Quote from tristancliffe :

You mean how tyres, especially slicks, snap back into grip? Yes, that is the biggest flaw in LFS's tyre physics. The overall grip is about right, and the way it looses grip isn't bad at all either, but the change between no-grip and grip does need to happen a bit more suddenly. Otherwise you end up with very long slides that are almost impossible to regain control from.

That's exactly what i mean. The transistion from grip -> no grip is i quess ok, but other way around no grip -> grip is just too slow.

Just few points from my own experience. My friend owns an 84' corvette, not exactly a masterpiece, but can be slid around the bends. Now i tried to slide it and the way it grips back when you ease the throttle is just very quick. Same thing i've experienced with my 170hp bmw, actually when i got it and tried to slide it i almost crashed because of what i had learned in lfs. I just countersteered too much and didn't return the wheel to center when i let go of the throttle and almost ended on the opposite lane. Just because the regain of the grip was far quicker than i expected, almost same happened with my friends supra...but i ain't no expert and won't claim to be. Just what i've experienced.

Now i dunno why the same problem has existed from the day lfs saw the light, it's been few years now and i'm actually already a bit suprised that it hasn't been fixed yet. I'm not in a rush though, but i'd hope to see it in future patch. I think if scawen would spent a day or two on track, or even at some closed place, just to slide the car he might get more clearer view of what happens...

The fact anyway stands that scawen rides a bike and has if i remember right the only rwd he has driven is a kart. Things may have changed already, i dunno, haven't much been in touch with guys on "the inside".

Anyhow, i just hope it will get better in the future, maybe it would bring me and lots others that i race different sims with back to lfs, as they dislike it for the fact that your sliding a bit too much

I don't think the corner speeds or the G's the cars can pull is the problem, it is the grip regain, it's just aint that slow. Thats why Rwd's feel so slippery, if they just could get that one right i think i could enjoy lfs again. Every time i try lfs after a long pause, i enjoy it a lot for the first hour, then i get sick of the sliding and quit the game..

I've tried different setups, but it's just a way to fool yourself if the grip regain is wrong. Just like having rust on your car and instead of fixing it properly, you just hide it under the paint and say, see doesn't look that bad....