No, I snipped the rest of your post because it was irrelevant to the part I was replying to, and unrelated in any meaningful way to the part I quoted.
Anyway...
No, I snipped the rest of your post because it was irrelevant to the part I was replying to, and unrelated in any meaningful way to the part I quoted.
Anyway...
Anyway...why ignore the rest of the post where i ask u why every F1 driver should think they are the best in the world?
Especially new guys who have no experience in these cars ,and who know they cant beat Alsonso,Schumi,Kimi if they were in equal cars.
It's easy to quote parts of posts and ignore parts that are inconvenient to u. But explaining why u think that every F1 driver would think he is the best driver in the world seems to be alot harder.
Especially new guys who have no experience in these cars ,and who know they cant beat Alsonso,Schumi,Kimi if they were in equal cars.
It's easy to quote parts of posts and ignore parts that are inconvenient to u. But explaining why u think that every F1 driver would think he is the best driver in the world seems to be alot harder.
Because I'm not duty-bound to answer every question you ask me.
I would imagine that F1 drivers - all of them - have a pretty strong self-belief. I bet even retired drivers like Martin Brundle still think they could compete with the current grid if they were given the chance. Whether it's realistic to think that or not, it wouldn't surprise me if 90% of the drivers in F1 believe they are - or can be - the best.
Hopefully that's a suitable answer for you and we can let this go now.
True ,u arent duty-bound to answer me.
But i dont think it is an example of politeness to quote someone, give another opinion and then ignore that same person when he asks if u could elaborate on that.
But everyone has other standards i guess, so i wont go on about it. :Handshake
But i dont think it is an example of politeness to quote someone, give another opinion and then ignore that same person when he asks if u could elaborate on that.
But everyone has other standards i guess, so i wont go on about it. :Handshake
Are you 2 really arguing over quotes.
OK Kev chopped a bit of your post off I don't understand the fuss.
OK Kev chopped a bit of your post off I don't understand the fuss.
Maybe because the championship is actually coming to an end and Fisi stands no chance in winning it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... ;mode=related&search=
That was just insulting and with so little reason to do it. The championship wasn't exactly close
illepallI've seen Alonso drive live many a time and watched him drive road cars. His style and initial aggression on corner entry is brilliant to watch and as I've stated I couldn't never drive with so much understeer.
Doesn't work in extreme conditions what a load of Bull, really this is funny to read, do you really claim to watch the sport called Formula One? Or do you own some rose (Schumacher coloured?) tinted glasses :rolleyes:
You've yet to produce sufficient evidence towards your claims and please oh please how can you claim someone who has made it to F1, won races, taken pole positions and is the youngest to win the WDC in a car built with a budget that's pocket money to Ferraris and McLarens.
Again Alonso made one set of tyres last whole GPs last year in extreme hot conditions to cool conditions and has had no problems this year. Renault as a team have suffered tyre problems but both drivers suffered the same fate, or does Alonso's style rub off on Fisi?
He was mighty at Hungary in the extreme conditions (guess you refuse to view the video I posted of that? Too much irony in watching the so called `sux` driver pass your hero?) and passed your good mate Schumacher around the outside, then had to do so again when he went to lap him as the dirty unsporting driver was defending under the waved blue flags.
Then we move to China, Alonso dominated in the wet conditions (6 tenths quicker in qualifying than 2nd place man in the same car) at the start. He dominated in the tricky drying conditions where one mistake would drag you right off the road, he set 15-20 laps with nearly a fastest lap in each one if not at least a fastest sector.
Then onto the start of his career in Mindardi where he was pretty damn impressive.
This is also why you should source your F1 news from reliable sources :rolleyes:
Official Pre race conference
Q: (Ed Gorman - The Times) Fernando, do you still believe that there are people within the Renault Formula One team who don’t want you to win the drivers’ championship?
FA: All the team, all the people, are really focused for the championship and anyway we have been leading both championships all season nearly and now the last two races all the people is motivated and the atmosphere inside the team is just super and it’s the last two races of me in the team as well and every single person in the team is just focused on the championship.
Q: (Ed Gorman - The Times) But you did say, or appeared to say, exactly that in China - that there were people in the team who you believed did not want you to win the drivers’ championship, but that they do want to win the Constructors’…
FA: No, not… For sure, for the team, (it) is more important the constructors, but they want to win them both. For sure…
Keiran
When exactly was MSC lapped at Hungary? If my memory serves me correctly, the safety car saved him from being lapped.
I don't doubt that Alonso was brillant in the beginning stages of the race, I simply have no memory of him lapping MSC in that race.
So you are rather lied to than being openly told what game is played? (and see the comments I wrote on this in a different thread: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=230921#post230921)
On the topic of Alonso insulting his team: The things he tells the media in Spain and then what he says on race weekends seem to differ quite a bit all the time. This started with "MS is the most unsporting guy in history", of which a radio transcript does exist and then he goes on "nonono, I was misunderstood, I said Zidane was the better sportsman" and now the sabotage accusations which all of a sudden don't exist anymore. Either Spanish media always and no matter who they are invent interviews with him or he should choose his interview partners more carefully or he simply speaks, as the native American would say, with two tungs. I suspect the latter.
Sources: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/54924
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/54926
Oh, and just why did you leave out the first sentence in his answer? His answer starts with "I think it's a difficult question" which tells more than just one story about his attitude. And just for the reason you want sources, here you get one as well, the official transcript of the press conference: http://www.formula1.com/race/news/5068/768.html
Wasn't it him, who took first turn a "bit" wide? And who was overtaken by MS in great manner? Sure, he was fast in the beginning, but as said by his chief technician, it was him, who saw his worn down front left tire and wanted new ones.
Oh, and did I say, MS is my hero? never did say that. The difference between you and me keiran is easy: You're an Alonso fanboy, I am not a MS fanboy.
With risk of being called ageist - you also have 13 years of difference. Weren't you fanatized easily or took remarks about an "idol" a little personally when you were 17?
That was from the media.
I quoted parts relevant to what I was talking about. You can clearly see Alonso is frustrated and it shows when he says something like "I don't know, I don't know."
From the pre race conference you can see how easily it would be to take any of his sayings out of context and put it under a header, "Alonso slams team over title sabotage", which is not what he is doing at all.
Lied to? Renault didn't drive side by side to block the track. Fisi overtook him and let Alonso back through again. Eventually Fisi overtook him once and for all. I can bet the team didn't have to say anything to Fisi over the radio, he most likely did it with the knowledge he was given before the race and used his head, who is fighting for the title? From all the years of team play by Ferrari I'm pretty sure they'd have continued to make Massa hold up the Renaults and not run off while Schumacher was struggling.
Fact is Ferrari always let Schumacher win when there was no need, the ironic part of the Austria GP is when they radio Rubens and say "for the championship" but the championship wasn't even close. Had Ferrari been in the position the Renault were in at Sepang I'm confident they'd have told Massa to let Schumacher win for the `championship`, Renault let there two drivers battle it out and Fisi won.
The Schumacher is the most unsporting driver article contradicted it's self hugely, so me thinks some reporter decided to stick two interviews together:
Took the first turn wide? At Hungary? Schumacher started in front of Alonso at Hungary. In China no one overtook Alonso upto his first stop... Really got no idea what your on about
Who said it wasn't him who asked for the new tyres? Your changing your tune totally, from claiming Alonso is a tyre destroyer and not providing any strong argument than simply he seemingly `sux`. Yet if he `sux` then all the drivers he has beaten, which is all of them `sux` as well.
Alonso fanboy?
I don't support the guy but I admire what he has achieved at such a young age and I think his driving style is awesome in its own right. Not a Schumacher fanboy? So far you've been full of too much BS and not enough facts to support saying the youngest World Champion and the only one bringing the fight to Schumacher, `sux`. That shows me who the fanboy is when your saying his nearest competitor `sux` :rolleyes: As much as I don't like Schumacher I'd never say he `sux` as that is simply utter rubbish. I don't think any of the drivers on that grid `sux` they've all had to climb various ladders to get there and did so on merit.
Right. Thats why Fisi finished ahead of Alonso and wasn't told to "save the engine". Come on, you are making it yourself way too easy.
You are talking about Sepang, right?
illepallVery rarely does a race these days, even when they didn't have to make an engine last the whole race do they push to the end. Fisi did everything right and won the race, where's the point in pushing your two cars to the end? It's hardly team orders, and it's child play to the sort of orders Ferrari have done and will do if it takes that approach to win the championship.
Really can't see how this can even be compared to the way Ferrari have fixed things and thus Mr Brawn should really shut his mouch about China. Driving side by side to block? Yea right, the only hint of Fisi helping Alonso was when he let him re-take the position on the exit. Then when he made it easy for Alonso to pass down the back straight.
Reading Brawns comments you'd have thought Renault were driving side by side the whole lap blocking the track
illepallKeiran
Whoops, didn't see you changed from Shanghai to Sepang. Damn Tilke circuits, not only do they look alike, they also start with the same first letter. 
I was in fact thinking you were still talking about Shanghai and using that line in a sarcastic way. I still stand with my opinion though, that I'd rather have open team orders than the "save the engine" "brake problem" "tire issue" crap that goes on nowadays.
I was in fact thinking you were still talking about Shanghai and using that line in a sarcastic way. I still stand with my opinion though, that I'd rather have open team orders than the "save the engine" "brake problem" "tire issue" crap that goes on nowadays.
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