Quote from MINIz guy :

I love the game but still think the server is buggy. Out of the 4 races I have done, I only completed 1 by not timing out.

Dont hesitate to contact [email protected] regarding your issues. They are usually very helpful

Quote from pearcy_2k7 :

So Mustang or Mazda? Is the Jetta popular? Thinking maybe FWD is the way to go on this one for the consistancy?

What cars do you like in LFS? Mustang and Mazda are two completely different cars. Both cars are popular so theres always races going on but you have to decide between a high downforce Formula car and the Mustang which is more like a BMW M3 or something like that, I found both cars alot of fun to drive. The Mustang feels like taking a powerful road car out on track. Lots of slipstreaming, you should not be afraid of racing closely and always be ready to deal with getting a little bump/nudge every now and then.

The Mazda MX-5 will be for free anyway regardless of if he gets iRacing now or next month

spyshagg I think going for all the cars and tracks might be too much. You have to consider that iRacing has after 2 years of beeing available about 20 cars and 50 tracks already or in the making. So in a couple of years when we get to 50 cars and 200 tracks it will be too much for one to enjoy them all anyway. You will want to pick you favorite cars.

Enter this Promotion Code to get 3 months for the price of 1 month: PR-JrRide

Your from Portugal so it is 12$ = €9,20 for 3 months with 3 cars and 8 tracks (15 track configurations)

€9 for 3 months I think its a great deal.

LFS monthly fee to pay for more programmers and speed up development?

It would make me coming back to LFS

Quote from rc10racer :

Been thinking of looking more into iRacing but it's goes against what i don't believe in gaming is p2p or payable content, like everything they release you have to buy which i really hate.

But why would you have to buy everything they release? There are 17 cars and 38 tracks. Surely dont need all of them. In a few years there will be 50+cars and over 100 tracks... not much point in owning everything iRacing releases.

Quote from rc10racer :

http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=h ... whichTab=licensed_history

Thank you.

7 days active numbers:



It seems around 750 on average per day. 7x750 = around 5200. But many race multiple times per week, is there a way to filter the number to drivers active per week?

Quote from ChiliFan :

How did you come up with 5501 racers overall, when the numbers add up to well over 12000? Or am I missing something here?

If somebody for example joined a Practise Session AND a Official Race, he would still be counted as only 1 active driver for that week.

Last edited by George Kuyumji, Thu, 3 Dec 2009 02:05.

These are the Active Online Racers at iRacing during last week:

Active Online
(includes unofficial sessions and series)

1938 TT
4365 Practice
2739 Qual
4064 Race
1152 Hosted Race

5501 Overall


Is there a way threw LFSWorld (?) to get comparable numbers for LFS's activity?

Last edited by George Kuyumji, Thu, 3 Dec 2009 02:05.

Dizzy how realistic are the physics?

Bump drafting is not cheating. Several Racing Series do it, in the VW Golf TDI Cup ALL CARS were bumpdrafting during the qualifying session at the Salzburgring, there are cars where its the best way to set a fast time when 2 or more teammates hook up. Its Teamwork. It doesnt necessarily have to do with Oval Racing.

Pablo, I dont know if you are THE Pablo Donoso but if you are it would be very interesting to try iRacing, you could get a 1 month subscription aswell, doesnt have to be a year. And if you plan to sign up can I PM you my email address, because if you sign up and write in the registration process that I referred you I get 10 Dollars or so.

Last edited by George Kuyumji, Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:38.

Could someone explain how it currently works to get racing with people who also shift with clutch and H-shifter? I understand I need the program In-Sim? How do I need to set this up and where can I race this then? Are there Leagues running like that? Would be nice from someone to explain how this all works.

WOW!!! I didnt knew there were Servers in LFS that mandate a clutch pedal and a H-Shifter! I always wanted that.

I dont know how many months I have been off LFS but I will reinstall it right now.

Loved that reply about the french remark gezmoor Kudos to you

Would love to see it happen but its not realistic. The races in Watkins Glen and Sears Point are always spectacular and exciting, and after them there is always talk "why not have more road courses" but for several reasons I dont see it happening.
The first two tracks that they should and would have gone too is Montreal, which always produced great NASCAR races for the Nationwide Series.

And Mexico City also had fantastic looking NASCAR races, its so much fun seeing the drivers hustling the big 750 hp cars and beeing able to do some rubbing, the skill of the driver really shines threw when its not all about the car like it is in F1.

But even though NASCAR is in Montreal and used to be in Mexico City with Nationwide and the races were awesome, Cup never followed and they have no intention. There are so many great tracks in the US besides of Mexico City, like Laguna Seca, Road America, you could easily find great tracks to fill up the NASCAR schedule with 7 or 8 road races.

But the problem is I believe on one side the schedule is already full, including All Star Race and Speedweeks you have like a 38 weeks racing schedule per year. Its extremely full already. You can hardly add any more races and to replace other races will be hard aswell as no one wants to give up his date and contracts are running. I'm not 100 percent sure on this but there is a Speedway group that owns alot of tracks in the Cup schedule, NASCAR Cup is the number one selling date for all these tracks, no one would want to give up his date.

But surely NASCAR itself, the drivers and we as fans are missing alot of great racing action of these bulls on the road courses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msMAKcqTBFY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOHXf4yVxn4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dyPOYSBRkI

btw chunkyracer Microsoft did it also with FSX regarding licensing, they officially do not support or make advertising with the add-on planes or helicopters, but they supported strongly others to do them.

I think it gets underrated what an impact real life versions of tracks would have on LFS, when the BMW F1 came out for rFactor and LFS at the same time people had the choice between driving it with crap physics on all real life versions of F1 tracks, or have good physics on fantasy tracks. Too many people choose rFactor over fantasy tracks. I know alot of current LFS users do not care whether a track is realistic or not, but for potenial customers it is very very important, its as important as realistic cars. The netcode in LFS is better, the damage model is better, the physics is better, if people could drive the F1 car in LFS on all real F1 tracks that would be a major selling point for LFS. Or the GT cars around Le Mans, there is an ocean of possibilities to improve the LFS experience, and its not car modding physics etc. its the tracks.

Quote from bbman :

If you'd have read my second post, you'd know I wasn't asking because of the content, but why you thought it would be a good idea to bring this up when the Devs CLEARLY stated NUMEROUS TIMES they won't go that way, not for a long time? Why respect their words any less than that of other people? Or do you think if you'd just ask hard enough, they'll suddenly change their mind?

Because its a topic for discussion. I wasnt in the other discussions about this which mainly were about modding physics and cars anyway - what this is not about. I dont see how this Thread forces you to participate in it if you dont have no interest. First you was kind of like why dont you discuss iRacing, then you want to make this thread end. Just stay out of it if you dont care about it.

Quote from bbman :

iRacing seems to manage fine without mods and with even less usable content than LfS... Both developers declared they would not (yet) open their game to mods, and yet I haven't seen you suggesting mods on the iRacing-forums...

Why here then?

What does this have to do with me and iRacing. Why should iRacing have add-on tracks when new content comes out in great quality every couple of weeks anyway. There are alot of things that I'm asking for in the iRacing Forums that are much better done in LFS like clutch modelling, Leagues etc. iRacing doesnt miss tracks, iRacing misses a huge bunch of other things, but what LFS is missing is real life tracks, and it could have it, as licenses and development are expensive, there is a big amount of talented people in the community, which if there work could be organised and directed into one common direction could bring the finest versions of the real life tracks out.

Quote from duke_toaster :

George's Idea has one major issue that would need answering : how would they get the licences?

Modding has always been a grey area regarding licenses, like all the real life versions of tracks for rFactor are not licensed.

Quote from aceracer :

I don't really understand how people can get bored with the content. Maybe I'm too old and slow, but I still haven't mastered any combo fully and I've been at this for 1.5 years now. Give me a car/track and 4 racers more or less my speed and I don't care where I race or how often I've done it.

So frankly, I think people just have short attention spans. I prefer to be good at 1 combo rather than crap at 15.

How many combos are you within .5 secs of the WR?

I think LFS is for dedicated racers. If you are 2 secs away from the WR and already looking for new tracks and cars maybe you're just not serious enough about it...

aceracer

P.S.: Yes I know this doesn't apply to everyone, and yes there are very very fast drivers out there who also get bored with LFS, but I would estimate that 90% is due to goldfishlike attention span with NFS tendencies

I'm not a Goldfish with NFS tendencies And I'm also not within 0,5 sec of the WR. You say like as long as somebody is not within 0,5 sec of the WR he shouldnt talk on the matter and is not a dedicated racer.
But take the BMW F1 car out on any track, Aston or Blackwood, dont you think the car is awesome, for me its the best F1 car made in any sim ever, its a blast, and everything it does seems comprehensible, when you made a mistake you know exactly what you have done wrong and if you nail a corner it feels awesome, for the first time in a commercially available Sim an F1 car feels great.

But then you take this car on like Aston and you think, yeah this track is fun, but I want to hustle the car around the streets of Monaco, the LFS tracks doesnt do the car justice. You want to take the LFS F1 car around Monaco, Spa, Suzuka, you want to take the LX4 up the hill at Brands Hatch or a multiclass car race on the Nordschleife. We are missing out on these things and there is alot more potential in LFS then we see now.

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

George has been around forever and seen his share of these threads, so I don't think he's suggesting the typical mods these threads are usually about. He has a point with mod groups like GPLEA, which produce content that is consistent with and of the same quality as the original content. Such a thing COULD be a positive addition to the LFS community (provided it's only tracks), but I don't think the devs will ever go for it, based on their past reactions.

Thanks. I would really hate to see LFS going down the rFactor route, rFactor has become the synonym for modding gone wrong. But modding can do alot of positive things for a Sim if its done in a controlled and organised fashion. I think physics or cars should not be played around with, it would be a mess, disrupt development and hardly anybody could do the cars or physics better then the devs anyway, but adding real life Tracks done properly by a dedicated and great programming Team from within the community with ties to the devs, and if its done in the right way, with the right group of people it would elevate LFS.

Last edited by George Kuyumji, Mon, 9 Mar 2009 21:35.

Last edited by George Kuyumji, Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:24.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w__Gxmt-3PQ

Look at how he goes threw Lesmo 1 and variante ascari.

Also see the 'Best Indycar' video in my sig and battles with Schumacher

I know when people read the word "mod" they think about the rFactor mod situation with thousands of mod out there one worse then the other.

But there are some modding groups (idt for rfactor or GPLEA for GPL) that can really produce excellent work that even tops the work of the professionells. That dont bring out a new version of there content every couple of weeks that dillute and make everything complicated.

What these groups like GPLEA did was kind of a "controlled modding" where quality stands over quantity.

There is alot of talent out there in the LFS community and it is wasted, think about the Nürburgring Nordschleife or Spa in rFactor, done by hugely talented enthusiasts in the community, talent that LFS has aswell, and all these tracks rFactor has LFS could have aswell, maybe in even better quality.

But the danger is allowing thousands of people and giving the tools to them to create tracks in LFS, we would have very quickly 5 different versions of Monte Carlo, 3 versions of Spa etc. LFS would be a mess like rFactor.

But what if there would be only 1 add on Team in the community. Only that one team would get unofficial support and the tools to create tracks for LFS.

That exclusive modding Team would consist of the brightest, most talented hand-picked artists from within the community, who only produce quality content for LFS, mainly tracks. There is enough talent out there to produce any type of track in the world for LFS in brilliant quality, if its done in an organized, protected and quality assuring way.

Last edited by George Kuyumji, Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:51.

Quote from evilpimp :

Yeah and Villeneuve the idiot didn't put windshield wipers when they all pit for some and he just ran into someone under caution -_-. It was still fun to watch! Spiced it up a little .

Villeneuve asked for the wipers but they just didnt have any for his car. For Villeneuve to continue to race in the rain without wipers was brave and suicidal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WinlGmqlFNU

Quote from Fischfix :

i just want to bring into another aspect:
in the nationwide race, there was almost the same happening and the guy got a 5 lap penalty for it. so why didn't Jr get one as well?

or did nascar make a mistake with the 5 lap penalty. either way this season is promising so far *g*

That penalty against Leffler in the Nationwide race was just Bull

Last edited by George Kuyumji, Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:10.

You cant block a car that is already next to you, you are also not allowed to force a car below the yellow line. Vickers took a huge risk with that move and paid for it. That was totally unnecessary early in the race to block a car that had so much momentum on him and was already next to him.

No HD for F1 in 2009. NASCAR has HD since 2005.

Guess F1 needs to catch up with technology