Testing was cancelled because the hairpin was too tight! look at it!!!!!!!!!
Also look how narrow the track is! The racing will be crap (from an overtaking point of view)! I can see there being alot of action!*

*action = crashes

loool they must of been tight for space, reminds me of South City

great pic though

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A1GP is so much like LFS

They obviously also have handbrakes in those single-seaters too.

macau is tighter,what's the problem?

That you can't make a pass there, because if you take the inside lane the turning radius of the car isn't small enough!


Vain

Nahh, a bit of power-oversteer and that hairpin is piece of cake

So there's the handbrake suddenly becomes quite useful

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That you can't make a pass there, because if you take the inside lane the turning radius of the car isn't small enough!


Vain

Then make it all time yellow flag so no one passes.

Take a closer look ... they are driving with intermediate, crappy track

Obviously 500 hp isn't enough to force the car turn that corner... And these doesn't even have TC.

Quote from deggis :

Obviously 500 hp isn't enough to force the car turn that corner... And these doesn't even have TC.

actually thats what they had to do!! lol!

its not that they cant pass, it's that they can't turn the corner no matter what line they take! unless the step the back of the car out to turn it.
the track is being adjusted and practice will resume tomorrow morning.

haha you would a handbrake to get around that

Is it really tighter than Grand Hotel?

Don't know what the designers had been smoking, that's just hilarious in it's own way

SIX BLOODY LANES and they STILL can't take it? Geez, I can turn a mid sized SUV around that with 2/3rds the width!

The sad truth is that circuit racing and rallying are such polar opposites when it comes to driving skill. In rallying it's more like 80% car control and 20% line, and immense car control by itself is necessary to run really good lines in itself. Not to mention the need to adapt to changing surfaces. Circuit racing is the exact opposite, more about memorizing lines, brake and turn in points.

A bit of controlled powerdrift and they're already complaining? Ridiculous. If they really don't have that kind of technique, some extra steering lock would have done it, though it's not as fast as a well controlled powerdrift as it rotates the car more quickly and gets it on the fast out line earlier.

No, it's not the circuit that's the joke. It's either the drivers or the cars.

Every post you make you make yourself look a little bit more stupid. Shame.

If you really think circuit drivers are complete muppets, then how come you haven't won every single championship ever? And i've never heard of you pushing Markko Martin for a rally win either.

Have you ever actually slid an A1GP on the power? No, I didn't think so, so perhaps if you engaged your brain before typing then I wouldn't need to point it out to you all the time.

Well the steering lock is nowhere near a normal road car of a rally car. Can you imagine how dangerous it would be in a race if someone spun in that turn? 20 odd cars all taking the same line, power sliding round a turn...it would be a mass pile up.

Anyway thats no problem, they moved the turn further up so it could be much wider, and they have tagged on an extra hour practice. At least they found a problem and fixed it so everyone could race, unlike F1.

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SIX BLOODY LANES and they STILL can't take it? Geez, I can turn a mid sized SUV around that with 2/3rds the width!

i cant even begin to think of a reply for your TOTALLY uneducated post. illepall
Almost makes me laugh. Ha!

i wish a1gp was shown on some normal bloody channels, sky are getting beyond a joke for snapping everything half decent up i suppose i could proxy and watch it on the site, but its not the same

Doesn't look too tight to be able to set a car to get round, looks no tighter than the Mallory Harpin to me. Just typical racing teams whinging because they don't get a beautifully smooth constant radius slightly cambered wide corner with a few miles of tarmac run off.

@Jamexing - do you have any idea how ridiculous a suggestion that is, why doesn't Alonso powerslide round the Grand Hotel Harpin?

Please don't say because he has TC

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Doesn't look too tight to be able to set a car to get round, looks no tighter than the Mallory Harpin to me. Just typical racing teams whinging because they don't get a beautifully smooth constant radius slightly cambered wide corner with a few miles of tarmac run off.

@Jamexing - do you have any idea how ridiculous a suggestion that is, why doesn't Alonso powerslide round the Grand Hotel Harpin?

Please don't say because he has TC

Digital steering isnt ideal for drifting :P

Quote from Jamexing :

SIX BLOODY LANES and they STILL can't take it? Geez, I can turn a mid sized SUV around that with 2/3rds the width!

The sad truth is that circuit racing and rallying are such polar opposites when it comes to driving skill. In rallying it's more like 80% car control and 20% line, and immense car control by itself is necessary to run really good lines in itself. Not to mention the need to adapt to changing surfaces. Circuit racing is the exact opposite, more about memorizing lines, brake and turn in points.

A bit of controlled powerdrift and they're already complaining? Ridiculous. If they really don't have that kind of technique, some extra steering lock would have done it, though it's not as fast as a well controlled powerdrift as it rotates the car more quickly and gets it on the fast out line earlier.

No, it's not the circuit that's the joke. It's either the drivers or the cars.

You seem to know so much about what these `muppets` of drivers are doing wrong, why the hell are you not there racing with them

The problem is they don't have enough steering lock, so how can they give themselves extra? They are using the power to get the back end out but the point is as you can see from the second car in that picture is there's not enough space.

There is a limit to how much space is needed to turn any car, no matter how much power you use to provoke a slide. Even a road car with it's huge steering lock compared to racing cars can't always do a nice U turn, hence the whole idea behind a 3 point turn.

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Doesn't look too tight to be able to set a car to get round, looks no tighter than the Mallory Harpin to me. Just typical racing teams whinging because they don't get a beautifully smooth constant radius slightly cambered wide corner with a few miles of tarmac run off.

having talk to 2 of the drivers and a team manager today the car just cant make it round safely. they can just about make it if they take a perfect line. not much lock on those cars.

A joke? that looks aweomsee!!!!!!!! F*** I cant wait to watch it on TV .


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Haha, it looks like that section is built over bridge!

Maybe the cars could reverse the other straight to a wider place to turn the cars

Handbrake