So small pics Taken with a cellphone?

You said there was at least one real race driver, did he give any negative comments? Tyre grip or anything like that?

What kind of setup did you use for the GTi?

Now for my review (racing's over now, so I've time - till the superbowl... ):

When I first got there and I've been told the price, I had to think long if it would be worth spending € 50 on it... I did anyway, because I thought: "When do I really get to know two well-known guys from the community, plus maybe a few members of the austrian community?" I have to say, I wasn't disappointed in any way... First, I made a little tour to look, what the expo was all about... It wasn't, what I expected: Parts for roller coasters, inflatable castles and such stuff isn't exactly what I'm interested in... When I came to the cyberseat booth, Vykos was there and wanted to explain LfS to me (I was just quiet and let him talk) and when Tristan came back from lunch, he did exactly the same... (yeah, I know, cheap copy of JJ79 :P) The whole Cyberseat-Crew was VERY friendly and involved me really... We did some "attention-runs" (like FZ 50 on BL Rally-X), which really worked most of the time (even with all the businessmen)... Of course, the FO8 was THE choice to attract the people there... In the evening, I was invited to the exhibitor's receipt, for which I can't be thankful enough... Tristan and Vykos went for a pub afterwards (at about quarter to midnight), while I went home to sleep...

When I arrived at the booth the next day, GP4Flo was already there and had his first run on the cyberseat... AndroidXP was already there also, I think, and we pretty much did the same as the day before: Getting the attention of the people, so they tested it out too... The seat itself is very much fun, it may only lack the motion for oversteer and the monitor should be moving too, but other than that, it really adds so MUCH immersion to the race, you just want to have it... Vykos left us at about 5 pm that day to get home to his family... After the expo closed for the day, Tristan, Flo, Android and me went to a restaurant called "Centimeter", and we had diner and some drinks... Flo left early to catch his train home, and the three of us got to talk till about half past eleven, then we all went home/back to the hotel...

Today, I had troubles getting to the expo in time and again, we had very much fun with the seat... With Vykos gone, Android and me now were in charge of talking to the german-speaking customers, which struggled with english... I think, people were as much interested in the seat as they were in LfS, but that might be just my imagination... I helped a bit with packing the stuff, to return at least some of the kindness they showed me, but unfortunately, I had to go...

To sum it up: It wasn't so bad spending the money, I got three fun days and a little insight about LfS (which Vykos and Tristan passed onto me, thx), and most important, I got to know some nice guys I wouldn't had the chance to meet then...

Two meters of sausage? I hope he bit it at some point and didn't just deep throat the lot. <insert other humour smiley of own choice>

Looks like it was good fun!

I thought, Tristan wanted to tell that himself...

Time for my review (you knew I was going to, so don't act all surprised!).

As mentioned already, LFS was not in the right environment to generate many sales, but the cyberseat was attracting attention from lots of people - including billionaire owners of Dubai Autodrome, an American setting up a driving school in Mexico and of course theme park operators. No actual sales of the seat, but with luck they'll get a few enquiries in a few days.

I can't say how much I enjoyed the company of Vykos, Flo, Android and bbman. It was really great to talk to them about LFS, to see Florian again (although I forgot his t-shirt and left it at the hotel), and to chat to Vykos about a huge range of topics - a really great bunch of guys. To set the record straight, I only had one or two small beers less than Jo (Vykos), could walk much better than him, and didn't have a 12 hour hangover, so he can mock all he wants!

The 2m sausage was a bit weird - very dry, and with not much other than sausage and mustard. And yes, I cut it up, if only because of the effect when it comes out, not when it goes in

Hotel was nice, and I saw a bit of Vienna on my hour walks home, so that was nice. But I wouldn't mind if it was warmer than -10 degrees C...

Shame we couldn't get Android and bbman in for free, but they turned up a bit out of the blue, so we didn't have passes for them. CrazyIce never made it it seems (unless he was just shy, pretended to be a punter and can't drive!).

We had a driver who hill climbs caterhams, and he said wow, it feels so real. A bit too little grip, and hard to drive without feeling the car through the seat, but appears to behave much like a caterham should (within the limitations of a 240 degree wheel and what have you).

I have promised to go to the Games Convention with Jo, so I can't wait. Just hope all your home life 'problems' sort themselves out without too much trouble.

And finally (long post), thanks to Scawen and Victor for the assistance, support and postcards. We have about 250 postcards left (Cyberseat kept them for future events) so 1000 is about right for this type of show. Cyberseat is, I think, hoping to exhibit at E3, and maybe a US based LFSer would like to offer his support to Cyberseat, and take the opportunity to spread the LFS word (expenses paid mostly I guess).

Hopefully ill be able to check the next one out!! Its gonna be in Atlanta right??

Glad it went well for your all. Trist, do you know if the Cyberseat implemented the new code so that the screen tilts with the car? If so, was it better or worse?

From those pictures Joe took of the plane, I guess it was bloody cold

Nice reports guys, shame I missed it.

Fordie

No, the screen doesn't move. It's kinda weird when you first try it because you have to compensate for all the movement and it's really hard to concentrate on the screen/sounds when your view is constantly being thrown around

One idea I had in the morning today, that could vastly improve the feel of the Cyberseat was to set the max G simulation to 2 instead of 1 like it is now (I think). What I mean is, that the maximum inclination you get with the seat is equal to 1G in LFS. Now with most cars we experience more than 1G in almost every corner, resulting in hitting the bumpstops of the Cyberseat all the time.
Setting that threshold to 2G would greatly smooth out the ride IMO.

They did tweak the code a bit, and it felt a little better - the hills and crests were less noticable, and bumps more so. But the seat still moves with the G's on the whole car, and not the g's (through driving or cars leaning) acting on the driver. But we discussed a few things with them, and they hope to be able to improve that, as well as creating Seat profiles so it reacts quicker in the faster cars, yet stills uses the full range in the slower ones.

Also Fordie, did you have the shorter movie from MPH? I think Hugh wants it on the website but they didn't actually download it when you hosted it.
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Some pictures added, and a 10MB movie of GP4Flo on the seat here

Aye as soon as my webspace is fixed, I am uploading it and emailing hugh.

Back from Vienna I finally had some time to take a look at the photos. I'm still sorting them and writing a small report about the fair, but here is already a sneak preview

Quote from GP4Flo :

Back from Vienna I finally had some time to take a look at the photos. I'm still sorting them and writing a small report about the fair, but here is already a sneak preview

OMG JOillepall :smash:

Oh no! Damn you Jo. Damn you to err, Frankfurt and back!!!

Ahahah

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*AndroidXP runs away frightened

He looks like a Dracula who is going to bite that litle boy

Hope you cleaned your ears Tris

hmm, is there any relationship / kinship between vykos and gene simmons???

Here are the photos.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Oh no! Damn you Jo. Damn you to err, Frankfurt and back!!!

PWND!!! :P

He really had no clue what was going on... Even our laughing didn't made him suspicious...

Quote from Vykos :

Left hear, right hear, noooo. I said right

LOL

I need fordmans Hacksaw to do a proper Job

Did you use those pedals in the Cyberseat?

ps. http://lfs.foren.4players.de/a ... 8c3a20faf09d19e835b4d9b95
Jeremy Clarkson on the left? (joke)

Quote from deggis :

Did you use those pedals in the Cyberseat?

ps. http://lfs.foren.4players.de/a ... 8c3a20faf09d19e835b4d9b95
Jeremy Clarkson on the left?

No. The guy in the White T-shirt is Hugh, Man behind Cyberseat.