I have a question about LFS. Currently, I get lag everytime a skin is downloaded. Maybe, the skins that you need should be downloaded during the "connect" process, and use Zlib compression on the way? I don't know whether to put this in the improvement suggestions or not. I currently don't know how the skins are compressed (besides jpeg). And, if jpegs are already compressed then further compression wouldn't do much? Just a thought.

i have removed your cheap avatar.

Quote from Victor :

i have removed your cheap avatar.

i knew that would happen

but on topic, id even like to have the option to deactive skin downloads.

....theres already an option in Options>Misc

adding compression wouldn't have a good effect on the lag because extra cpu time will be needed, which could even make the lag worse. You can also disable downloading of skins.

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Quote from Victor :

i have removed your cheap avatar.

Considering there are 12-13 yearolds visiting the forum there are quite a few avatars that should be weeded out imho.
On topic: If LFS downloaded skins while connecting, then nobody would be able to leave/join the server during that time which would be quite annoying. I always stay in spectator mode while the skins are downloaded so even if you do lag it doesn't really matter.

Quote from K.David :

Considering there are 12-13 yearolds visiting the forum there are quite a few avatars that should be weeded out imho.

Why? Go out to the beach and you see women in bathing suits. Its not like I put porn in my avatar. 12-13 year olds could turn on the TV and see a woman in a bikini on a news channel... ROFL

Do you see women in bikini's wiggle their breasts on the beach like that?

Quote from Victor :

Do you see women in bikini's wiggle their breasts on the beach like that?

Yes.

Quote from wheel4hummer :

Yes.

24/7?

Quote from wheel4hummer :

Why? Go out to the beach and you see women in bathing suits. Its not like I put porn in my avatar. 12-13 year olds could turn on the TV and see a woman in a bikini on a news channel... ROFL

Whoop-dee-doo. That doesn't change the fact that this is a forum that people visit from work and it makes them look like a bunch of perverts.

EDIT: Just a bit more on the off-topic thing, I have no problem with people appreciating women's beauty in their avatar, but why focus on a certain body-part that women are sensitive about showing? That's not appreciating women's beauty anymore, that's just being a pervert.

Quote from Jakg :

....theres already an option in Options>Misc

heh, never saw that. and i dbl checked everything. dang.

Quote from axus :

That's not appreciating women's beauty anymore, that's just being a pervert.

I'm not a pervert, I'm just a 15 yr old.

where does pit girls come into women, uh, jiggling their breast? (March Avatar)

The point is, if my Computer App teacher saw your avatar while I was browsing LFS, I doubt I would be able to use the forum for much longer .

Shouldn't be browsing the forum during school

Hope this ones upto standards.

Quote from Dennisjr13 :

The point is, if my Computer App teacher saw your avatar while I was browsing LFS, I doubt I would be able to use the forum for much longer .

same here. Most sites are blocked on my school's computers but not LFS sites!

Indeed, I think we should all be forced to use futurama avatars.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Indeed, I think we should all be forced to use futurama avatars.

Listen to this man.

Bow down and shine my un-shinable shoes!

to get back to the initial topic

skins are in jpeg format which is already compressed as much as possible ... any zipping raring whatevering wont gain you more than a few odd bytes that you lose again in header and sideband info

Quote from Shotglass :

to get back to the initial topic

skins are in jpeg format which is already compressed as much as possible ... any zipping raring whatevering wont gain you more than a few odd bytes that you lose again in header and sideband info

I meant if LFSW took all the skins you need to download, and then dump them inside of one file. I tested this out using skins from my skins_x directory.

20 skins jpg compression only -- 1.63MB
20 skins jpg + bz2 -- 1.56MB (-70KB, -0.25 seconds@2mbps, -1 seconds@500kbps)
20 skins jpg + LZMA -- 1.52MB (-110KB, -0.44 seconds@2mbps, -1.76 seconds @500kbps)

Basically, you could save up to 2 seconds by using compression! I'll try more formats later.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Bow down and shine my un-shinable shoes!

Bite my shiney metal ass!

Quote from wheel4hummer :

I meant if LFSW took all the skins you need to download, and then dump them inside of one file. I tested this out using skins from my skins_x directory.

20 skins jpg compression only -- 1.63MB
20 skins jpg + bz2 -- 1.56MB (-70KB, -0.25 seconds@2mbps, -1 seconds@500kbps)
20 skins jpg + LZMA -- 1.52MB (-110KB, -0.44 seconds@2mbps, -1.76 seconds @500kbps)

Basically, you could save up to 2 seconds by using compression! I'll try more formats later.

Yes, but you fail to realize, that in the process of being on a server with people, changing cars and shit, you'll need a new package very often. It makes more sense to do them seperately.