported upon.

I guess you also like the North Korean and Chinese news too for their unbiased coverage.
http://kioski.yle.fi/omat/at-the-origins-of-russian-propaganda

Quote from Racer X NZ :
Do try doing some research and make intelligent comments here, cus all I'm currently seeing are payed shrills.........

Hollow rhetoric from what sounds like a teenager who's never known life under commies just a few decades ago. You really have no idea..

Quote from dfgjkl :ah haha who needs this desert full of immigrants?this continent that u called USofA slowly dying,you has nothin that soviet interest it in and never has.All resources on the other side of the globe.
Wink

The more things change....
Quote from dfgjkl :Thats what i sayid is f**d up,clean up your mess in first place.
We russians never spell ussr we say cccp-союз советских социалистических республик or in eng letters Union of Soviet Socialist Republics,You dont know that? or you show how u stupid?
Smile

cccp-союз советских социалистических республик

Dude.... You really need to fix that keyboard..
I'm guessing that since you didn't get the last joke you won't get this one either - huh comrade?

You should be nice to me. I'm one of the few Americans that understand Putin's point of view.
What would happen in the Ukraine if the Russians didn't get involved with the Crimeans and Russian separatists?
I'm thinking that since what was happening in the Ukraine (getting rid of one crook and replacing them with another one) was also creating a split along ethnic lines. LOL WHat is it with you white folk in Eastern Euroland? You ain't got any of us not and not so whites to shoot at so you start finding things amongst yourselves to hate? And it was heading that way fast.
And Vlad, The Godfather, Putin knew that eventually things would get to that point. It would be Yugoslavia all over again. And if that happened where would all the displaced Russians(?) from the Ukraine go? Sure some would go to L.A., but most would wind up in the Russian Federation as refugees. That wouldn't be good for their economy or their crime stats either. That and the inevitable resistance movements that would spring up on Russian soil that the Russian Gov - Putin's Mob - wouldn't be able to handle. And what would these resistance groups do to fund their operations? Sell dope to the locals. That or something like it.
And then they'd corrupt officials to look the other way while they did that and after a while, they'll forget about taking back the Ukraine and focus on making the money...eventually taking out each other and anyone stupid enough to get in the way.
You think Chechnya is bad? LOL let THAT happen. You Russians would forget all about those nutcases down there if all that were to happen. And I think that was a very real possibility of how thing's could've played out.
The whole Ukraine ordeal is actually a Lose lose deal for Putin. And I think that he thinks the actions he took was the lesser of two evils for him.

The thing I don't get in all this is The Crimeans. They had a shot of making their own destiny and they pissed that off joining the Russians. Now instead of Ukraine Thugs telling them what to do, it'll be the mob guys from Moscow telling them what to do. They may as well have joined IS
Quote from Breizh :http://kioski.yle.fi/omat/at-the-origins-of-russian-propaganda

Quote from Racer X NZ :
Do try doing some research and make intelligent comments here, cus all I'm currently seeing are payed shrills.........

Hollow rhetoric from what sounds like a teenager who's never known life under commies just a few decades ago. You really have no idea..

Quote from dfgjkl :ah haha who needs this desert full of immigrants?this continent that u called USofA slowly dying,you has nothin that soviet interest it in and never has.All resources on the other side of the globe.
Wink

The more things change....

LOL I noticed he left out "Imperialism" and "Capitalist pig".

I froze my nuts off in the Cold War. I remember the Duck and Cover drills in Grade school. Yeah, we really had those. What I really remember about communism are the Sandinista scumbags and what they did to a few people I know.
After the "war" ended, I got to know a few folks from the former Warsaw Pact countries and the Soviet Union. I like those people. They're cool with everybody - except themselves.
I never understood though why the new rift. I would think that Russia would've joined NATO by now. Especially looking at the way the country was headed during Yeltsin. And then Putin and Bush becoming Blood Brothers... What the hell happened?
To be perfectly anal, they weren't actually communists. That's semantics; yet the rest of it's the same.
You could go there, and see how a lot of what's reported by the "news media" - which is what the bulk of western people IE what the western electorate bases their votes on IE which way the wind blows for western govts to tack with - is not even wrong, because ultimately those people are human beings too.

And yet, despite those serious misconceptions, which obedient minions like asdasfsd over here will use against you like the well-trained sophists they are, the bottom line doesn't really change. Putin & co are thugs. And the bottom of the pyramid is no more defendable: when you have them following you around as soon as you enter the country, and you actually find them looking thru your sock drawer in the middle of the night in your hotel room... The propaganda just doesn't seem so compelling. Never mind when you see what it's like for the locals themselves.

That capital flight and general emigration ain't happening for no reason. And they can point at the failures of the USA and the West in general all they want. That's just truism. All countries are more or less that way, and all politicians are crooks. The truth of the pudding is in the eating. ASasdasdsfd and his colleagues just have no idea and ultimately IMHO that's one of the most tragic things.

They don't even know how wrong they are. Zombies.
Quote from Breizh :They don't even know how wrong they are. Zombies.

I hope I am not "they" Smile
Because even more - they think they are right because they now restore their world from CHAOS - that is free democracy and free market competition.

Thousands take part in 'Anti-Maidan' protest in Moscow against uprising in Ukraine
Protesters, including Cossacks, students and activists from Chechnya, waved flags and placards with slogans such as, “Russia’s enemies need a Maidan!” and, “We don’t need Western ideology and gay parades!”
Many wore black and orange striped St George’s ribbons, a symbol of military valour that has been adopted by the rebels in Ukraine. One woman in a fur coat had a handmade sign around here neck reading, “Putinism forever”.
Last year’s Maidan protests in Ukraine were an “embryo of Goebbels” organised by “fascists” in “a concentration of everything anti-Russian”, the crowd of 20,000 or more was told by speakers on a stage in Revolution Square, a few hundred yards from the Kremlin.
“Maidan is the smile of the American ambassador as he sits in his penthouse on Khreshchaytk, taking pleasure as he sees brother kill brother,” cried one orator, referring to Kiev’s main street. “Fifth columnists” in Russia who “visit the US embassy for instructions” also deserved to be harshly dealt with, he added.
The speakers encouraged the crowd to chant, “There will be no Maidan in Russia!” but the response was limp and many protesters reportedly dispersed quickly once the speeches were over, suggesting its organised nature.
The protest was held as Ukrainians met in Kiev for their own events to commemorate the culmination of the pro-Western uprising, which left more than 100 civilians and 18 policemen dead after snipers opened fire near the square a year ago last week.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11426775/Thousands-take-part-in-Anti-Maidan-protest-in-Moscow-against-uprising-in-Ukraine.html

...they shouted 'Maidan will not be forgotten nor forgiven'

...yup that is what they shouted... How Ukrainians dared to die from bullets!!!




"Ukraine's example has taught us a lot, and we won't allow a Maidan in our country," stated the organisers prior to the rally.
The crowd's fervour was obvious. One banner held by a female pensioner read "Putinism forever", while a group of Cossacks bore a placard: "The Maidan is a disease. We will treat it."
And another very large banner read: "Yankee go home and take the Maidan with you."
The Kiev uprising forced the Russian-backed president Viktor Yanukovych out of office last year.
Russia then annexed Crimea from Ukraine, and ever since has backed separatist rebels in the east of the country – although the Russian government denies this.
Nikolai Starikov, one of the Anti-Maidan movement's leaders, stated that the march is the movement's first big rally and that it is aimed at deterring the pro-Western opposition from plotting a similar coup in Russia.
"Don't even try. Don't make any attempts to rock the boat in Russia," he said during TV coverage.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/tens-thousands-russians-join-moscow-anti-maidan-against-ukraine-uprising-1488955

NO COMPETITION, NO OPPOSITION - this is what they believe.
Quote from Breizh :To be perfectly anal, they weren't actually communists. That's semantics; yet the rest of it's the same.
You could go there, and see how a lot of what's reported by the "news media" - which is what the bulk of western people IE what the western electorate bases their votes on IE which way the wind blows for western govts to tack with - is not even wrong, because ultimately those people are human beings too.

And yet, despite those serious misconceptions, which obedient minions like asdasfsd over here will use against you like the well-trained sophists they are, the bottom line doesn't really change. Putin & co are thugs. And the bottom of the pyramid is no more defendable: when you have them following you around as soon as you enter the country, and you actually find them looking thru your sock drawer in the middle of the night in your hotel room... The propaganda just doesn't seem so compelling. Never mind when you see what it's like for the locals themselves.

That capital flight and general emigration ain't happening for no reason. And they can point at the failures of the USA and the West in general all they want. That's just truism. All countries are more or less that way, and all politicians are crooks. The truth of the pudding is in the eating. ASasdasdsfd and his colleagues just have no idea and ultimately IMHO that's one of the most tragic things.

They don't even know how wrong they are. Zombies.

To be perfectly anal, they weren't actually communists. That's semantics; yet the rest of it's the same.
Who are they? The current people in charge of things in Russia? Or Ortega and his bunch?


"That capital flight and general emigration ain't happening for no reason."
Uh yeah.... that's how I've met Russians and Estonians and Georgians and... you get the idea.... LOL A lot in Las Vegas.

they can point at the failures of the USA...
Yeah. I can do that all day long all by myself. It's funny when the greasy little foreign kids do it like they have a clue about what's really going on here.
Like I said, I could go on for days about my own country. The real complaint that bothers me at the moment is Obama dragging his feet on IS. I don't care what anyone thinks about whatever conspiracy what they think about Islam or what they think about the West. These people need to be taken out of the picture.
We need to give King Hussein whatever he thinks he needs to wipe these psychos out.
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Quote from dfgjkl :what,oil in Ukraine?look in mirror and you see an idiot.

If you take a selfie, we may see an idiot.
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Russians only drink vodka.
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Quote from dfgjkl :
now its terrackt has bin in Kharkiv,gues who going to blame who Frown

guess who's rally?

Sorry to say dfglkjfier, but in my opinion Russia has just said farewell! to
individualism,
human rights,
freedom of expression,
democracy,
free market competition
And not for couple of years. More like centuries, after short, ~10 years experiment in its hundreds years despotic rule history.
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All gone to shit in Ukraina, what now?
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