LFS Forum - where did the test patch forum go ?

#1 - Flycantbird

where did the test patch forum go ?

Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:05

Just curious - was it pulled for a reason, or am I missing something ?

#2 - col

Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:07

too many feature requests being posted and discussed

#3 - Glenn67

Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:14

Quote from col :too many feature requests being posted and discussed

As normal

seems alot of LFSer's just can't help themselves

#4 - MAGGOT

Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:22

I believe it appears when it needs to appear (when a new test patch is released) and is then moved into hiding to keep people from asking for new stuff.

#5 - Bob Smith

Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:37

It didn't go anywhere really, it's still here, only it's hidden from view (in the main forum tree) and completely closed from posting by anyone (unlike a closed thread, which doesn't affect mods).

#6 - SlamDunk

Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:42

It will be re-opened when the next test version is ready for release.

Some of you guys need to learn and respect the First Post and do as it says. No feature requests etc. in the Patch Test forum.

Read the first post and respect it. It's very simple

#7 - ste_

Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:53

Yeah, i don't blame Scawen for closing it off for the time being. People don't seem to be able to read the first post and follow its instructions, or can't be bothered to read what's already been posted before jumping in with their post.

#8 - SamH

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:44

Okay so definitely a lot of people weren't following the path of enlightenment, and were posting bug reports that'd already been noted, but more than anything I gather Scawen just has enough bug reports to be going on with.

The patch thread was definitely getting unruly, but rather than waste time cleaning it up (which Scawen does himself.. the mods leave the test forum alone, mostly) that time can be better spent actually splatting the bugs

#9 - XenoWolf

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:59

Alright, so what happens if people have legitimate concerns and bug reports?

#10 - wien

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:06

Quote from XenoWolf :Alright, so what happens if people have legitimate concerns and bug reports?

They wait until the next test patch is released, see if the problem has been fixed and if it's not, notify Scawen in the new thread. Simple really.

#11 - Woz

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:11

Quote from XenoWolf :Alright, so what happens if people have legitimate concerns and bug reports?

Wait for the next test patch. Chances are that your concerns will already have been posted by someone else.

#12 - Jimmy_Lemon

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:11

http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=66

O.o

#13 - Breizh

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:22

Why doesn't someone with mod powers filter those threads to help out Scawen?

#14 - Scawen

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:19

No, it would be a full time job - what was it, 12 pages in 48 hours? And I'm not asking any moderator to do that, specially as I should be the judge of whether something is relevant or not to "my" test patch. Mods do sometimes clean out what is blatantly off topic in there. Our mods are not paid you know, they are volunteers and I don't intend to make their life a misery - they are constantly trying to stay sane while wading through spam around here - some people are maybe a bit too young and excitable to think before they write.

It can get a bit annoying when it just gets repetitive in there but for a while, the thread was useful. Eventually when there is 10 times more spam than useful content, it's not worth my while reading the thread, i.e. it doesn't help, and the test patch forum's sole purpose is to help me get rid of bugs. So it was time to close it, and I guess the same thing will happen again and again - the more spam, the quicker the forum will close.

Anyway for interest you may like to see my list of bug reports from the forum, I look forward to getting stuck into this lot!

#15 - Burnzoire

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:23

great stuff scawen, and good luck!

#16 - Breizh

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:31

Yep Scawen, I know and agree with all that, except with that moderating is an annoying task.. I know what you mean by it, but I don't think it's right. Doing your best at something is all that's required for a clear conscience.. Why would you burden your conscience with something someone else did? Any time you spend time thinking about something else than what you want, is an amount of time not spent thinking of what you do want, and getting closer to it.
The only annoyance I would know would be not having clear rules to follow. Not being in your head to know your opinion on any given post doesn't leave many posts to moderate, but in that last thread, a fair number of them were obviously off topic.
Just moving all the posts devoid of bug reports or particularly pertinent suggestions to a separate thread wouldn't be either annoying or complicated; except for you, obviously, if it was done wrong.

It certainly would have helped at least a little, in this case.
Good luck with all that work..

#17 - Vykos69

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:32

Quote from Burnzoire :great stuff scawen, and good luck!

And thank you, for delivering the perfect example for spam and why test patch forum got closed

#18 - Linsen

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:15

Quote from Vykos69 :And thank you, for delivering the perfect example for spam and why test patch forum got closed

You know that's not true, Vykos. The test patch forum was certainly not closed because of the occasional "thank you"-post. It was closed because there were endless discussions and requests about handbrakes, handicaps, car-resetting and whatnot.

#19 - GeForz

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:24

I would suggest a simple "this is a TEST PATCH THREAD - do you really want to post" popup before posting in the testpatch board

And of course it was not closed because of the "thank you"-posts, but they do bloat the thread unnessecarily*.

*spelling sucks

#20 - narcis

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:26

Quote from Scawen :...

leagues request : include handicaps to hotlaps header
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=392563#post392563

...

Reading this post I have seen that it could be possible also for the online times script (there are some leagues that uses also the online times as inscription ones).

Good work

.

#21 - Live For Kill

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:00

Quote from Bob Smith :It didn't go anywhere really, it's still here, only it's hidden from view (in the main forum tree) and completely closed from posting by anyone (unlike a closed thread, which doesn't affect mods).

ok, but they at least should let us download the newer versions. and what happened with the S1???

#22 - Scawen

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:12

The download link is there is you want to try W9, just follow Bob Smith's link.

What happened to S1? I don't know, what do you think happened to it?

S1 is improved, it now allows as many racers online as S2. There probably aren't many S1 W9 hosts up now but there definitely will be when we get to patch X.

#23 - Glenn67

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:14

Quote from Live For Kill :what happened with the S1???

Nothing

it is still there its just no one is on S1 in W9 at the moment.

Not many on anywhere in W9 at the moment

Whoa just when I thought there was no moderators around LOL Scawen is lurking and strikes fast

#24 - Live For Kill

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:25

Quote from Scawen :
What happened to S1? I don't know, what do you think happened to it?

S1 is improved, it now allows as many racers online as S2. There probably aren't many S1 W9 hosts up now but there definitely will be when we get to patch X.

there are about 1 (working) server, and about 0 player, all time when im on... it was extremely problem, when there were no server for the S1, because somehow the hosters (dedi and ingame) not really working (not responding for all the time, so no one could join). so the S1 players, lost, disappeared, died like the dinosaurs, etc...

#25 - FOGlegsy

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:29

any reason why a few couldnt unlock W9? i had to unlock before applying the W9 patch