Hey All,

Got myself a cheap Saitek R440 on eBay the other day, plugged it all in last night to test it out and geeeeeeeze...This force feedback is going to take a little getting used to!

(R440 Seems like a good wheel by the way from first impressions)

I probably need to have a play around with the settings, currently about 80% in windows control panel, and 100 in LFS...I think I need to lower the LFS setting and raise the CP setting?!

Either way I think it's going to take a few weeks before I'm lapping the same as my old wheel!!

Rob

The R440 force is a good starting wheel, but there are a number of flaws with it, even in the later revisions

When I had mine I personally I kept the CP about 100%, disable auto centreing, etc., and then adjusted within LFS, whilst doing a few laps of a track, using the < and > keys to get a level that I was comfortable with. You should find that the feel is more reasonable and easier to get to grips with.

That said, it's still like feeling the arse of a car through your hands some times

Quote from the_angry_angel :

When I had mine I personally I kept the CP about 100%, disable auto centreing, etc., and then adjusted within LFS, whilst doing a few laps of a track, using the < and > keys to get a level that I was comfortable with. You should find that the feel is more reasonable and easier to get to grips with.

Thanks for that

I shall have another play and use what you have said as a starting point! I didn't realise you could use < and > either so that will save time

Rob

Quote from the_angry_angel :

When I had mine I personally I kept the CP about 100%, disable auto centreing, etc...

Sorry to double post...

Hey Angry Angel,

I have looked everywhere looking for the option to disable auto centering...but can't find it for the life of me in windows or LFS!

At the moment when I drive, the wheel seems to auto-correct my skids! I presume if I can find the Auto-Center settings this will stop?

I am sure I just need to get used to it, but at the moment it's really frustrating as it feels the wheel has more control over the car than I do! lol!

Rob

Auto-correcting skids is supposed to happen

Auto-centering is something different, it is a faked force from the wheel itself rather than LFS. Try to flip the car by driving into some barriers and see what the wheel does. It should be completely limp and you should be able to position it however you want. If it returns to center, then auto-centering is turned on, which you should disable (can usually only be found if you install the extra wheel software (if there is any) instead of using just the default windows drivers).

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Auto-correcting skids is supposed to happen

Taxi for Beales...Lol!

I'll have another play with the settings and wheel, just need to get used to it I suppose!

Rob

I got that kind of wheel before, but then one die it just died
Be aware, the pedals can easly break, because it`s some cheap plastic pedals that will break if you brake hard while pushing your foth in any direction that ain`t forward.

And a other thing you`ll notice, it`s not very good at doing smooth turns with. It`s like a "click" system, you can`t perfectly smooth with it. Hehe, I don`t know how to discribe it, but when I got my new logitec wheel it was much more smooth, and I was able to have more accurate steering.

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Auto-correcting skids is supposed to happen

Hmm, care to explain that to me?

Quote from The Moose :

Hmm, care to explain that to me?

Due to technical reasons beyond my knowledge (something about the suspension geometry I suspect), the front wheels of a car will always point in the direction of travel, making it "auto-correct" any oversteer for instance. This also happens in LFS, but the FF motors of modern wheels are not fast enough to keep up with the forces you'd see in real life.

Well, they're not 100% auto-correcting, so letting go of the wheel is not a foolproof way to save you in LFS nor in real life, but the tendency is generally that the wheel wants to auto-correct the skid due to the suspension geometry. I'm very surprised you're asking that question...

Something I learnt from Tristan (I think), as a idiotproof way to correct a slide (Not controlled, or fast, but easy), is to press the clutch, becuase the car will sorta... balance itself out or something. Go try it in LFS, get into a slide, and just go clutch and release the wheel, and the car will do (for the most part) correct itself.

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I'm very surprised you're asking that question...

Why? I know nothing about cars and i tend to correct my skids myself. At least i thought i did, but I've never analysed what I'm doing anyway.