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Quote from Aquilifer :The funny part is when you start to translate some of them....

freely translated...

Juha Kankkunen... John Hangover
Mikko Hirvonen... Michael Little Moose
...
The -nen ending can often be translated as the German -chen i.e. bit like small/little something or just a 'soft' version. For example Kankkunen -> Katerchen(ger)/Hangover(eng).


And:

(Heikki) Kovalainen = Hardman

LOL Deggis! :P
haha.. how does he explain the dents on the door xD
For some reason I find this really hilarious:

Quote :"Aina roiskuu kun rapataan."
Translation: "There will always be splatter when mortar is spread."
Notes: Mishaps happen when you work, it is in the nature of things.
English equivalent: "Shit happens."

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Finnish_proverbs

Btw, a few years ago I had two teachers named "Viinamäki" (viina=liquor, alcohol; mäki=hill) and "Laattala" (Laatta="a tile" but it generally means a throw-up). Somehow the two names just belong in the same sentence. "Illalla Viinamäki, aamulla Laattala"

Right, I know this thread is about bad things, but has anyone mentioned that finnish is actually the easiest language in Europe, at least in theory?
Quote from hyntty :Right, I know this thread is about bad things, but has anyone mentioned that finnish is actually the easiest language in Europe, at least in theory?

I have always thought it was the exact opposite? In finnish words take numerous different forms depending on the situation, much more of those than most other languages. Also to add the difficulty the finnish is quite different from other European languages like english, german, swedish and the list goes on. The only really close languages are hungarian and estonian languages.
Quote from hyntty :Right, I know this thread is about bad things, but has anyone mentioned that finnish is actually the easiest language in Europe, at least in theory?

How come in theory? In practice it's one of the most hardest languages in the world because of the unsuaul grammar, after China, Korean, Japanese and Arabic.

I have no scientific proof to backup this but check if Google finds something reliable studies on this subject...

http://www.google.fi/search?hl ... guages%20in%20the%20world
Quote from deggis :How come in theory? In practice it's one of the most hardest languages in the world because of the unsuaul grammar, after China, Korean, Japanese and Arabic.

I have no scientific proof to backup this but check if Google finds something reliable studies on this subject...

http://www.google.fi/search?hl ... guages%20in%20the%20world

Aah.. It's the easiest considering phonetics, since every speech sound has its own symbol. Most of the words are pronounced as they are written and the stress is always on the first syllable.
Difficult without a doubt. First it's not based on Latin in any way I can see, unlike most European languages. Worst of all, when I have painstakingly worked out something to say my wife will tell me "You should have said ~~~ssa or ~~lla or ~~sta", or any one of a hundred affixes rather than the one I settled for! Aaaaagh!
Quote from Doorman :Difficult without a doubt. First it's not based on Latin in any way I can see, unlike most European languages. Worst of all, when I have painstakingly worked out something to say my wife will tell me "You should have said ~~~ssa or ~~lla or ~~sta", or any one of a hundred affixes rather than the one I settled for! Aaaaagh!

It is very same with English, at, on, in, etc. are perfectly mystery sometimes

in = ssa, ssä (sisässä)
on = lla, llä (päällä)
at = kin (jollakin, jossakin)

Of course now comes the trouble, Man was in the house = Mies oli talon sisällä (llä, wtf?) so you need to take time and learn every bit so that you can speak even remotely right

So in our language there are rules, but then also exceptions to rule, which we have many, I think almost as much as rules if not more and that is of course thing that is hard.
Quote from JTbo :
Of course now comes the trouble, Man was in the house = Mies oli talon sisällä (llä, wtf?) so you need to take time and learn every bit so that you can speak even remotely right

Eh? Perfect Finnish, what are you on about? Talon sisässä/sisällä, the same thing. "Sisällä talossa" might sound better though, but the shortest version would be "mies oli talossa" and I think that if something can make people used to articles a bit confused.
Quote from Blackout :Eh? Perfect Finnish, what are you on about? Talon sisässä/sisällä, the same thing. "Sisällä talossa" might sound better though, but the shortest version would be "mies oli talossa" and I think that if something can make people used to articles a bit confused.

in/on thing, that is what I meant. on would be most likely top of house or something like that, but as I said such things are confusing and I tend just to leave them out, non important bits anyway, does not affect to top speed
Quote from frokki :...

wow except for the stealing bit its remarkably similar to germany in the aspects you mentioned

Quote from hyntty :Right, I know this thread is about bad things, but has anyone mentioned that finnish is actually the easiest language in Europe, at least in theory?

how exactly are 16 cases which (feel free to correct me on this) are mostly a substitute for (simpler and always regular) prepositions easy ?

Quote from deggis :How come in theory? In practice it's one of the most hardest languages in the world because of the unsuaul grammar, after China, Korean, Japanese and Arabic.

arent chinese and japanese dead easy at least in term of grammar due to their inability to write down any word modifiers ?

Quote from hyntty :Aah.. It's the easiest considering phonetics, since every speech sound has its own symbol. Most of the words are pronounced as they are written and the stress is always on the first syllable.

except for the stress the same pretty much applies to german spanish and japanese (written with latin characters)
Hmmm... aja hiljaa sillalla.
Portuguese is also pronounced as it's written IMO.
Quote from Gil07 :Portuguese is also pronounced as it's written IMO.

Raoul Duke: You're not Portuguese, man!



...when it's written português?
Quote from Shotglass :

how exactly are 16 cases which (feel free to correct me on this) are mostly a substitute for (simpler and always regular) prepositions easy ?

That's not exactly true, is it? First of all there are only 15 cases, but that's not important. I don't think prepositions are easier, because for example in english there are so much exceptions and you never know which preposition to use.

Besides, you were German were't you. Since our languages are so similar I'd expect you to understand how simple it is to conjugate words.

Quote :
except for the stress the same pretty much applies to german spanish and japanese (written with latin characters)

The point was that every letter corresponds to a specific speech sound (and in finnish there are only two exceptions). German isn't like this. I'm not entirely sure about those other languages.
Teenagers are also very annoying.

So today at shop I did saw some teenager to buy NFS pro street, 49 euros that was. Then I yelled him to come over and told him about Live for speed, he said that he will download and test. Now I could say it to him before he bought and told him how much better LFS is, but I did not as he was teenager

Hmm, or was it just us old grumpy mens that were annoying
Jeesus Cristus! What have I started?
Quote from Doorman :Jeesus Cristus! What have I started?

What you see here is just tip of iceberg, welcome to Finland, muahhahha, MUAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAAA :tempted:

Worse thing about Finland?
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