i really miss the Nissan Primera days.... was the best car in the series. Use to remember in grand tourismo 2 when you bought all of the models from the old touring cars series and upgraded them and bought the paint update it gave you all of the touring cars. Always drove the nissan primera... ahh how fun

toca 2 springs to mind too.. those were the days. Still actually have it laying around somewhere.

mad

was it toca 2 with the secret tank and caddie??

Quote from v4forlife :

was it toca 2 with the secret tank and caddie??

I think it was..And the secret lava land track.

Man them were the days, the days when TOCA games were good

I believe that was Toca 1... toca 2 had those strange test track combos as secrets and that track around the loch (lake) as i right remember

either way.. both games were good.

Quote from Madman_CZ :

toca 2 had those strange test track combos as secrets and that track around the loch (lake)

And the hill climb in the alps.

Yeah, the toca games were good for there time, the only thing the sticks in my head was the HORRENDOUS snap oversteer that the cars had, driving round a fast course like Thruxton in Toca was a scary experiance LOL.

Dan,

Quote from v4forlife :

was it toca 2 with the secret tank and caddie??

The Tank and Lava track were actually in the first TOCA. Man, I played that puppy to death on my old PS1.

Edit: Oops sorry, bit of a redundant post. Didn't notice the second page there...

Me and my friend used to have tank wars at Donington, good times

i used to love the effect of the flies on the windscreen, genious that was! shame toca games have plummeted to the lowest of lows since then!

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Yeah, the toca games were good for there time, the only thing the sticks in my head was the HORRENDOUS snap oversteer that the cars had, driving round a fast course like Thruxton in Toca was a scary experiance LOL.

Dan,

Yeah LOL.. i remember Toca one had that sudden snap oversteer. At Donington the Old Hairpin corner was a evil little b******d never knew how the car was going to behave. Thruxton was also a problem as you say Danowat, you were going flat out and the suddenly OHH SNAP!!! (sorry been watching too much od the VW adverts ) and u were gone. Remember the first time i played the Toca1 championship i won it by 2 points from Plato. Such a rewarding last race at Silverstone. Toca2 tho was much improved, handling was much better and it was way more fun. Use to love the split screen mode tho now when u look back the cars are rediculously low polygon... makes me laugh!!!

ahh the days...

now codecrapsters have really messedup the toca series.. ahh what a shame

mad

Gotta see the new season tho, looks good. Only time i went to BTCC was back in 1998 at brands hatch, that was an awesome day.Still get addicted to TOCA 2 at time, team championship was fun. although you could only hear player ones car never player two's. Still hate donnington park on toca 2. car has random jumping moments

looking on the btcc.net website Tom Chilton and Jason Plato (my title favourite) have been at it recently, i think there are at least 10 possible race winners this weekend it will definately be interesting!! cant wait

Wooo James Thompson Returns to Btcc and race in Wtcc still

Quote from Madman_CZ :

I believe that was Toca 1... toca 2 had those strange test track combos as secrets and that track around the loch (lake) as i right remember

either way.. both games were good.

LOL Mad remember the good Link-up & 2player championship Days on Toca2



GT:guitarist
:lfs:

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Snetterton is too far away!!

You Brits need to realize how lucky you are.

Do you have any idea how far I have to drive to see club racing, let alone professional touring car racing?

Nothing in Britain is "too far away" from anything else..

Quote from paddy_racer :

Wooo James Thompson Returns to Btcc and race in Wtcc still



LOL Mad remember the good Link-up & 2player championship Days on Toca2



GT:guitarist
:lfs:

lol who are u? do i know u?

as i rightly remember the link up for toca2 was crap, the cars kept jumping about all over the place and as soon as you got close to within few meters of a car infront you crashed into each other and things went flying everywhere..........link up wasnt very stable. We did do the two player championship in Toca2 in which i whooped arse though muhahahaah

mad

Quote from skiingman :

You Brits need to realize how lucky you are.

Do you have any idea how far I have to drive to see club racing, let alone professional touring car racing?

Nothing in Britain is "too far away" from anything else..

i suppose you have a point.... but are things like petrol, car insurance etc etc just as expensive over there as it is over here??

lets just say the way of life in the good ol' UK is different to life in the US

I have very fond memories of TOCA's linkup, but I did used to play it over LAN. 4 of us all with force feedback wheels when they where new - and the wheel turn onscreen matched exactly the turn of the Microsoft FF wheel. Many a happy championship was won and lost over 'race weekends'...

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Do you have any idea how far I have to drive to see club racing

We're lucky to get a spectator at club events let alone a commentator. It's all a matter of scale, an American race weekend versus a Scalextric track in someones back garden... I know which i'd rather be racing in.

Quote from mr_x :

i suppose you have a point.... but are things like petrol, car insurance etc etc just as expensive over there as it is over here??

lets just say the way of life in the good ol' UK is different to life in the US

Good point there as well. I just filled up for 2.50 a gallon, which is outrageously expensive by US standards. My insurance is about 1000 dollars a year.

I'm actually flying to the USGP this year, it would be about a 1200 mile roundtrip drive for me and the airline ticket is about 200 dollars roundtrip. I'll drive to the Canadian GP as that is only about 150 miles away.

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I know ( fordie rubbing hands together ) cannot wait. I love the BTCC ( miss the night races though, they was awesome )

Maybe us Tractor boys should have LFS day out at Snettie, Tristan should be home by then LOL

Damn good plan! I'm definatly gonna go this year to the snetterton round.

Lets see how many LFSers we can get together (i'm pretty sure there's a good few of us eastern types in LFS)

Don't forget - traditional pint in the Angel Inn after! (well it's kinda traditional for me anyhow!)

Quote from Theafro :

Damn good plan! I'm definatly gonna go this year to the snetterton round.

Lets see how many LFSers we can get together (i'm pretty sure there's a good few of us eastern types in LFS)

Don't forget - traditional pint in the Angel Inn after! (well it's kinda traditional for me anyhow!)

Sounds like a date to me

Saw the racing today, OMG those SEAT's are flying and also the new MG. Vauxhall's Astra was quick, but tyres crapped out to quickly. Very exciting racing, and ITV put on a good show.

James Thompson, what about him? Leaves for a year, comes back, jumps in the new Seat and wins 2 races. Thats impressive.

All in all, good racing, loads of the traditional BTCC knocks and bumps, and very exciting.

Quote from Fordman :

Sounds like a date to me

Saw the racing today, OMG those SEAT's are flying and also the new MG. Vauxhall's Astra was quick, but tyres crapped out to quickly. Very exciting racing, and ITV put on a good show.

James Thompson, what about him? Leaves for a year, comes back, jumps in the new Seat and wins 2 races. Thats impressive.

All in all, good racing, loads of the traditional BTCC knocks and bumps, and very exciting.

i thought the races today were simply awsome!!

Thommo isnt doing all the rounds this year, and remember he has experience of the Leon from the WTCC, be interesting to see how Darren Turner will do in his place for the 4 rounds Thommo can't make it

i was impressed at the MG's finally some money in the team and they are competitive, the title this year is down to Plato, Neal and Turkington, teams will go between WSR, Halfords and Seat, and the Manufactueres.. unless VXR dont pick up the pace its gonna be Seat there aswell!

nasty accident for Matt Neal, Collard collecting him, racing incident, Collard didnt do it on purpose, Matt just hit the brakes early and caught Collard out, good to hear he's fine though!

You see this is the difference - some people like F1, others like BTCC. I watched the last two races today at Brands (brilliant circuit in long form), and I wasn't exciting or impressed. I was concerned about Matt Neal (who I remember winning privateer series back in the days when BTCC used race cars). But the standard of driving (or 'push the person in front out of the way') was pretty low. I thought Touring Cars were meant to have passing in them, but it was mostly follow the leader. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's 'wrong' to like BTCC, I just can't see the enjoyment in it...

I didn't watch BTCC last year, as front wheel drive shopping cars don't interest me much, and I'll try to watch more this year to see if this round was just a bad example. Perhaps I'm missing something. As far as I can see the highlight of the show was VBH, who can come round my house anytime...

On the plus side I flew over Snetty today and the 'Bombhole' looks are scary from the air as it does from a car. Wimped out of landing though, like the big girl I am.

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but it was mostly follow the leader.

you should be used to it, you watch F1 don't you and no im not flaming you

the first race everything was happening, no one knew where to look next!

yes you raise a point about contact, but its a contact sport! but its all fair, nudging is allowed aslong as the car thats pushing doesnt gain an advantage, people say these cars are worse than the old Super Tourers, i think they arent, the ST cars were faster, but not by much, the current spec cars arent slow at all! nothing wrong with side to side contact, its a characteristic of touring car racing! if theres a gap thats a touring car wide, most of the drivers will go for it!

personally i dont know any other race series in the world that can beat the BTCC for pure excitement!

but thats just my opinion

GP2 always give good races

Videoed the last race and spent most of the time fast forwarding. Far too dull and contact ridden they need more standard cars to keep costs down, grids high and speeds low enough to safely have dicing without contact.