well had LFS about 2 months or longer and i still getting no were all i do it strugly around corner even though i do like the car in front and he get round soo easy and mine just not doing it.

I see people break and slow down 4 corners mine just slinds even when i slowly put pressure on break and chicans i cant get how people get around them soo easy. =( point is i ain haven fun soo i may deside just to quit and pass my acount on to some one still thinking maby i can become gd but why i am going i dout it. Maby my G25 sets ain right or the ones in LFS options plz help before i deside to just give up

ty Austin

It takes a while to get fast..... I've been playing for well over 2 yrs now and I still suck! If you give up you surely wont get any better.

If you would take the time to post that in English, then we would be more than happy to help.

Don't give up so easily. In a situation like this, you had best take a break from LFS. Just a few days, or a week or so. Then when you play again you will feel refreshed, and you will have more confidence. You might even get faster. I know it sounds weird, taking a break to get faster, but it works, and it may be just what you need.

I did manage to make out some of that wall of text, your problem is sliding into corners? Try braking earlier, brake hard at first and as you slow down, ease off the brakes to prevent wheel lockup into the corner (if you are using a car with downforce) and take it easy through the corner. Don't accelarate too hard too early with RWD and even FWD and AWD cars, it can easily cause you to slide or spin out.

becz like aston nation t1 peopel somehow break and still doing 108 i drop down to like 94 if i do any higer i just slidee off =( somthing just pulls them back in i dont know how they do it

and i have like 4 force strenght and makes harder round corners but with out i fly off 2

do you race in real life? i was playing sim racers for years, and i would drive my front wheel drive econobox cars like a madman in real life, but it wasn't till i got a sporty rear wheel drive car when i finally started to be able to throw the rear wheel drive cars around in the games. i guess i didn't completely suck with the front wheel drive cars, but i find it realllly helps to have some frame of reference to real life. that and my friends give me hints on braking, weight transfer and what not. stuff to think about.

for instance, you get better braking if you start soft and then apply more pressure. and when turning you can control the weight transfer. start your turns subtly, and as the weight shifts to your outside wheel you'll get better grip when you crank the steering wheel going thru the meat of the turn.

i'm no expert, but these tips have helped me improve immensely. also, since you have the G25, if you heel toe and get the engine compression helping your braking you can decrease your braking distances, brake later, and slow down to the necessary speed before turning in.

lol, i gave the opposite braking advice as headbanger. i will say when you're turning you want little to no braking going on.

Please post in English, don't use text speek. It's hard to understand ( I have no idea what in the hell that last sentence means. "like 4 force strenght?"

Anyways.. go slower. Don't try to copy the cars around you. Practice on your own, offline, take it easy and feel out the car. Learn how the car drives. All you can do is practice.

I've been playing this sim since before S1 was even a purchasable option, and I still suck at most cars and tracks, and I'm nowhere near any WRs. The best thing you can learn is how to keep the car on the track, not slide everywhere and not crash. Then learn how to drive with other cars around you; then you can learn to drive faster.

how u meant to heel toe the break is kinda and to push down

not sure what you just said, but i meant when yer braking, brake with your toe, and blip the gas with your heel when you down shift, and downshift to the appropriate gear as your car slows down. really tho, if you're having trouble sliding off the road, i would just hot lap on a familiar course and try to maintain control. heel toe will help you be faster, but if you're having trouble being in control, trying to heel toe could just backfire and frustrate you further.

well i tryed that before but i cant really get my toe to reach there and do and both at same time i using bear feet and it kinda hurts ^^

i suggest socks. it's not the most comfortable operation, but it's easier on the g25 than it is in my car with the steering column limiting my leg's movement.

really tho i think just braking to the appropriate speed and using smooth steering inputs is more important to get on top of before you add heel toe into the mix. like others said, don't worry about what other people are doing. get yourself under control, and then work on getting faster.

Quote from Austin31287 :

well i tryed that before but i cant really get my toe to reach there and do and both at same time i using bear feet and it kinda hurts ^^

If you can't make it around the corner, heel-toeing correctly is hardly the most pressing issue.

Like others have said. Go slower, brake earlier, look where you're going not where you are, and most importantly; be smooth in every input. No sudden movements on either steering or pedals as that upsets the balance of the car and makes is harder to keep under control.

Finally of course, practice, practice and practice some more. No other way to do it.

One thing I would concentrate on is exit speed: try getting through a corner as smoothly as you can and don't try and enter a corner too fast. It's a mistake I used to make all the time, thinking a high entry speed was vital. It's not. Try to brake early and not too hard, enter the corner smoothly and put the throttle back on gradually - don't stomp the pedal and don't it until you know you're not going to break traction when you do. Slow in, fast out, as they say.

And if you think this game's frustrating to learn, try Grand Prix Legends ...

If you can't heel-toe, just try using auto clutch for now and use your left foot for braking. Once you're comfortable, then try heel-toe again.

I'd suggest putting in a spacer plate in you brake pedal, too. The factory setup leaves the brake pedal too far back and too far from the gas pedal. Once I get around to it, I'm going to fasion up a metal plate that will move the brake pedal closer to the gas pedal, and use some spacers to move it up. It will be more realistic and easier to use for heel-toe.

yeah forget about heel toeing for now. i mentioned it as a technique that can help you get faster, but you must be under control and comfortable driving without it. if you're already making mistakes that cause you to skid off the road, then trying to perfect heel toeing while you're trying to nail down your racing line will likely be counterproductive.

i was thinking, and i have a guess at what's going on. you are using the cars in front of you as guides for braking. my guess is that when you see them brake, you start your braking in a panic, and slam on the brakes. this causes you to skid, and you're not going slow enough by the time you have to turn. so likely you are still braking with locked brakes when you begin turning, and this will surely send you flying off the road. be gentle on your brakes.

i think the best thing you can do is not to stress about how good you are, and just start hot lapping in a car you enjoy on a track you enjoy. if you're in the middle of a race, if you're at all like me, you start making more mistakes cause the pressure's on to go as fast as humanly possible. so take a break from that. pick your favorite car and track, and drive that combo a ton. i would suggest the lotus kit car on the demo track. the lotus is zippy, turns quickly, and brakes super quick. try to drive fast, but don't overdo it.

just enjoy the drive!

once you've got an idea of the capabilities of your car, and are getting fairly consistent lines, you can start trying to improve that, take it on other tracks, and take it online. then when you watch people, you can see what the differences in your styles are, and that will hopefully mean more to you at that point.

also check out guides on racing techniques from actual race sites. i find they impart a little more insight than most videogame resources tend to. tho i haven't looked at lfs's guide, if there is one.

here check this out:

http://www.nasaproracing.com/hpde/theline.html

more links at the bottom of that page

What about tweaking with the brake settings?

Are you using the car setups that ship with LFS? If so: Get better setups.

Otherwise: Keep practising. I've been here over two years and I still can't take corners as fast as the really fast guys. Also bear in mind Aston National / GTR is probably the most popular combo in the sim, and the guys on those servers will have thousands of laps of practice - it will be very hard to match their pace if you've only driven LFS for a couple of months.

I have a year with lfs S2 and... I'm really slow, I'm last or almost last in almost every server I go! ... Nah not that bad, Middle pack racer, sometimes I feel bad, my problem is that I need a lot of laps so I can manage to be fast... Weird.

The key to fast driving is smoothness. Don't throw the car into corners, and know that you control the car, not the other way around.

Quote from braincore02 :

the steering column limiting my leg's movement.

Try moving your foot higher on the break pedal. That realy helped me, specially when trying to heel toe in my miata.

Quote from legoflamb :

Try moving your foot higher on the break pedal. That realy helped me, specially when trying to heel toe in my miata.

lol that's the car that's giving me trouble. i'll try that thanx

It's not the winning that counts, it's the taking part!

IMHO the most important tip is: drive slowly. Allbeit I play LfS for years now, I am still not a very speedy driver. Still I manage to be on the podium on some races, or at least among the upper half of the drivers field, because I simply hardly ever crash (except someone rearends me in T1 ^^).
So what I'm trying to say is: it doesn't matter if you're not the quickest. Just brake gently and early. Most of the people who drive at alien speeds usually spin out after a lap or two, so that's your chance to succeed

The SLOWER you go, the FASTER you go.
Do NOT try to emulate what people do, do it SOFTER. With time (a week?) You'll be going around 3-4 secs behind the pace of the lead car - enough for the midfield places.

Trick?
To learn a new track, brake at the 125m marker of all tracks, HARD. Brake to 100kph(60mph). Do the turn. If the tires dont complain, next time, do it a tad faster. If you go straight ahead, slow down even more.

Oh - and in case you've never driven anything before, to make the usual fast turn, you only have to rotate the wheel around 90degrees MAXIMUM. More than that, and unless its a hairpin, your inducing a spin on purpose.